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  • 09-17-2007 9:02 AM

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    Confused [*-)] Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    Hi all

     

    I was lucky enough to win this beautiful beocenter in the August prize draw. it looks fantastic but I cant get the turntable to work !! The central black disc that should move up and down to register a record doesnt move and is stuck down and the lifting mechanism doesnt operate it just drags the needle across both at the start and finish and then returns but resting with the needle on the surface.

     

    I have a beogram 1500 and believe the mechanism is the same. I can work that one without any real problems. Has anyone any ideas?? I would love this to be fully functional!

     

    Thanks

    Andy 

  • 09-18-2007 5:27 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    Just to add it was all working and checked prior to postage therefore it has been knocked about during delivery. Has something simply been knocked out of line? Is it simple to look into? I have repaired a beogram 1500 so if its a simple mechanical issue I should be able to sort it. If it isnt then can anyone recommend a good engineer to send it to??

    Thanks

    Andy
  • 09-18-2007 5:43 AM In reply to

    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    Stupid question - you have undone the transit screws? I am sure you have but have to ask!
  • 09-18-2007 5:51 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    Always a good question to ask! Yes and double checked thanks the suspension works well.

    Regards

    Andy
  • 09-18-2007 6:15 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    The arm thing sounds like the often seen tonearm lift problem.
    We've had that here on the forum several times and I've uploaded a photo a couple of times to illustrate the point to lubricate but I can't seem to find it here now.

    Martin

  • 09-18-2007 7:10 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    Thanks Martin

    Ive tried to search the forum but cant find anything. If you have a picture but if not dont worry just use instructions. So is it relatively easy as i dont want to ruin this immaculate Beocenter!
  • 09-18-2007 8:36 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    Couldn't find it using the search function here either but Google is my friend...
    http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/post/8329.aspx

    Martin

  • 09-18-2007 9:10 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    Thanks Martin

    But why would it seize during transport as it was tested before it left??

    Andy
  • 09-18-2007 10:36 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    Of course, there can be several causes for the arm not
    lifting, transport damage can't be ruled out,
    but the above mentioned would be the first thing to check.

    Playing a record after standing unused for a long time, it
    will probably lower the arm correctly the first time but refuse to
    lift it again or only lift very slowly. This is very common.
    Since the signal is muted just before lifting the arm, you will
    not be aware of the needle abrading on the record unless you actually
    look at the arm while it (lifts and) returns.

    As I understand it, this Beocenter was indeed left unused for years
    and tested prior to the prize draw and I'm sure that it was working fine, playing
    a record but maybe just one and the fault would not be obvious.
    I would check the lift mechanism, it's not as hard as it seems, and
    while in there check the center tap.

    Martin

     

  • 09-18-2007 11:03 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    Many Thanks

    just ordered some sewing machine oil from ebay. I shall let you know how I get on!

    Andy
  • 09-19-2007 4:54 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    Hello!

    Dont know if its any help to you but on my BG 3000 (tangential) the raising middle adaptor got halfway stuck which resulted the pickup to lower just millimeters off the aluminum platter when I was trying to play a single! However after taking out the hole platter and the midlle mecanism carefully cleaning the plastic tube which goes up&down the platter size detector works again.If you have same size detector, my tip is to clean it well also, the center needs to move up/down with ease or you will get probs.

  • 09-19-2007 3:13 PM In reply to

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    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    MartinIm a little confused. Should the thin brass pin that slots into the big brass pin move i.e horizontally as this moves freely or does the big brass pin move up and down as this is rigid i.e vertically.

     

    Thanks

     

    Andy 

  • 09-19-2007 3:49 PM In reply to

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    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    The "hairpin" just goes through a hole in the brass rod.
    It will rock a bit sideways (horisontally) if pushed but that's not important.
    The important thing is the brass rod itself, the brass
    rod with the hole in it that is.
    It sits inside a brass tube and the rod should move up and
    down (vertically) fairly free inside its tube.
    Grab it gently with a pair of pliers and you should be able to
    slide it up and down a total of apprx 2 mm.
    If it's stuck, we have the situation I described and the cure is in the thread I link'ed to.

    Martin

  • 09-19-2007 4:08 PM In reply to

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    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    Understand now! yes its stuck! I will lubricate and hopefully after a couple of days it should free up!
  • 09-20-2007 2:58 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    You can help it a bit and speed up the process if you gently try to move the brass rod even if only slightly.
    It will ease the oil down the dry spots and you can easily feel the difference as it loosens.

    Martin

  • 09-20-2007 4:19 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    Thanks Martin

    Is there anything else I should stick some oil on whilst im in there? Considering it hasnt been used for 25 yrs!
  • 09-20-2007 5:31 PM In reply to

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    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    Hi

    After 24 hrs of soaking in oil the brass rod moves up and down unfortunately it still doesnt lift. Having looked inside the casing seems to have shifted and their are a number of loose wires not sure whether they should be loose or not??? Moved the central pin that goes through the brass hole but it was attached to a loose piece of brown plastic??

     Screwed it all back together connected to the speakers and no sound!! Even with headphones. The radio works Hadnt tested the sound before due to it scraping along the record.

    Bottom line is it must have been thrown about in the post ive also found in its box a side panel off something not sure what it is possibly right hand side of the turntable.

     Does anybody want this as a project? i have very basic knowledge and this is too complicated. Phoned b&0 they are not interested in repairing.

     Such a shame but if anybody wants my 5th prize they can have it and I will post in the UK only it is such a nice beocenter !

     

    Thanks for all your help

     

    Andy 

     

  • 09-21-2007 2:11 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    Andy,

    Can you provide a couple of photos of the lose wires, things etc. ?

    Martin

  • 09-21-2007 4:34 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beocenter 3300 Turntable problems

    Hi

    ive tried taking some photos but the camera isnt good and its just very blurry! Basically the pin that goes through brass rod has borken at its base its attched to a brown bit of plastic which is loose. The whole cassing was forced to the right and jammed aginst the amp section thus preventing the tone arm to move. Ive managed to centre it but I would imagine that its completely out of line?? There are a couple of wires from the tonearm that appear loose.

    Its really not an easy project im so dissapointed not for myself but because its sat for 30 yrs and now damaged in the post!! It needs somebody who knows what they are doing as i would imagine it would be very expensive to repair. Ive got a beogram 1500 can the mechanism be transplanted easily?

    Thanks again

    Andy
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