I think Tue's new awareness of the bizarre pricing structure at bno should help things . when other companies lower their prices , their's actually go up !

That can't continue indefinitely .. obviously  

I have the official 65" B&O so this has been a very interesting discussion to follow.

I personally do not care if people change or fake their product for personal use, I prefer to buy it as long as I can afford it, but these days the pricing will lead to end of B&O's as a company.

I'm also surprised to see how some people are replying not always nice and open minded, and it looks some of them are dealers.

Let's not forget the real reason why B&O does not sell anymore frames and fronts. It is mainly because in the past several dealers build fake B&O's and sold them for the real price. That stopped when an owner went directly to B&O for an issue. Not finger pointing to dealers etc. and it might not have occurred in the UK, but for sure it has been the case in other countries.

That's maybe a point to also consider before janking on a forum member sharing/asking for opinions.

TK

tkl95:

It is mainly because in the past several dealers build fake B&O's and sold them for the real price. That stopped when an owner went directly to B&O for an issue. Not finger pointing to dealers etc. and it might not have occurred in the UK, but for sure it has been the case in other countries.

Well that's news, can you explain further?

p.s. It's also good to have someone who's paid the "full price" who disagrees with some of the comments in this thread, and who also opposes the "it's only because you can't afford it" mentality!

I have a "fake" BV4 -it's a Fujitsu-Siemens in my office

Well -ofcourse it fools nobody, while there's a big Fujitsu-Siemens logo on it -but i'll guess the designer had seen a BV4

Anyway -interesting thread, this one. I'll not be the one to applause fake BnO...if someone pretends it's the real thing. But I must say that the B&O prices has gone "over the top" -to a level where I can not afford it any longer.
Especially when (for an example)  the BV4 is mostly a Panasonic dressed in a nice frame, the price is rediculous...I know that the costs are very high in Denmark (as I live here) but I can really not see why you must pay 10 times the price (or even more) because some danish workers put a nice frame on it
Back in the days of CRT, the TV's were assembled in Denmark - the price was only a few thousand DKKR over a comparable Philips or Sony or whatever -and the B&O was MUCH better looking. In those days there was at least 3 B&O models on the top 10 list of the most sold TV's in Denmark -today there's none...

I still have my BeoVision 3 for daily use in the livingroom -but when I buy a flatscreen it's not gonna be a B&O. I like the price of the BV8 -but I don't like the design...

did that some years ago, mounted a bezel from a dummy panel on a panasonic professional panel.

there was absolutely no difference to a genuine panel (wich I own now...). neither technically nor designwise.

and it didn't look that bad:

so don't blame people for having their own ideas...

maybe this thread belongs to the workbench rather than the dealers general forum.

I wonder if there is a "serial" input module that could be added to a Panasonic commercial screen that would enable on/off control by the BeoSystem?

It is always there.... RS-232....

Just the service menu needs to be altered OR (newer displays - as I was told) the software/firmware of the panel (which I don't believe....I suppose some setting will be ok).

Ralf