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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 05-26-2011 3:48 PM by filip_kbh. 43 replies.
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Step1
- Joined on 07-06-2008
- Manchester
- Posts 961
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Re: Beogram 4000 arm motor noise
Just compared the 4000 to the 8000 and the latter was definately noisier!
If I can find my external microphone I will try to get a video clip some time!
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chartz
- Joined on 07-20-2009
- Burgundy
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Re: Beogram 4000 arm motor noise
Step1:
Just compared the 4000 to the 8000 and the latter was definately noisier!
Really?
My Beogram 8000 carriage is very quiet, much more so than my 4000 and 4002 decks! Of course, not in normal operation, but manually moving in or out in fast mode!
When playing a record I can't hear the motors at all.
I too use either Singer oil or teflon grease (not oil). What is the special worm screw lubricant?
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filip_kbh
- Joined on 05-15-2011
- Posts 46
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Re: Beogram 4000 arm motor noise
Here is a small video recorded on my iPhone of my Beogram 4000. It's not completely silent as you may hear. The big click is when the electronic switches from 45 rpm to 33 rpm - some sort of relay I guess. The carriage noise which you may not hear is probably due to the carriage motor's wheel not being completely centered (it wobbles a little) and the rubber belt could perhaps be tighter. Anyway, it works great as it is. Seeing this baby in action when open, almost makes me whet :-)
Wobbly wheel:
I'm a little concerned about electrolytic capacitor number two from the right which seems a little leaked. However, the thing works. I have no idea what it is good for, though:
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Step1
- Joined on 07-06-2008
- Manchester
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Re: Beogram 4000 arm motor noise
I have been using carrs micro-grease which is 'a flouro-silicon based compound containing no hydrocarbons or solvents' (whatever that means!) designed with low sheer and high tenacity ideal for worm gears and small cogs. Made for model railway trains etc...
Seems to work fine but I am not sure if it responsible for noise reduction.
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filip_kbh
- Joined on 05-15-2011
- Posts 46
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Re: Beogram 4000 arm motor noise
The distance between the detector arm and the platter is supposed to be 13 mm but on mine it's 15 mm. I can't seem to loosen the nut as described in the service manual. Any tricks?
Edit: Fixed! I didn't know the small adjustment screws in the nut bearing should be loose first.
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Søren Hammer
- Joined on 01-07-2008
- Esbjerg/Denmark
- Posts 554
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Re: Beogram 4000 arm motor noise
My 4000 is a bit odd, have a look at the red speed indicators when running without a record and running with a 7":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnlXD2CSPpM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai2uQbNEHqk
My 4002 is louder in carriage motor noise, not a surprise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSSq-Iifp5k
My two Beogram 8002's, the first is a bit louder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNvS836fGcw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOiG0zrovtA
Beocenter 9300, Beogam CD50, Beocord 5500, Beomaster 3400, Beomaster 4400, 2 Beogram 4000, Beomaster 8000, 2 beogram 8002, Beovox S-75, Beovox MS150.2, Beovox RL6000, Beovox S-35, Beomaster 6000, 2 Beocord 9000, Beocord 8004, Beocord 5000, Form 1, 2x Beolink 1000, Beo4, MX3500, LS4500. Born 1993.
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filip_kbh
- Joined on 05-15-2011
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Re: Beogram 4000 arm motor noise
It looks like it operates normally.
However, I have a small belt problem. My belt seems to run very unstable on the side to the right of the motor but only in 33 rpm mode and it creates quite a bit of noise. Any suggestions? It seems that if I pull the floating suspension away from me that it is more stable.
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joeyboygolf
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Ely, Cambridgeshire, UK
- Posts 3,252
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Re: Beogram 4000 arm motor noise
filip_kbh:
It looks like it operates normally.
However, I have a small belt problem. My belt seems to run very unstable on the side to the right of the motor but only in 33 rpm mode and it creates quite a bit of noise. Any suggestions? It seems that if I pull the floating suspension away from me that it is more stable.
The motor pulley height needs adjusting relative to the platter
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Søren Mexico
- Joined on 09-13-2007
- Mexico city
- Posts 1,621
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Re: Beogram 4000 arm motor noise
joeyboygolf:
filip_kbh:
It looks like it operates normally.
However, I have a small belt problem. My belt seems to run very unstable on the side to the right of the motor but only in 33 rpm mode and it creates quite a bit of noise. Any suggestions? It seems that if I pull the floating suspension away from me that it is more stable.
The motor pulley height needs adjusting relative to the platter
Before addjusting the pulley, check for correct platter higth.
Beosound 3000, BL 4000, BL 8000, BG 2404,BG 5000, BG CD50, Beocord 5000, BM 901, BM 2400, BM 4000, BV S45, BV 3702. There is nothing we cannot do, but a lot of things we don't want to do!!
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filip_kbh
- Joined on 05-15-2011
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Re: Beogram 4000 arm motor noise
I already did that, and it's not because the belt is touching anything. It just vibrates a lot on the right side to the motor, coming from the platter it seems. However the belt is absolutely on the middle of the motor pulley.
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Søren Mexico
- Joined on 09-13-2007
- Mexico city
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Re: Beogram 4000 arm motor noise
Is the platter correctly centered, (suspension)
Beosound 3000, BL 4000, BL 8000, BG 2404,BG 5000, BG CD50, Beocord 5000, BM 901, BM 2400, BM 4000, BV S45, BV 3702. There is nothing we cannot do, but a lot of things we don't want to do!!
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filip_kbh
- Joined on 05-15-2011
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Re: Beogram 4000 arm motor noise
Maybe not entirely - it looks like the platter should be moved a little to the right. I don't know how to fix it :-(
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Søren Mexico
- Joined on 09-13-2007
- Mexico city
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Re: Beogram 4000 arm motor noise
I dont know exactly for your model, but normaly you will have to move the pieces where the suspention springs are hooked up, the manual will have a desciption of it.
Beosound 3000, BL 4000, BL 8000, BG 2404,BG 5000, BG CD50, Beocord 5000, BM 901, BM 2400, BM 4000, BV S45, BV 3702. There is nothing we cannot do, but a lot of things we don't want to do!!
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Søren Mexico
- Joined on 09-13-2007
- Mexico city
- Posts 1,621
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Re: Beogram 4000 arm motor noise
Is the band original, new and the correct size.
Beosound 3000, BL 4000, BL 8000, BG 2404,BG 5000, BG CD50, Beocord 5000, BM 901, BM 2400, BM 4000, BV S45, BV 3702. There is nothing we cannot do, but a lot of things we don't want to do!!
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filip_kbh
- Joined on 05-15-2011
- Posts 46
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Re: Beogram 4000 arm motor noise
It was indeed the belt. I changed it with the one from my other Beogram 4000 and now it works perfectly.
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