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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 09-11-2007 12:50 PM by waltoninn. 14 replies.
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sveifors
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- North of Norway
- Posts 145
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Is it difficult to see the difference between the fake and the real A8, or???
Sveifors
Always look on the B & O side of life
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Tom
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Luxembourg
- Posts 3,175
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sveifors: Is it difficult to see the difference between the fake and the real A8, or???
not really, the ends of the real A8's earclip are black, whereas those of the chinese ones are silver. There was a very good compare between the real A8s, the chinese A8s and the iPod earphones on the old beoworld. I am sure it is somewhere here too, but I just can't find it. Someone?
Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. - Berthold Auerbach
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SWISS_2
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Neuchatel, Suisse
- Posts 552
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Yes, there is a comparitive photograph of the original article and the fake that was posted here previously. But I believe a BS 3200 was mentioned in this case. Just a point in reference: I'm sitting on a Mies Van Der Rohe Barcelona Chair (made in China) typing this out this morning on a Logitech DiNovo Edge Bluetooth Keyboard (made in China) drinking Espresso out of a nice cup (made in China).. The Glass Noguchi Table next to me (made in China) has a Beo 4 resting on it, as my BS 3200 broadcasts the morning news. Other than the coffee from Brasil, I know the B&O items were made entirely in Europe, right ? Perhaps, and perhaps not. They all work and I'm more than content. Now on to the traffic and work.
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Peter
- Joined on 02-12-2007
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The 3200 is made in Europe. Some devices do have components made in China - the socket case for the BC2 is I believe sourced from the Far East, but the head unit is made in Denmark. It has been noted that the BS4 has stickers on with Chinese writing on but on investigation, the actual product seems to be manufactured in Europe. I would be fascinated to see a fake 3200 or one with made in China on it!
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Puncher
- Joined on 03-27-2007
- Nr. Durham, NE England.
- Posts 9,588
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tom: sveifors: Is it difficult to see the difference between the fake and the real A8, or???
not really, the ends of the real A8's earclip are black, whereas those of the chinese ones are silver. There was a very good compare between the real A8s, the chinese A8s and the iPod earphones on the old beoworld. I am sure it is somewhere here too, but I just can't find it. Someone?
Its HERE under the review although I haven't examined recent Chinese copies they may now be closer in appearance to the real deal (especially if they follow Beoworld)!
Generally speaking, you aren't learning much if your lips are moving.
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Dave
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Brisbane, Australia
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Peter: The 3200 is made in Europe. Some devices do have components made in China - the socket case for the BC2 is I believe sourced from the Far East, but the head unit is made in Denmark. It has been noted that the BS4 has stickers on with Chinese writing on but on investigation, the actual product seems to be manufactured in Europe. I would be fascinated to see a fake 3200 or one with made in China on it!
From what i've been told, our BS4 was made in Czech Republic, i just hope B&O keeps a close eye on Quality Control. Our BS4 snuck past QC during siesta. Our speaker frets for BL4000's also came from Czech.
“Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of intelligent effort.”
Your health and well-being comes first and fore-most.
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Beolab
- Joined on 05-18-2007
- Sweden
- Posts 535
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David: Peter: The 3200 is made in Europe. Some devices do have components made in China - the socket case for the BC2 is I believe sourced from the Far East, but the head unit is made in Denmark. It has been noted that the BS4 has stickers on with Chinese writing on but on investigation, the actual product seems to be manufactured in Europe. I would be fascinated to see a fake 3200 or one with made in China on it!
From what i've been told, our BS4 was made in Czech Republic, i just hope B&O keeps a close eye on Quality Control. Our BS4 snuck past QC during siesta.
Our speaker frets for BL4000's also came from Czech.
Note: Hehe, they don´t have siesta in Czech Republic... Maybe they drinked to much beer and vodka during the lunch break?=)
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Daniel Seiler
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Switzerland
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Actually i don not think that the built quality of a product depends really on the country where it is built. Okay, china has this reputation to produce more low end, cheap things. But i think there are also quite good manufaturers there. And i am sure that B&O does not chose their partners just for fun. They will have their expectations and will only give the job to a manufacturer that can meet B&O's quality standarts. I know that such things are also done by other "premium" brands like Mercedes, BMW, Lexus etc. They have a lot of chinese parts in it, and you won't find out. For me, it does not really matter where it is produced, as long an B&O keeps beeing B&O with their quality.
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waltoninn
- Joined on 06-04-2007
- USA
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I hope that B&O continues to manufacture their items in Europe. I do believe it is important where a product is manufactured. Experience in manufacturing is very valuable, especially in electronics, and the Europeans have a lot more exposure and experience in manufacturing for a competitive market place. Currently, many of the Asian manufacturing countries where electronics are made do not have that same experience. The exception is Japan. And that's because Japan, as a competitive market place, developed their own brand names, so they had a reputation to maintain, whereas in other Asian countries, and especially in China, they are contractors for other companies. If you think that the brand name manufacturers are going to be careful and choose the right contractor and oversee the quality control, that is often not the reality. That is why I don't mind that B&O set up a facility in Eastern Europe, because it is their own facility, not something that is contracted out. Yes, B&O has sourced components from other manufacturers, but it has largely been from other European manufacturers. I certainly hope that they don't source from anywhere else, because I buy B&O based on its reputation for quality and that the products are made in Europe. I am willing to pay more for B&O, quite a bit more, knowing that the products will last years to come. I have some B&O equipment, a Beogram and Beocord that I bought about 20 years ago!
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