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  • 11-20-2011 12:02 PM

    • EdouardG
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    Hmm [^o)] Can I control my B&O and non-B&O with Beo4 like Beo6

    Hi guys,

    I have a new Beo6 from more than 1 month but, even if I tried, I don't get used to it.

    I don't feel it as intutive as the beo4 to control my B&O and non-B&O products.

    So, if I decide to ask my dealer to take it back, could you please tell me if I can do the same things with beo4 as with the beo6?

    Will I be able to control my PS3 slim (with RE-BL dongle), TVIX Slim S1 Duo HD and my Apple TV 2 as do it today with my beo6?

    Or will it be very complicated?

    Let me know please.

     

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  • 11-20-2011 1:37 PM In reply to

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    Re: Can I control my B&O and non-B&O with Beo4 like Beo6

    Eddy,

    I will say sure for PS3 and ATV and yes for TIVIX if it's in the PUC list.

    I suppose the later is in the list because it works with beo6.

    I two was enable to get use to beo5...

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  • 11-20-2011 1:51 PM In reply to

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    Re: Can I control my B&O and non-B&O with Beo4 like Beo6

    BeoGreg:
    Eddy,

     

     

    I will say sure for PS3 and ATV and yes for TIVIX if it's in the PUC list.

     

    I suppose the later is in the list because it works with beo6.

     

     

    I two was enable to get use to beo5...

     

     

    Gregory

    Thanks for your reply mon ami!

    Could you please send me a PM with your email address so that we discuss about it.

    Thanks in advance.

    Best

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  • 11-20-2011 1:53 PM In reply to

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    Re: Can I control my B&O and non-B&O with Beo4 like Beo6

    Yes and no. Beo4 can`t transmit third party codes, only Beo codes. So you have to use the PUC and select MENU (or GO) to access buttons like Info, channel list, epg...

    Stefan

  • 11-20-2011 2:36 PM In reply to

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    Re: Can I control my B&O and non-B&O with Beo4 like Beo6

    stefan:

    Yes and no. Beo4 can`t transmit third party codes, only Beo codes. So you have to use the PUC and select MENU (or GO) to access buttons like Info, channel list, epg...

    Stefan

    Hi Stefan,

    Thanks for your reply.

    I already use the PUC with my beo6 or my beo4.

    The all 3 non-B&O products connected to my BV10 have IR stuck on them and connected to the PUC ports.

    What do you mean exactly?

     

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  • 11-21-2011 8:00 AM In reply to

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    Re: Can I control my B&O and non-B&O with Beo4 like Beo6

    As all your devices are PUC controlled it should be no problem to control them with Beo4 similiar to Beo6.

    The main difference are buttons like epg, info, menu... On your Beo6 you have one button to press - named exactly what it does - With Beo4 you have to press MENU (or GO) and a number. It`s a two button function.

    My experience is that it takes some time to get used to Beo5/6, but after a while it works great.

    I recommend to keep the Beo6 for a while and try to get used to it.

    Stefan

     

  • 11-21-2011 1:51 PM In reply to

    Re: Can I control my B&O and non-B&O with Beo4 like Beo6

    The Beo5/6 can also be programmed to control third party devices directly, not only through your PUC.

     

    Ask Keith for more info.

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  • 11-21-2011 2:29 PM In reply to

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    Re: Can I control my B&O and non-B&O with Beo4 like Beo6

    bayerische:

    The Beo5/6 can also be programmed to control third party devices directly, not only through your PUC.

     

    Ask Keith for more info.

    Hi,

    Thanks for the reply.

    I didn't know the beo6 could control 3rd party products without using the PUC.

    Thanks for sharing.

    stefan:

    As all your devices are PUC controlled it should be no problem to control them with Beo4 similiar to Beo6.

    The main difference are buttons like epg, info, menu... On your Beo6 you have one button to press - named exactly what it does - With Beo4 you have to press MENU (or GO) and a number. It`s a two button function.

    My experience is that it takes some time to get used to Beo5/6, but after a while it works great.

    I recommend to keep the Beo6 for a while and try to get used to it.

    Stefan

    Hi Stefan,

    Thanks for your answer.

    I'll go on trying to get used to it.

    I thought it would have been more intuitive/reactive, but it's not compared to the beo4.

    To be continued...

    Cheers

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  • 11-22-2011 11:20 AM In reply to

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    Re: Can I control my B&O and non-B&O with Beo4 like Beo6

    Have you tried looking at the Lintronic system? Basically I understand you can control any non B+O item with the Beo4 remote. I'm looking into this idea. 

     

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  • 11-22-2011 5:53 PM In reply to

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    Re: Can I control my B&O and non-B&O with Beo4 like Beo6

    Chris:

    Have you tried looking at the Lintronic system? Basically I understand you can control any non B+O item with the Beo4 remote. I'm looking into this idea. 

     

    Hi Chris,

    Thanks for your reply.

    Yes, I thought about Lintronic system, but as I don't own the house were I live today, I can't (and don't want to) spend a lot of money with such an advanced system.

    I think I will have to go on getting used to the Beo6 as the beo4 doesn't allow the same 1 button shortcuts as the beo6 do.

    Cheers,

     

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  • 11-23-2011 2:53 AM In reply to

    Re: Can I control my B&O and non-B&O with Beo4 like Beo6

    Edouard,

    I fully agree with the answers provided to you in this thread, but would make clear the following points so that there is no misunderstanding:-

    1. The Beo5 and Beo6 CAN control 99.9% of third party products DIRECTLY PROVIDED an XML control file has been made for that 3rd party product.
    2. B&O has a policy of ONLY supporting 3rd party products DIRECTLY where they are partner companies as listed below.
    3. B&O has a PUC library of hundreds of 3rd party products which a dealer can download to the PUC in your Beovision TV
    4. Many people do find using the Beo5 or Beo6 more difficult than the Beo4 normally because they have used the Beo4 for many years. One dealer recently told me that all his new customers love the Beo5/6 and apparently have no problems, but those who upgrade from a Beo4 to Beo5/6 are the ones who have issues. For many, its familiarity of the Beo4 which causes the problem.
    5. Having said what I did above, correctly setting up the Beo5/6 is also key to its success and using the B&O default positioning of buttons is often not that useful to the user, but can be quickly changed. For example, B&O by default puts all partner company entries in the "Scene" screen which in most cases is not very useful, but can be quickly changed, but often is not.

    So, I would look carefully at the current configuration of your Beo6 and ask yourself what needs to change or get moved to make it more user friendly for you and then get those changes implemented by your dealer.

    Below is a list of B&O's current partner companies where B&O has produced XML files which DIRECTLY control their products:-

    Air-conditions
          
      Daikin - BRC4C152 
      Daikin - BRC4C159 
      Daikin - Econo Cool 
      Fujitsu-Siemens – AR-RY13 
      LG – 6711A90022N 
      Mitsubishi – KM05E 
      Sanyo – RCS-8PS3E

    Automation Systems
          
      Amplituda 
      BtiCino 
      Busch-Jaeger 
      Clipsal 
      Future Automation 
      Lutron - Homeworks 
      Merten 
      Niko 
      PEHA

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      3BM Light 
      E:cue 
      Helvar – Digidim 
      Herstal 
      LK – Touch 350 Uni 
      Lutron – Advanced Codes 
      Lutron – Graffic Eye QS 
      Lutron – GRX-16IT-WH 
      Lutron – Maestro 
      Lutron – RadioRa 
      Lutron – Dual Dimmer 
      Lutron – Single Dimmer 
      Lutron – Sivoia QED

    Shades and Curtains
          
      Faber – Rollo ELC300 
      G-Rail – 6000 series 
      Hunter Douglas Shades 
      Velux – WLR 100 50 02 
      Velux – WUR 101 5001

     Other Items
          
      Feller – BeamIt 
      Kesseböhmer – ScreenMotion SME 
      Lava RC601 
      Linak HB20 
      Movie Glider 
      Salamander – Big-Fire 1125 
      Westmont Design – DT-IR 
      Örnell – Cooker Hood

    Regards Keith....

  • 11-23-2011 4:13 AM In reply to

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    Re: Can I control my B&O and non-B&O with Beo4 like Beo6

    @ Keith

    Thanks a lot for your reply Keith.

    I understand that being a Beo4 user for years, I need time to get used to my beo6.

    I will check what I don't like in the beo6 config so that my dealer change it.

    Cheers,

     

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