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  • 07-02-2010 3:34 AM

    • Sigmund
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    LED BeoVision 7-40 when?

    When will BeoVision 7-40 come with LED backlight? Any rumors?

    Or put in another way: How long can B&O continue sell a TV of the BV7 class with just a light bulb backlight? We are in 2010.

    One doubt: Does LED backlight really make a huge positive difference?

     

  • 07-02-2010 4:33 AM In reply to

    Re: LED BeoVision 7-40 when?

    Sigmund:

    One doubt: Does LED backlight really make a huge positive difference?

     

     

    Absolutely, the black level is way better, black is really black and not dark grey, also the contrast is much better. I used to have a BV 7-40 MKIII and own now a 7-55 (with led ofcourse) and the picture improvement is noticeble.

    regards

    Rob

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  • 07-02-2010 4:53 AM In reply to

    Re: LED BeoVision 7-40 when?

    Hi,

    doesn´t the new Mark V have backlight?

    http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/t/33953.aspx

    /Räuber

  • 07-02-2010 6:20 AM In reply to

    Re: LED BeoVision 7-40 when?

    Raeuber:

    Hi,

    doesn´t the new Mark V have backlight?

    http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/t/33953.aspx

    /Räuber

    Nope, MK V is a 200 Hz LCD

    BV7-40 MK IV, BL5´s, BL3´s, BL 3500, BL7-4, BS3000, BC 6-23, BV 1, BS3.

  • 07-02-2010 7:03 AM In reply to

    Re: LED BeoVision 7-40 when?

    Ehlerz:

    Raeuber:

    Hi,

    doesn´t the new Mark V have backlight?

    http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/t/33953.aspx

    /Räuber

     

    Nope, MK V is a 200 Hz LCD

     

    OK, then we have to wait for a BV7-40 with LED backlight, or better for a BV7-46 with backlight and internal harddisk (my wish for christmas!).

    /Räuber

  • 07-02-2010 9:15 AM In reply to

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    Re: LED BeoVision 7-40 when?

    Or , BV 10-55 !!!!!! and BC 2 with BluRay and music streamer !Unsure

    Frank

  • 07-02-2010 1:54 PM In reply to

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    Re: LED BeoVision 7-40 when?

    Sigmund:

    When will BeoVision 7-40 come with LED backlight? Any rumors?

    Or put in another way: How long can B&O continue sell a TV of the BV7 class with just a light bulb backlight? We are in 2010.

    One doubt: Does LED backlight really make a huge positive difference?

     

    I ask myself this question every morning when I check the specs on the BV7-40 at the B&O website to see if they have changed it yet. This is now the only thing holding me back from making my purchase. I've been leaning toward the BV10 lately as a result, but I still prefer the higher stance of the BV7 next to my BeoLab 8000 speakers and BeoSound 9000.

     

    BeoVision 7-55 3D, BeoSound 9000, BeoSound 8, BeoLab 7-6, BeoLab Penta III, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 6000, BeoLab 2, LC-1, BeoTime (analog clock), Form 1 headphones, Beo 4 remote.

     

  • 07-02-2010 3:09 PM In reply to

    Re: LED BeoVision 7-40 when?

    hi hungedu if i was in a position to get either one i personally would go for the bv7.

  • 07-02-2010 4:03 PM In reply to

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    Re: LED BeoVision 7-40 when?

    Raeuber:

    OK, then we have to wait for a BV7-40 with LED backlight...

    My guess this will be a year if the MKV has just been released. I was thinking of upgrading to the BV10-46, but then parts of this TV will be a downgrade from the BV7-40 (especially the sound).

    Mind you, comparing a BV10-46 and BV7-40 recently, which were side-by-side, I didn't notice much difference when viewing the same HD image on both TVs.

  • 07-02-2010 6:05 PM In reply to

    Re: LED BeoVision 7-40 when?

    I think the picture of the BV10 is outstanding - but the sound is poor compared to the BV7. I'd wait.

  • 07-03-2010 4:19 AM In reply to

    Re: LED BeoVision 7-40 when?

    This raises another issue in the B&O range: how can a top-of-the-line TV like BV7 be less advanced than the newer BV10, which is positionned between BV7 and BV8? I could understand why they don't upgrade the BV8, but why oh why keeping BV7 so "unchanged"? And I'm not even talking about the 32 inch version..Sad

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  • 07-03-2010 5:44 AM In reply to

    Re: LED BeoVision 7-40 when?

    @Chrisreunion   I could understand why they don't upgrade the BV8

    Why do you think that??

  • 07-03-2010 2:46 PM In reply to

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    Re: LED BeoVision 7-40 when?

    I recently had a look at the 46in Samsung 3D tv and have got to be honest i was very impressed by the quality of the 3d. Having seen Avatar in 3D at the cinema i could have left it as a technology. Then there is the mute point of paying £2000 for a 46in Samsung with LED LCD 200hz technology which i personally believe is the better technology, or £4500 on a Beovision 8-40 with standard LCD and 100hz technology! Yes the sound will be better but for £2500 i should hope it is.

     

    I believe a 42inch 7 with LED LCD in 200hz would probably make it for me, the best television in the world. A Beovision 8-40 with again LED LCD would again keep it up to date and worth the money.

     

    This is a Cider induced "i actually have a day off" rant so apologies for the spelling etc

    A Beovision 10-40 in black and red fret on order, Beo4, Beo6, many A8's, a pair of white and yellow Form 2's, Beocom 4, 28 inch Avant RF DVD, Apple TV and a wife that loves this stuff as much as i do! 

  • 08-02-2010 7:49 AM In reply to

    BeoVision 7-40" Mk V, when?

    Citat: beobrian from B & O writes:
     
    BeoVision 7-40" MK V is already available in DK, so order a BeoVision 7-40 will
    be MK V you get delivered.

    The only upgrade here is the panel that has been 200Hz and higher contrast level.
    We always change the version when major hardware changes are made, such as panel changes.

    You can not get a Direct LED 40 "panel, it does not exist, so therefore it can not yet
    established in BeoVision 7-40. So this update is because there has been a better panel
    from the subcontractor, and which so far has been spent, is now discontinued and no longer
    can be delivered. So it's just a switch so the model can continue. There'll be announced when
    there are major changes in an update.

  • 08-02-2010 8:39 AM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7-40" Mk V, when?

    i had a demo of the new sony 3d bravia the other day , amazing

    plus by pressing the 3d button the remote you make every source , games , freeview - not just 3d tv - 3d

    the tennis was on and it looked incredible

  • 08-02-2010 10:58 AM In reply to

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    If there are no 40" Direct LED Panels, then use 40" LED Edge-lit Panels

    If there are no 40" direct LED panels in existence from the manufacturer, then B&O should consider using the same edge-lit panel from the BeoVision 10-40. This will save money in production cost and give the BV7-40 the badly needed technology boost away from CCFT backlighting. B&O can even go a little further and reduce the profile of the BV7 with an updated slimmer back panel cover. I would definitely purchase that!

     

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  • 08-02-2010 12:23 PM In reply to

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    Re: If there are no 40" Direct LED Panels, then use 40" LED Edge-lit Panels

    Hungedu:

    If there are no 40" direct LED panels in existence from the manufacturer, then B&O should consider using the same edge-lit panel from the BeoVision 10-40.

    I'm sure they thought of that, but I guess that panel either doesn't fit or is regarded by B&O as not being of the quality required?

    I don't know what all the fuss about: my Jan 2010 BV7-40 has a superb panel and I've seen a side-by-side comparison against the BV10-46. You'd have to look very hard to see any difference.

    Are you sure you're not just asking for this technology for the sake of it? I can't believe the BV7-40 MKV picture quality is superseded by that of  the BV10-40.

  • 08-02-2010 1:22 PM In reply to

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    Re: LED BeoVision 7-40 when?

    chris:
    Then there is the mute point of paying £2000 for a 46in Samsung with LED LCD 200hz technology which i personally believe is the better technology, or £4500 on a Beovision 8-40 with standard LCD and 100hz technology!

    For your information (and Chris too...), the BV8 40 has been updated, there is a new panel, 200Hz refresh rate, and... 3 HDMI!

    Here are the new tech specs :
    http://www.bang-olufsen.com/specifications?productid=26 

  • 08-02-2010 2:07 PM In reply to

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    Re: If there are no 40" Direct LED Panels, then use 40" LED Edge-lit Panels

    Hungedu:
    If there are no 40" direct LED panels in existence from the manufacturer, then B&O should consider using the same edge-lit panel from the BeoVision 10-40. This will save money in production cost and give the BV7-40 the badly needed technology boost away from CCFT backlighting.

    Wow... What a "Technology boost"... From a superb picture quality to a clouded image with non uniform backlighting!
    Edge Backlighting has absolutely NO advantage on picture quality over CCFL. The only things that are better are power consumption, and thinness, and of course it's less expensive to make. And B&O has never modified the design of a TV from MkX to MkX+1, so don't expect a thinner BV7... That would be a totally new TV, like the move from BV5 to BV9.

  • 08-02-2010 2:57 PM In reply to

    Re: If there are no 40" Direct LED Panels, then use 40" LED Edge-lit Panels

    Yes mbee

    It is quite true. BV 10 is a B & O "low" price of the TV. Yes -  thumbs up

  • 08-02-2010 3:16 PM In reply to

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    Re: If there are no 40" Direct LED Panels, then use 40" LED Edge-lit Panels

    Of course, you are entitled to your opinion, and so am I.

     

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  • 08-03-2010 2:47 AM In reply to

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    Re: If there are no 40" Direct LED Panels, then use 40" LED Edge-lit Panels

    Peter Pan:
    It is quite true. BV 10 is a B & O "low" price of the TV.

    Cheaper panel doesn't mean that the company HAS to sell it at low price... One of edge lit LED advantage is thinness, and people are ready to pay for thinness... If LED panels where more expensive to produce, I think that Samsung wouldn't have made a so huge advertising campaign to outdate CCFL...
    Follow your eyes, not the marketing hype (latest LCD panels can produce outstanding contrast ratio, whatever backlighting tech is behind it, LED edge or CCFL doesn't really make a difference, it's only full LED backlighting that has a positive effect on PQ)

  • 08-03-2010 4:09 AM In reply to

    Re: If there are no 40" Direct LED Panels, then use 40" LED Edge-lit Panels

    BeoVision 7 is B & O's flagship. I had so hoped that the new LED backlight technology was
    now placed in BeoVision 7-40 "Mk V. But not this time. Sorry.

    BeoVision 7 test.

    http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1266502570

    BeoVision 10 test.

    http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1263826711

    BeoVision 8 test.

    http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1259929020

    Mvh. Peter Pan

  • 08-03-2010 7:16 AM In reply to

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    Re: LED BeoVision 7-40 when?

    mbee:

    For your information (and Chris too...), the BV8 40 has been updated, there is a new panel, 200Hz refresh rate, and... 3 HDMI!

    Here are the new tech specs :
    http://www.bang-olufsen.com/specifications?productid=26 

    BV 8-40 NOT updated YET - (it may take some time) 

    For the time beeing - incorrect specs ... 

     

  • 08-03-2010 9:02 AM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7-40" Mk V, when?

    Peter Pan:

    Citat: beobrian from B & O writes:
     
    BeoVision 7-40" MK V is already available in DK, so order a BeoVision 7-40 will
    be MK V you get delivered.

    The only upgrade here is the panel that has been 200Hz and higher contrast level.
    We always change the version when major hardware changes are made, such as panel changes.

    You can not get a Direct LED 40 "panel, it does not exist, so therefore it can not yet
    established in BeoVision 7-40. So this update is because there has been a better panel
    from the subcontractor, and which so far has been spent, is now discontinued and no longer
    can be delivered. So it's just a switch so the model can continue. There'll be announced when
    there are major changes in an update.

    Not correct.

    Unless I am misreading the specification,the Sharp LC40LE600 has full LED backlighting for only £640.

    Review is available at

    http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/tvs/sharp-aquos-le600-lc40le600e-review-49303787/

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