@tim

yes, and i agree w/ your apple comments.

The 5K thing is not for the BM5 but for the BS5+BM5 combo.

We have learned a lot today about the BM5... I am sure the BS5 has a lot of surprise for us.

I am still wondering if we can have many BS5 in a system, and if it is the case, can they play different songs in each room.

I am also wondering if the BS5 tablet can be removed from the base and if you can have a "traditional" (Radio+CD) sound system AND a Besound5 in the same system.

p. 

burantek:

@tim

yes, and i agree w/ your apple comments.

burantek, you pretty much own half of B&O from reading your bio!! wow!

wtlc2zpx:

The 5K thing is not for the BM5 but for the BS5+BM5 combo.

We have learned a lot today about the BM5... I am sure the BS5 has a lot of surprise for us.

I am still wondering if we can have many BS5 in a system, and if it is the case, can they play different songs in each room.

I am also wondering if the BS5 tablet can be removed from the base and if you can have a "traditional" (Radio+CD) sound system AND a Besound5 in the same system.

p. 

True, but really if youre going to buy it, would would buy both... also, if we go ahead and buy many BS5 per BM5, we would spend a fortune!!

timhanna:

burantek:

@tim

yes, and i agree w/ your apple comments.

burantek, you pretty much own half of B&O from reading your bio!! wow!

the half that doesn't cause controversy...

burantek:

timhanna:

burantek:

@tim

yes, and i agree w/ your apple comments.

burantek, you pretty much own half of B&O from reading your bio!! wow!

the half that doesn't cause controversy...

:)

burantek:

timhanna:

burantek:

@tim

yes, and i agree w/ your apple comments.

burantek, you pretty much own half of B&O from reading your bio!! wow!

the half that doesn't cause controversy...

Amazing. I went to see my dealer today and he has less equipment than you!

hense my question in another thread will the beosound 5 work with beomedia 1 as some peope have mentioned as if beomaster 5 is a newer version it woudl be ncie if i coudl just buy part of the system and it work

 

Speculation is all well and good, but I wouldn't use it to base any decisions or opinions off. It's like saying you don't like a certain kind of music based on what people have said...

well this thread died as quickly as it started, shame i was just getting involved

I found that an interesting read...now I'll need to know if it will run on an Avant/US, and if I'll be able to get a non-HD video signal out of it.  Also a little confused about the utility of the 4 colored playlists.  Good for a stop-gap I suppose.  My imagination tells me that this is going to be the area in which the BS-5 really shines and begins to sell itself as the 'preferred' front-end for BM-5.  Can't wait to see it.

I am hoping they did not make the mistake off ignoring the 2 way remote. I do not care what is in the black box. There is no need for it to display pictures or movies, apple can do that.

 

Give me a proper 2 way remote. Give me the tablet off the base which is the only way I can see this working. If they think I but a 2nd box next to my BC2 they are mistaken.

I think this is going to be a great product, even though you're skeptical! I get the feeling B&O is on the right track... lets just hope it won't be 5000 euro, because that is pretty silly

jk1002:

I am hoping they did not make the mistake off ignoring the 2 way remote. I do not care what is in the black box. There is no need for it to display pictures or movies, apple can do that.

 

Give me a proper 2 way remote. Give me the tablet off the base which is the only way I can see this working. If they think I but a 2nd box next to my BC2 they are mistaken.

I see. But the problem with removing the tablet off the base is that in effect, it turns into a second remote!! I think this is against the b&o ideology... and if to get maximal use, we will need to do so, then you could have just as well bought any old tack to act as a media centre... thing

jk1002:

Give me a proper 2 way remote. Give me the tablet off the base which is the only way I can see this working. If they think I buy a 2nd box next to my BC2 they are mistaken.

That's EXACTLY what I'd already written 3 months ago, in another old BS5 post around here.

timhanna:

But the problem with removing the tablet off the base is that in effect, it turns into a second remote!!

True! but this is the only way to have a full 2-way control of any extensive NMusic(and NRadio) libraries just in your hands and anywhere you are in the house, because beo4 and beo5 never will do it.

In fact while listening NMusic or NRadio I only need 3 basic controls in addition to a good "search-selection" key: play, pause and volume, so Beo5/Beo4 can meantime stay aside.

>>I think this is against the b&o ideology.<<

If you read the article that I posted (link is in one of the other threads), the designer mentions that he envisioned to hold it in one hand while in the other a glas of wine. That is why he didnt want buttons and that also be why the wheel sticks out on the right side. You hold it at that with 4 fingers and operate it with the wheel using your thumb. Same way as you would be using a blackberry. Same way as I think you would be using beo 5.

Will see. 

It appears that the Beomaster 5 does NOT support Apple Lossless. This is a huge disappointment. I was under the impression that a driving force behind the Beomaster 5/Beosound 5 was to support higher quality digital sound. It seems that B&O is missing the mark with this.

Keith I know you're reading this forum, tell us something :)

We havent seen you around for some time now!

The details given in the posted document to me offer up some insight that is both very good and very bad.  Now, what we don't have are more details like this on the operation of the BS5, but what I'm seeing here gives a lot of information in a few short pages:

- Transfer of content from iTunes is not synchronized, it is simple drag and drop.  That's less than ideal.  For one thing, you're duplicating content on 2 different systems.  It's a waste of space, but I know that many folks won't really mind that.  That being said, it also means that you have to do more work if you use both the BM5 and iTunes.  You can't simply create new playlists, import content, etc in iTunes and have it all seamlessly sync to the BM5.  This sounds ridiculous given the drag and drop ability, but really there should be a sync option.  Other systems do it either via sync or simply stream from iTunes and thus offer access to all created playlists and imported content (minus the DRM stuff, of course).  True integration should let the user do the work on one system and then have to do little else to access that from another.

- I'm not familiar with the "coloured list" functionality, but its arbitrary limit of 99 tracks seems silly.   That may have to do with backwards compatibility for older B&O components, but still it's silly.  One of the benefits of digital should be to overcome stuff like this, especially on a system with a 500GB HDD.

- The lack of ALAC (Apple Lossless) support is really unforgivable.  With a large system HDD and the fact that it is designed to be connected to quality audio systems, they should welcome higher quality music files.  It's not like they were going the WMA route and ignoring Apple altogether here.  They have a Mac version of the software that is built for easy iTunes transfers as well as supporting the AAC and m4a formats.  Leaving out ALAC is just plain silly.  And oh by the way, non Apple products can and do support ALAC playback, so it's not a licensing problem.

This is kind of the reverse way that I usually dig into a product, but it does highlight limitations of the system before ever seeing the BS5.  While I have a feeling that the BS5 will still impress, these issues are problematic.  However, they are software dependent and as such, can be fixed if B&O did so choose.

Jeff 

timhanna:

Keith I know you're reading this forum, tell us something :)

We havent seen you around for some time now!

I have been in southern Italy for a couple of weeks, but I have been around...

Nice, hope you enjoyed it and didnt have a role with the Camorra :)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7635101.stm

 

Thanks Ignace for posting the Beoconnect procedures for BS5/BM5.  

I really didn't see much that was new because this is basically how it works for Beomedia 1.

Surely there is more to it than this.  However the compelling design of the Beosound 5 will be the real test of whether it is worth 5000 Euros.

I am really hopeing that B&O will ultimately support Apple lossless.  I have a 2 terabyte disk on which I am putting my entire CD collection and some LPs also.

I guess we'll have to wait to see what happens. 

Don't forget about Flac and 24bit/196khz support too or it will just become another lame pedestrian hard disk player. 

Using a BeoMaster 5 without a BeoSound 5 is like saying, "Hey, the DVD 1 plays CDs so I can skip the BeoSound 9000."

It is quite simply the most compelling product we've made since the BeoLab 5s. You will want one. Badly.

I want one right now. Very badly.

(P.S. Oddly, predictions are getting "colder" as we approach launch. And, unfortunately, there is absolutley no way of using BeoMedia 1 in any way with the BeoSound 5.) 

I agree with TripEnglish - the BeoSound 5 is really, really worth the wait. Just to add, the BeoSound 5 and BeoMedia are not comparable, and hence I would not take the information posted earlier about how to sync music as gospel.