So here is the story: I bid on 10 manuals from a Greek eBay seller and these ended up on total of 24 euros. The seller asked for 85 euros shipping charges between Athens and Thessaloniki GREECE !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Normally and with the most expensive method would not cost more than 10-15 euros max! Best part of all is that the seller said that he is asking for these money because the items were not as BUY IT NOW but open to bids!!!!!!!! Crazy???!?!!?!?! I say completely. If he wanted more for his manuals he should have put on BUY IT NOW. I already got 10 non paying warnings and regardless of the fact that the SELLER agreed to cancel the sale in case I did not agree to pay for the shipping cost!!!

I would pick them up for you if I would be in Athens, Spiros:)

I proposed this as well since I have offices in Athens too and being there every week it would be very easy.

However he denied and said that he wants to ship them at the mentioned cost.

Reason is that I did not buy them on a high price therefore he clearly stated that he wants this money to cover the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know as good as me that you can't do anything else than either:

- pay that sum, if you really, really want that manuals (maybe it' a bunch of Beolit 39 manuals??)

- leave feedback and forget the whole story

 

I'd like to have the manuals but will not allow anyone in the world to put their hands in my pocket.

Of course some necessary steps have been taken through eBay.

And feedback will be for sure left with all remarks.

Spiros:

Reason is that I did not buy them on a high price therefore he clearly stated that he wants this money to cover the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since when are sellers allowed to make profits on shipping costs? Ridiculous!

Spiros, did you check'd this on Ebay regarding shipping policies?

Well -You can't blame your fellow countrymen that they are trying to make money, these days

You could always pay by Paypal then file a dispute for excess charges... You could provide evidence as the shipping costs will be printed on the parcel

 

Hi Jonathan,

Have already Reported this on eBay and had two x 30 mins discussion over the phone with eBay customer support and protection Dpt.

They said that I should not pay and they will tKe care of the rest as they cannot accept this kind of behavior from sellers.

So it remain to be seen what will happen this week!

Will keep forum informed!

It is against ebay to have excess shipping charges to avoid final value fee, which is what this person is doing. 

Really as a buyer what do you have to worry about?  He/she can't leave you negative feedback.  You can leave them negative feedback.  Buying on ebay is about a safe as you can want.

First of all it is the bad taste left behind. Concerning the manuals, I just wanted them.

Concerning feedback it's not really my style to leave negative feedback (although in this case I will).

However keep In mind that these were 10 separate listings, therefore 10 eBay non paying warnings which can really block your account. But in my case this is no issue as I already had a phone discussion with the customer support and they will take care of it just in case.

As I also sell some B&O my self (but privately as it is not for business) I always try to support a s much as possible, usually ending up in paying more shipping cost than actually asked for!! And because I act this way I was hoping for the same as a buyer. Just this!!

Were these manuals not available here on Beoworld?

On the US bay there is a lot of high shipping costs, in April I bought a BM 4000 located in Washington state, I paid USD 12.00 for shipping to McAllen Texas 3,500 Km, but checking shipping prices on items like that, I offen see 40-50 USD and I back of. The sellers post the most expensive shipping price they can find, and then ships the cheapest way they find, on the other hand packing a BM secure, double boxed does give an additional cost, but as far as I know the bay has no regulation for this, except for, its sellers responsability that the goods arrive without damage.

But for dokuments arriving in a an envelope I dont see how Spiros can go wrong with his claim.

Dear Soren, Many thanks for your kind words. Concerning the question arose for the download of the manuals, I guess it is a matter of collection to have these in original form instead of printouts!!

I have done tens of thousands of dollars selling ebay items, including a *LOT* of B&O, and $40-50 USD charge for shipping on a BM 4000 would be very reasonable from Washington to Texas.  I also live in Washington state.  It's probably more than what they spent but not much. 

Still a BM4400 has a quite large packaging and is heavy as well. Now he opened unpaid item cases x 10!!!!!!!

It could be much WORSE Spiros....

Check out the postage cost to Greece.

Chris.

Ohhhhhhhhhh my God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!