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  • 02-01-2012 4:29 PM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

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    I have one in the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" category, but I look forward to this thread! Yes -  thumbs up

    He does.  I've seen it. 

    Congrats, Jacques.  Good luck.

    Mika - get it out of storage!

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  • 02-03-2012 6:31 AM In reply to

    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

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    Mika - get it out of storage!

    Unfortunately too preoccupied with SQL, PHP and jQuery...

    Also, the weather is still stuck at around -20°C, and the dry central heated inside air is full of static electricity. I avoid working with electronics in these conditions; although the semiconductors in a Beolab 5000 system aren't particularly sensitive, many of them would be hard to replace.

    Hopefully next week will be better Smile

    -mika

  • 02-03-2012 2:04 PM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

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    Rich:
    Mika - get it out of storage!

    Unfortunately too preoccupied with SQL, PHP and jQuery...

    Also, the weather is still stuck at around -20°C, and the dry central heated inside air is full of static electricity. I avoid working with electronics in these conditions; although the semiconductors in a Beolab 5000 system aren't particularly sensitive, many of them would be hard to replace.

    Hopefully next week will be better Smile

    Just some good natured ribbing on my part.

    Static electricity indoors is a big problem all winter where I live.

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  • 02-09-2012 11:22 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    Hello!

    Well I coulldn't erase the tuner footprints, even with white spirit and linseed oil.

    However, the amp works great, it really does, on a par with the Beomaster 4400! I'm soo happy! The sliders have no play and are silky smooth in their movements. No funny noises, nothing. Just beautiful music!

    Smile 

    P.S.: I prefer the old smilies by far...

    Jacques

  • 02-09-2012 11:28 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    chartz:

    Well I coulldn't erase the tuner footprints, even with white spirit and linseed oil.

     

    Give this stuff a try in six months.

     


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  • 02-09-2012 11:35 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    Well I'll be in London in April... I know what to bring back now! Big Smile

    By the way, the amp smells funny, like an old TV set. Those among you who had old 70's TV sets will understand what I mean! Not a bad smell, but the smell of old electronics. Nice!

    Such old components (nothing has been touched) shouldn't sound so good, they can't, they're not allowed to! It sounds as good as the 4400... after a full re-cap!

    Now if you'll pardon me, I have a board meeting to attend.

     

    Jacques

  • 02-09-2012 12:44 PM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    I didn't really notice 'that' smell! Maybe the thick layer of dust had absorbed all previous signs :) Have you noticed the Beogram 4000 has a smell similar to 'old electronics', but seems quite unique all the same?! Quite pungent too!

    Regards the Sound, kind of suggests the point that electrolytics can survive for decades but it all depends on many factors including frequency of use, storage, temperature etc. and a combination of these and other factors..

    Worth getting a decent ESR meter you will generally find a lot of electros remain within their original tolerance with a very low esr! I agree that those red RDE's on the whole fail the meter test!

    i have read on other forums that electros used for broadcasting, in constant use can easily be over 50 years old without any sign of aging! On a not so related issue there is still a Mercury arc rectifier providing DC power to a lift in a deep level shelter (Belsize park) in London! That must have been in near constant use since the WW2 - sorry had to sneak that in - do a Google image search to see these gorgious things working!

    BTW Hope you enjoy London, is this Business, holiday or other? If you end up anywhere near Manchester Jacques do give me a shout :)

     

    Olly.

  • 02-10-2012 3:50 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    Hi,

    I'm taking my pupils (60 of them!) to England actually! No business there whatsoever!

    Thanks for your invitation Olly! One of these days perhaps... in Manchester I only know the station, from the time when I had to go from Chester to Newcastle... back in 1989... not getting any younger eh!

    I am currently listening to my Beogram 4000 through the Beolab 5000, and the sound is indeed great. Will I ever open the thing? Hmm

    Had a look at the Belsize Park rectifier... WOW

    Jacques

  • 02-10-2012 4:34 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    Three questions:

    1) I have 235V at my plugs. The amp was set on 220V. The transformer was a bit noisy. I set it on 240V. Is it okay, knowing that the PSU is regulated?

    2) What is the use of the TEST button?

    3) The right side is warmer than the rest of the dissipators. Is it where the PSU 3055 are?

    Jacques

  • 02-10-2012 4:44 AM In reply to

    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    I'm sure 240V is a better choice than 220V.

    The TEST button is for setting the input levels. It subtracts the channels, so with a mono source you'll hear nothing when the inputs are balanced.

    I dunno about component placement, but I believe mine is the same. One side of the amp gets a lot warmer, and yes, I like the smell a lot more than those scented candles ladies like to burn Big Smile

    -mika

  • 02-10-2012 4:55 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    Shouldn't get as warm on 240V Jacques so should be fine! One thing to add to Mika is when you hit the test button, the speaker to listen to is the left one as this contains the L-R signal. Great feature but you will never get a silent signal as both channels won't be that equal even with a perfect mono source!

    PSU transistors are on the right hand side! Just be careful, the one I had, the previous owner, for reasons better known to themselves left two pins (unprotected!) in the remote socket! You can guess what happend when I felt each transistor in turn from the front Surprise

    Olly.

  • 02-10-2012 5:03 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    60 pupils you're brave Jacques :) Lucky things is all I can say! You and family always welcome mate so give me a shout if ever close! Regards the MAR's there are some good youtube videos that are worth checking out!

    Olly.

  • 02-10-2012 5:04 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    The test thing actually works! Thanks for the tip.

    Step1:
     You can guess what happened when I felt each transistor in turn from the front Surprise

    I can! Being a trained (former) electrician I get that fine...Lightning Laughing

    Step1:
     Regards the MAR's there are some good youtube videos that are worth checking out!

     

     

     

    Jacques

  • 02-10-2012 7:37 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    Here with friendly Beogram 4000... sorry, iPhone photo...

    Jacques

  • 02-10-2012 7:53 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    chartz:

    Here with friendly Beogram 4000... sorry, iPhone photo...

    Now you're just showing off!  Yes -  thumbs up

    Not sure the "tuner footprints" would be noticeable if I didn't know they were there AND I was looking for them.

    Nice desk, too.  Always wanted a rolltop in my foyer.  Hhhmmm, future home of the BM1900 that's currently in the garage?  Hmm

    Current primary listening:  SMMC20EN -> BG4002 -> BM4000 -> Beovox M70

     

  • 02-10-2012 8:26 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    No, no, not showing off at all. Embarrassed

    Don't you see something is missing?

    I really am a spoilt child, aren't I? Laughing

    Jacques

  • 02-10-2012 8:31 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    Beocord 5000?

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  • 02-10-2012 8:33 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    Rich:

    Beocord 5000?

    Works perfectly. Yours?

    Jacques

  • 02-10-2012 8:37 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    chartz:

    Rich:

    Beocord 5000?

    Works perfectly. Yours?

    Mine is sitting on the workbench third in the queue behind a project for a friend (Dark Side) and a personal Dark Side project.

    Current primary listening:  SMMC20EN -> BG4002 -> BM4000 -> Beovox M70

     

  • 02-10-2012 8:38 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    Rich:

    Mine is sitting on the workbench third in the queue behind a project for a friend (Dark Side) and a personal Dark Side project.

    Non B&O, you mean? Stick out tongue

     

    Jacques

  • 02-10-2012 8:42 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    chartz:

    Rich:

    Mine is sitting on the workbench third in the queue behind a project for a friend (Dark Side) and a personal Dark Side project.

    Non B&O, you mean? Stick out tongue

    Embarrassed

    I am refoaming a pair of Boston Acoustics T1030 speakers - 6 drivers in all - for my wife's boss.  Also replacing internal components - at a minimum the capacitors - but I'm not done with testing.  Break-in at the house last week set me back some time.

    My personal Dark Side project is TOP SECRET and shall remain so to the Beoworld at large.  Devil

    Current primary listening:  SMMC20EN -> BG4002 -> BM4000 -> Beovox M70

     

  • 02-10-2012 8:49 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    Audiokarma?

    Jacques

  • 02-10-2012 8:54 AM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    diyaudio

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  • 02-11-2012 12:30 PM In reply to

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    Re: Just bought a Beolab 5000

    Leslie, hi.

    Were you able to test the Beomaster tuner?

    I am very happy with my Beolab, but since I am a radio lover, I clearly miss something, although of course I have the other Beosystems I could use! But then I am a completist, and my next quest will have to be a pair of Beovox 5000...

    Jacques

  • 02-11-2012 4:07 PM In reply to

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    chartz:

    Leslie, hi.

    Were you able to test the Beomaster tuner?

    I am very happy with my Beolab, but since I am a radio lover, I clearly miss something, although of course I have the other Beosystems I could use! But then I am a completist, and my next quest will have to be a pair of Beovox 5000...

    No Jacques I have not sorry, have been quite busy. Will do that next week.

    Beovox 5000 you said? Hmm

    Got the Beovox 3000 as well and I'm gonna put the same feet under the cabinets as the 5000's.

    Will make pictures later from the complete 5000 set incl. my 6 pairs of Beovox cubesSmile

     

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