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  • 08-16-2008 7:51 AM

    Is Beolab 2 "necessary" with Beolab 1 and 7-4?

    Hi all.

    I just bought a BV 7-40 with the 7-4 speaker (have not received it yet) and also bought Beolab 1. I am wondering now if I should also go for the subwoofer Beolab 2, but must admit I am a little bit unsure what it would do for sound with suchs speakers as the Beolab 1, and if it would be a little over the top.

    As pr now i will not use satellites either, but they probably will show up in the near future.

    Would love to hear anyones qualified thoughts on this!

    Thank you. 

     

    BV 7-55, BL 7-4, BL 9's, BL 4's, BL 3's, BC 2300, Beo5, Beo4

     

  • 08-16-2008 8:22 AM In reply to

    Re: Is Beolab 2 "necessary" with Beolab 1 and 7-4?

    The Beolab 1 actually uses the same chassis as the Beolab 9 - which does not need a sub-woofer. However the Beolab 1 is strangely lacking in real low down bass so a Beolab 2 is recommended. For music, I would say not, but for surround sound, it makes quite a difference.
  • 08-16-2008 8:31 AM In reply to

    • Dave
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    Re: Is Beolab 2 "necessary" with Beolab 1 and 7-4?

    I can't recommend the BL2 but a good sub with those speakers in that setup should really add alot to the sound.

    “Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of intelligent effort.”

    Your health and well-being comes first and fore-most.

     

     

  • 08-16-2008 9:02 AM In reply to

    Re: Is Beolab 2 "necessary" with Beolab 1 and 7-4?

    I agree, a sub is highly beneficial for movies with the Beolab 1s.

    Beovision 7-55 with Beolab 7-4, 9s and 4000s

    Beovision 10-40 with Beolab 1s and 6000s

    Beosound 1, 5, 2000, and 3000

    Beotime, Beotalk, Beocoms

  • 08-16-2008 9:06 AM In reply to

    • moxxey
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    Re: Is Beolab 2 "necessary" with Beolab 1 and 7-4?

    takktakk:

    Hi all.

    I just bought a BV 7-40 with the 7-4 speaker (have not received it yet) and also bought Beolab 1...

    Although I've now disconnected my BL2 with the 7.4/BL9 combo, I'd certainly recommend the BL2 with the combo you suggest. It will add more depth - it will with the BL9's. The problem I had is that I found the bass was too incredible in a small room, which led to complaints from the residents two stories below my apartment! That only happened since using the BL2 with the BL9's though.

    See if you can locate a second hand BL2. I was tempted to sell mine, but I'm going to hold on in case my setup changes in the future.

    The conclusion is that, with movies at least, you'll always get the benefit from installing a BL2. However, just bear in mind that in a small room, the bass can be quite intense..

  • 08-16-2008 11:02 AM In reply to

    Re: Is Beolab 2 "necessary" with Beolab 1 and 7-4?

    While this is a very subjective question, I've found very few setups that haven't benefitted from a good subwoofer. I would say yours certainly could if I were to use those same items personally. Remember that in addition to low tones, a subwoofer will add physical texture which I find indispensable in music reproduction as well as in video setups. The strike of drum or the pluck of a string doesn't sound complete unless all the appropriate senses register the event.

    Hope this helps! 

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  • 08-16-2008 1:56 PM In reply to

    Re: Is Beolab 2 "necessary" with Beolab 1 and 7-4?

    I had the BV 4 with the BL 7-2 and Beolab 1's for about a year and a half before getting the BL 2.  I thought the BL-1's were great alone, but then my dealer offered a BL-2 as a loner for a week and I must admit, it really helped the BL-1's, not just because they lack in bass, but adding the BL-2 somehow relaxed the BL-1's allowing more detail for music.  For movies..... WOW!  Needless to say, I bought the BL-2 when funds allowed and listened to my music collection all over again.

     

    Roger

  • 08-16-2008 5:51 PM In reply to

    Re: Is Beolab 2 "necessary" with Beolab 1 and 7-4?

    Well, I have also a pair of lab 1 which was connected with a Lab 2 subwoofer. I was not satisfied with the sound and I decided to sell the Lab2.

     Then I bought a B&W PV1 subwoofer which is far better and less expensive than the Beolab 2.   However, PV1 is now for sale as I was very fortunate to buy a pair of Lab 5 which I use as front speakers.

    regards

    all sold!

  • 08-17-2008 5:01 AM In reply to

    • beoaus
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    Re: Is Beolab 2 "necessary" with Beolab 1 and 7-4?

    Not sure which BV740 you bought...

    In my case a BL2 was necessary. The BL1's should perform better through a BV740 but they do not.

    beoaus.

  • 08-17-2008 7:11 AM In reply to

    Re: Is Beolab 2 "necessary" with Beolab 1 and 7-4?

    Thank you all so much for replying!

    Guess I have to go find myself a Beolab 2...

    Thanks again guys! 

     

    BV 7-55, BL 7-4, BL 9's, BL 4's, BL 3's, BC 2300, Beo5, Beo4

     

  • 08-17-2008 7:22 AM In reply to

    Re: Is Beolab 2 "necessary" with Beolab 1 and 7-4?

    moxxey:
    takktakk:

    Hi all.

    I just bought a BV 7-40 with the 7-4 speaker (have not received it yet) and also bought Beolab 1...

    Although I've now disconnected my BL2 with the 7.4/BL9 combo, I'd certainly recommend the BL2 with the combo you suggest. It will add more depth - it will with the BL9's. The problem I had is that I found the bass was too incredible in a small room, which led to complaints from the residents two stories below my apartment! That only happened since using the BL2 with the BL9's though.

    See if you can locate a second hand BL2. I was tempted to sell mine, but I'm going to hold on in case my setup changes in the future.

    The conclusion is that, with movies at least, you'll always get the benefit from installing a BL2. However, just bear in mind that in a small room, the bass can be quite intense..

    Is the intensity and volume of the bass on the BL2 not adjustable? 

     

    BV 7-55, BL 7-4, BL 9's, BL 4's, BL 3's, BC 2300, Beo5, Beo4

     

  • 08-17-2008 7:24 AM In reply to

    Re: Is Beolab 2 "necessary" with Beolab 1 and 7-4?

    Dave:
    I can't recommend the BL2 but a good sub with those speakers in that setup should really add alot to the sound.

    Because you hav not heard it, or because you do not like it...? If the last is the case, may I ask why?

    Thanks. 

     

    BV 7-55, BL 7-4, BL 9's, BL 4's, BL 3's, BC 2300, Beo5, Beo4

     

  • 08-17-2008 8:16 AM In reply to

    • Dave
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    Re: Is Beolab 2 "necessary" with Beolab 1 and 7-4?

    I was loaned one by my fantastic dealer but i DID NOT like the sound. It was far too slow for the beolabs when listening to music, and for 5 thousand dollars, it didn't make any sense to have. I couldn't fault it when watching a movie though... (i rarely watch movies)

    The Bowers and Wilkins PV1 mentioned also many times is a very commendable sub to go with beolabs, look into that one for connecting to your BeoVision.

    Also, the dolby (powerlink) plugs on your beovision will do the filtering a bl2 would normally do and any volume adjustments if necessary. It's  a smaller unit too with a less intrusive aesthetic.

    I didn't at all like the size and design of the BL2 in our house. This is why i can not recommend it. Listen for yourself though mate, we all perceive sound individually, and we all have differing opinions.

    “Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of intelligent effort.”

    Your health and well-being comes first and fore-most.

     

     

  • 08-17-2008 11:03 AM In reply to

    • moxxey
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    Re: Is Beolab 2 "necessary" with Beolab 1 and 7-4?

    Dave:

    I was loaned one by my fantastic dealer but i DID NOT like the sound. It was far too slow for the beolabs when listening to music

    Correct. My BL3s sound way better with music, when disconnected from the BL2. The BL2 was no good with fast-moving electronic music. It's superb when watching movies, but can still overwhelm the bass in a small room.

  • 08-17-2008 12:12 PM In reply to

    • Dave
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    Re: Is Beolab 2 "necessary" with Beolab 1 and 7-4?

    I seem to have a very careful ear, and the BL2 destroyed the balance of sound to my ears and was a woeful performer with most of the music.

    “Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of intelligent effort.”

    Your health and well-being comes first and fore-most.

     

     

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