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  • 02-08-2009 2:58 PM

    BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    When the new BV7 - 40" mk IV arraive in april with blu ray, does any one know if it can play all new HD sound formats incl DTS Master. Will it be a profile 2,0 so its can be opdatet over internet.

    I know that it will be Full HD, 100Hz panel, but will it be 24p?

    What can you all tell me about the new BV7..........

  • 02-08-2009 4:05 PM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    Based on recent history, I don't think you want an open door for Bang & Olufsen software to find a way onto your TV!

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  • 02-08-2009 4:13 PM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    does any one know if it can play all new HD sound formats incl DTS Master.

    very good question anyone??

  • 02-09-2009 3:28 AM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    So secretSurprise

    Smile

  • 02-09-2009 3:58 AM In reply to

    • Puncher
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    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    koning:

    does any one know if it can play all new HD sound formats incl DTS Master.

    very good question anyone??

     

    No one dare comment for fear of sparking the BS3/BV7/HD audio argument again!Laughing

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  • 02-09-2009 4:00 AM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    LaughingLaughing

  • 02-09-2009 5:49 AM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    TripEnglish:

    Based on recent history, I don't think you want an open door for Bang & Olufsen software to find a way onto your TV!

    B&O have decided that future (high-end only?) BeoVision's shall be able to connect to the internet to receive S/W updates.

    DTS-HD: BS3 works fine today as long as you have a bluray player that will decode the DTS-HD signal and pass it on as multi-channel PCM. Based on the spec's I've seen they haven't included TrueHD or DTS-HD among the BS3 sound formats, so I do hope that the new internal bluray will do the decoding and pass it on as PCM to the BS3 - anything else would be embarrassing for B&O.

    Roger

  • 02-09-2009 8:47 AM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    wireless sw updates ? now that IS impressive

    this tv looks like it might be the new avant !

    popgear is grate™

  • 02-09-2009 8:53 AM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    Is still a samsung panel??!Whistle

  • 02-09-2009 9:04 AM In reply to

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    Flappo The Grate:

    wireless sw updates ? now that IS impressive

    this tv looks like it might be the new avant !

    Flappo... no one mentioned wireless... 

    The race for quality has no finish line- so technically, it's more like a death march.

  • 02-09-2009 9:05 AM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    ed7:

    Is still a samsung panel??!Whistle

    So? The Avant was a Philips-made tube!

    The race for quality has no finish line- so technically, it's more like a death march.

  • 02-09-2009 9:27 AM In reply to

    • ed7
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    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    I know i owned both types avant& bv,i was asking if b&o still using samsung panels?i thought they stopped future co-operating with samsung!!! Smile

  • 02-09-2009 10:48 AM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    Roger:

    Based on the spec's I've seen they haven't included TrueHD or DTS-HD among the BS3 sound formats, so I do hope that the new internal bluray will do the decoding and pass it on as PCM to the BS3 - anything else would be embarrassing for B&O.

    Oh god, good point. As I'm assuming the existing drive is merely a drive with a scart-type cable to the main motherboard, I seriously doubt they are going to get a chip capable of decoding the audio then passing it to the BS3, in the new Blu-ray internal drive. Surely the drive would merely be a drive mechanism update?

    Why? Well, it's a drive mechanism replacement for the existing BV7-40 MKIII (and only £400, which is 'cheap' for B&O), so there's no way you are going get True HD decoding built-in to a £400 internal player.

  • 02-09-2009 12:23 PM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    B&O are gonne kill them self if they dont start making up to date produkt Super Angry

    Im not gonna spent about 12-13.000 euro on a outdatet produkt, and i dont think im the only one Huh?

     

  • 02-09-2009 12:34 PM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    PierreR:

    B&O are gonne kill them self if they dont start making up to date produkt Super Angry

    Im not gonna spent about 12-13.000 euro on a outdatet produkt, and i dont think im the only one Huh?

     

    You are not alone. I just bought a Loewe Big Smile

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  • 02-09-2009 4:50 PM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    From what I heard they're switching to Sharp panels. I have this from what I would say is a somewhat good source.

    Meaning not always right, but more often so than wrong :-)

     

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  • 02-09-2009 4:56 PM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    That is definitely a step in the right direction ,was not impressed at all with samsung panel picture quality!!!Cool

  • 02-09-2009 7:06 PM In reply to

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    Clakke:

    PierreR:

    B&O are gonne kill them self if they dont start making up to date produkt Super Angry

    Im not gonna spent about 12-13.000 euro on a outdatet produkt, and i dont think im the only one Huh?

     

    You are not alone. I just bought a Loewe Big Smile

    B R

    Clakke

    You are definitly not alone. I just bought a BV7-40!

    Simon.

  • 02-09-2009 8:11 PM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    24p = Yes Mk III and MK IV got 24p support.

    And moxxey it´s not a scart cable between the dvd drive and the motherboard. They use computer IDE Ultra ATA cabling..

    And they are going to use Sharp panels in the new BV8-40 and the new Bv7-55, but the Bv7-40 MkIV they still use Samsung, but the new 2-4ms 120Hz Ultra Glare panel.

    Samsung are far ahead Sharp in LCD technology, so i don´t think you should be disappointed because of that..

    Regards

     

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  • 02-10-2009 3:16 AM In reply to

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    BV7 mk III does not have 24p.

    Do you know when the new 55" BV7 are arriving?

  • 02-10-2009 3:41 AM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    The dealers have they already seen this new BV7-40 MKIV

    Are the improvements huge?

  • 02-10-2009 5:57 AM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    The MKIII does have 24p, you just need the newest software update.

    From what my dealer told me, the BV7-52" was put on hold due quality issues with the 52" panel.

    Regards

    imac

     

  • 02-10-2009 7:31 AM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    Beolab:

    24p = Yes Mk III and MK IV got 24p support.

    And moxxey it´s not a scart cable between the dvd drive and the motherboard. They use computer IDE Ultra ATA cabling..

    I think you miss my point entirely. I have no idea what cable is used from the mechanism to the motherboard, but I do assume that there is no audio decoding done on the mechanism side (and that's the point). So, if they insert a Blu-ray mechanism, then this is unlikely to decode the HD audio before passing to the TV motherboard. It will have to be done by the BS3.

    Unless I'm wrong - and I hope I'll be wrong - this would mean that the internal Blu-ray drive wouldn't decode the audio to the level of, say, the Playstation 3.

  • 02-10-2009 4:19 PM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

    Beolab:

    24p = Yes Mk III and MK IV got 24p support.

    And moxxey it´s not a scart cable between the dvd drive and the motherboard. They use computer IDE Ultra ATA cabling..

    No, they simply use a ribbon cable. IDE Ultra ATA is merely a method of parallel data transfer, which doesn't mean it's similar in any way to the way the data is carried from the DVD mech to the BeoVision 7-40 chassis.

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  • 02-10-2009 6:49 PM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7 - 40" MK IV

     Moxxey i understand you perfectly, but i just hanged up on the "scart cable - sound issue" sentence you wrote.

    The dvd player is only a transport, and only read the information on the disc and then the motherbord´s onboard software and audio / video processor´s (DAC´s) decodes the picture and the soundstream.

    And yes Alex it is a ribbon data cable, but not as wide as an IDE cable.  I just wrote IDE so people here understand what sort of cable i menth, but they look the same but thinner.

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