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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 12-20-2011 5:08 AM by kallasr. 9 replies.
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kallasr
- Joined on 04-19-2007
- Willich, NRW, Germany
- Posts 1,077
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How to update Beovision 3-28 STB-C List?
After I got a Beovision 3-28 for close to nothing... (everybody seems to want to get rid of the bulky TVs and buy the flat screens) I wanted to set up the STB-C to work with my DBox 2.
But in the List (STB Table 5.27a according to the service menu) there are only 2 entries!
Does that mean, the dealer that set up the tv deleted all the other entries???
If so, how can I update the list myself? I know it is a software update. What cable is needed? I suppose I will not need to open the TV, should work via the IR connection... And then use a Flash Tool (where to download?) and cables: 3375397 (cablekit)?
I updated the firmware of lots of Set-Top-Boxes, Routers etc. using ethernet and/or RS232 cables...
Any help is very much appriciated - PMs are welcome, too
Ralf
My Beo: Beosound 3000, Beolab 4000, Beo 4 DVD, Beolab 5000/Beomaster 5000, Beovox S45.2 with Stands, Beosystem 7000 black with Beolink 7000, Beolink 1000, F1000 (3 cubes), Beovox 5000, Beovox 3000, Attyca 1.
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Keith Saunders
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Technical Advisor, Little Ann, Hampshire, UK
- Posts 3,810
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Re: How to update Beovision 3-28 STB-C List?
Ralf,
Your Beovision 3-28 has a STB-C and its table of 3rd party STB's is defined by a physical chip installed in the set top box controller.
So, this is NOT upgradeable by using a flash software tool, you have to replace a physical chip.
In recent years the PUC was introduced which IS software upgradeable.
So, when you see B&O documentation which says STB-C you know it uses a hardware chip and when you see PUC you know its software upgradeable.
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kallasr
- Joined on 04-19-2007
- Willich, NRW, Germany
- Posts 1,077
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Re: How to update Beovision 3-28 STB-C List?
Keith,
thanks a lot for your help.
That is what I thought. BUT - can the dealer delete all entries except for two? AND: I read that the Beovision 3-28 chassis is similar to Beovision 1/MX 8000 chassis.
In the BV1_updateIII_863x_service_onsite-eng.pdf doc I find the following:
So, maybe sw update could work? (If cable kit is available and software tool is at hand).
Thanks again!
Ralf
My Beo: Beosound 3000, Beolab 4000, Beo 4 DVD, Beolab 5000/Beomaster 5000, Beovox S45.2 with Stands, Beosystem 7000 black with Beolink 7000, Beolink 1000, F1000 (3 cubes), Beovox 5000, Beovox 3000, Attyca 1.
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Keith Saunders
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Technical Advisor, Little Ann, Hampshire, UK
- Posts 3,810
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Re: How to update Beovision 3-28 STB-C List?
The Beovision 3 STB-C can only be updated with a chip change.
Why there are only two entries, I cannot really understand why except I noted that you say that it uses table 5.27a except there is no version 5.27a as far as I am aware. The latest table version for Central Europe is version 4.29 and the entries are shown below.
So, I can only assume, that either the STB-C chip is faulty or someone has programmed their own chip.
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DoubleU
- Joined on 05-09-2007
- Posts 866
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Re: How to update Beovision 3-28 STB-C List?
Keith, there are a few CRT's that are upgradeable with the flash tool. The MX8000 is one of those, and so is the 3-28. However, the 3-32 is not.
Ralph, you cannot do this by your self. Your dealer has the right (hardware) tools to get the job done. Good luck!
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akoro
- Joined on 08-07-2008
- Espoo, Finland
- Posts 88
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Re: How to update Beovision 3-28 STB-C List?
BV3-28, MX8000 and BV6-22 are quite similar sw wise and these all can be updated with Service Tool / IR Table Generator. Something your dealer / installer can easily do at home or in shop.Avant, BV3-32, old MX and BV5 need to have the chip to be changed. Not that complicated job either.
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hagan
- Joined on 05-19-2007
- Posts 128
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Re: How to update Beovision 3-28 STB-C List?
Hi!
We have a new chip and a BV3-32 with stb-c. But where is the chip located. You say it´s not that complicated a job. The bv is dismantled but can´t find the chip
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DoubleU
- Joined on 05-09-2007
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Re: How to update Beovision 3-28 STB-C List?
The chip is located on the stb-controller. To locate the controller, just follow the leads (2 wires) from the female ir-socket.
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akoro
- Joined on 08-07-2008
- Espoo, Finland
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Re: How to update Beovision 3-28 STB-C List?
hagan:
Hi!
We have a new chip and a BV3-32 with stb-c. But where is the chip located. You say it´s not that complicated a job. The bv is dismantled but can´t find the chip
I highly recommend to upgrade to gold membership to get access to service manual for the tv.
The chip is quite well hidden behind the main chassis in a separate stb-controller pcb and yet inside a metal case. After finding the !correct! chip it is not that complicated. And word of warning here - be sure to mount the metal casing top plate in the same orientation as it was. If you wont you will make a short circuit and it could blow the controller!
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kallasr
- Joined on 04-19-2007
- Willich, NRW, Germany
- Posts 1,077
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Re: How to update Beovision 3-28 STB-C List?
Just to let you know how I did proceed:
1. Tried HDR1 (STB-C puilt in) - with Nokia Dbox 2.
Very slow
2. Tried HDR2 (STB-C puilt in) - with Nokia Dbox 2.
Very slow
So, got rid of the Nodia Dbox 2 and:
3. Tried a Technisat Digicorder S1 with hardisk built in
Fast enough - works great!!
Another (more expensive) solution would have been to have ULF (hardware-)upgrade my Nokia Dbox 2 with his controller. Best of both worlds...
But it is TV #4, not used too often, so I can live with the "not so nice" Menu of the Digicorder.
Ralf
My Beo: Beosound 3000, Beolab 4000, Beo 4 DVD, Beolab 5000/Beomaster 5000, Beovox S45.2 with Stands, Beosystem 7000 black with Beolink 7000, Beolink 1000, F1000 (3 cubes), Beovox 5000, Beovox 3000, Attyca 1.
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