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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 01-25-2009 9:22 AM by Stars. 194 replies.
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PhilLondon


- Joined on 04-16-2007
- London
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Are the linktronic codes available for download? Or do you need to have a lintronic box to "learn" the codes in the first place? p.
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Weebyx



- Joined on 06-30-2008
- Denmark
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wtlc2zpx: Are the linktronic codes available for download? Or do you need to have a lintronic box to "learn" the codes in the first place? p.
The Lintronic codes are not available (as i know of), but the LinTronic box is mostly used to get the timings correct. I used it to copy alle the codes from my Denon DVD player also.
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PhilLondon


- Joined on 04-16-2007
- London
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There code databases on the net, like this one, http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/codes/ and as you've seen I was wondering if one could not automatically translate these codes into Beo5 templates. If that worked, that could be useful for more people, as not everybody has a lintronic box. p.
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Weebyx



- Joined on 06-30-2008
- Denmark
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wtlc2zpx: There code databases on the net, like this one, http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/codes/ and as you've seen I was wondering if one could not automatically translate these codes into Beo5 templates. If that worked, that could be useful for more people, as not everybody has a lintronic box. p.
I cant see the mapping directly to Beo5 codes. Perhaps Keith can decode these numbers, but i can't map them to the codes i get out of the Lintronic box. The Beo5 XML requires the timings in milliseconds of the ir-code. And these are not available on that site. /Weebyx
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Keith Saunders



- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Technical Advisor, Little Ann, Hampshire, UK
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If you have a Lintronic converter box, then you can you can use the following instructions to the Lintronic software to get the timings which can then be used to convert to a Beo5 XML file as follows:- Start the Lintronics programme and close the popup status page and if it asks you to check for updates say NO Click PRODUCTS then move down to TT455-RT-238 then across to CODELEARN shortcut and click on it. In the pink "CODELEARN" section in the top left click to add a tick to "COPY REMOTECONTROL" Now using your remote use each of the commands in turn and each time it will show the timings and on the timing diagram press the button marked HIGH/LOW which will open a window with the timings of that command. Copy the list of timings into Windows Notepad making sure you state which command it is. Do this for each command.. When you do the above, if the Lintronic software knows the code it will tell you what it is. Below is a typical example of the timing output which in this case as I am sure you have already noted is a 48 bit Panasonic command for audio. -- MSB means "Most Significant Bit" and LSB means "Least Significant Bit" -- ID1 and ID2 define the device you are transmitting too in this Panasonic 48 bit code. As this protocol uses Pulse Position Modulation which means the width of the pulses define if it is a binary "1" or "0" and a binary "1" has a low value and a binary "0" has a high value in the table below Pulse, Pause in micro-seconds 03639,01578 = 5217 ----- Start bit with a high pulse of 3639 micro seconds and transition of 1578 micro seconds 00606,00257 = 863 --- LSB of ID1 00607,01122 = 1729 00608,00257 = 865 00631,00231 = 862 00608,00256 = 864 00606,00257 = 863 00632,00232 = 864 00633,00231 = 864 00634,00231 = 865 00608,00257 = 865 00632,00232 = 864 00633,00232 = 865 00608,00257 = 865 00607,01122 = 1729 00608,00257 = 865 00607,00257 = 864 ---- MSB of ID1 00607,00257 = 864 ---- LSB of ID2 00608,00257 = 865 00631,00231 = 862 00608,00256 = 864 00607,01122 = 1729 00633,01097 = 1730 00607,00257 = 864 00608,01121 = 1729 00632,00231 = 863 00607,00257 = 864 00633,00232 = 865 00633,00231 = 864 00633,00231 = 864 00633,00232 = 865 00609,00257 = 866 00632,00231 = 863 -- MSB of ID2 00608,01121 = 1729 -- LSB of Command Code 00633,01096 = 1729 00633,00231 = 864 00608,00257 = 865 00631,01098 = 1729 00607,01121 = 1728 00607,00257 = 864 00632,00233 = 865 00631,01099 = 1730 00631,01096 = 1727 00633,00232 = 865 00633,00232 = 865 00633,00231 = 864 00608,00257 = 865 00632,00232 = 864 00633,01096 = 1729 --- MSB of Command Code 00632,65000 = 65632 --- Not part of the code So, in the above example you get the following. HEX values are to the power of 16 ID1 is 1011 1111 1111 1011 which is equal to HEX value of oxBFFB ID2 is 1111 0010 1111 1111 which is equal to HEX value of oxF2FF Command is 0011 0011 0011 1110 which is equal to HEX value of ox333E If the IR codes you wish to convert are available at sites like the one HERE in HEX Pronto codes, then they can be converted to provide the above timing list. So, in conclusion to this overview, you can learn from any remote using the Lintronics converter box or other decoding software of which there are several available and if you have Pronto codes available, then they can be converted to provide the needed timings. The only thing that the above timing list does not provide is the carrier frequency which is normally between 30 and 42 Khz except B&O. The carrier frequency only exists to limit interference and increase the range of the IR signal, so if you get limited range, then the carrier frequency is incorrect. Generally I set it to 38 Khz which is the most common value used by manufacturers.
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mr_anders_son


- Joined on 03-27-2007
- sweden
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This is so cool. I downloaded Apple codes and it works Keith, I want Sony PS2 codes or General DVD codes "ON" How shall I do this?? Can you make me a file that I can download from Beo5 forum?
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Thomas



- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Norway
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Hi All, What I'd like to know is if anyone knows about any plans to make Beo5 enable to browse my net music for example by syncing playlists or something. Now that would really make me pay up for one of these Thomas
7-40 Mk3, Beo5/Beo4, Avant32DVD, BS3K, PentaIII, BL4K, BL Active w/BL2500, Avant28CTV,Beoport, AppleTV, 2xBC6K
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Weebyx



- Joined on 06-30-2008
- Denmark
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M4SPM:I have a Panasonic PlasmaTH42-PH9 connected to a Beosystem 3, since software updates on Beosystem 3 this no longer switches on/off etc at the same time as the Beosystem 3 although it used to work fine. Is it going to be possible to write a XML file to control the switching on/off instead?
Yes, it is possible, but have you tried to talk to your dealer about this not working anymore ? Is the Serial Cable connected ? /Weebyx
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Doc


- Joined on 04-17-2007
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Dear Keith, First of all: keep up the excellent work! Do you have a file for controlling a AppleTV? Many thanks in advance. Regards, Marcel
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Doc


- Joined on 04-17-2007
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It says Apple Macbook; but can you also control your AppleTV with it? And how do you "fit it into" the ConfigTool?
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PhilLondon


- Joined on 04-16-2007
- London
- Posts 2,545

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It should really be called Apple Remote. It will control any Apple decive with a remote (iMac, MacBook, iPod video dock, Apple TV, Apple Hifi)
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bayerische


- Joined on 12-11-2007
- Helsinki, Finland
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So is the Beo5 now compatible with third-party products?? Will it work when my non b&O plasma screen is on? (Controlling third-party products)
-Andreas
BLab5, BLab5000, BLab8000, BV10, BS9000, BS3, Beo5, Beo4, BLink1000, BLink5000, BLink7000, A2, A8, Form2
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Weebyx



- Joined on 06-30-2008
- Denmark
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bayerische: So is the Beo5 now compatible with third-party products?? Will it work when my non b&O plasma screen is on? (Controlling third-party products)
Yes you can control 3rd party products directly via Beo5, i don't understand the last part of your question ? /Weebyx
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bayerische


- Joined on 12-11-2007
- Helsinki, Finland
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Normally my plasma blocks all signals from my Beo remotes. I have a old Medion plasma screen, Handan C-DVB and a Philips DVD player that I would like to get to work with the Beo5 if I was to buy one.
-Andreas
BLab5, BLab5000, BLab8000, BV10, BS9000, BS3, Beo5, Beo4, BLink1000, BLink5000, BLink7000, A2, A8, Form2
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Keith Saunders



- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Technical Advisor, Little Ann, Hampshire, UK
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There appears to be some confusion about the ability of 3rd party products to be controlled by the Beo5. The Beo5 can control ANY, yes I mean any 3rd party product which uses an Infra-red remote control. To be able to configure a third party product using the B&O Beo5 Configuration tool you need to first produce an XML file which contains all the commands and the associated infra-red codes for each product. I have produced some already which are available for download and you can read full details HERE Jacob (Weebyx) and myself have developed a product to allow the automatic production of these XML files and an announcement will be made about this in the next couple of days. With regards to the Plasma radiation issue highlight which limits or stops some IR transmissions, this is not related to the Beo5, but is a general problem for which there are several solutions. I will highlight this further in another thread. The bottomline is, if you know the infra-red codes for your product or you have a facility to capture these codes from the remote such as using the Lintronic box, then an XML file can be produced to control that product with the Beo5.
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bayerische


- Joined on 12-11-2007
- Helsinki, Finland
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Keith Saunders:With regards to the Plasma radiation issue highlight which limits or stops some IR transmissions, this is not related to the Beo5, but is a general problem for which there are several solutions. I will highlight this further in another thread.
Keith, that's another huge problem I would like to get rid off! Now I can't use my Beo with my screen on. 
-Andreas
BLab5, BLab5000, BLab8000, BV10, BS9000, BS3, Beo5, Beo4, BLink1000, BLink5000, BLink7000, A2, A8, Form2
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PhilLondon


- Joined on 04-16-2007
- London
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Keith, what is the IREsc menu in the Apple Macbook file? p,
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