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  • 07-02-2007 8:04 PM

    • Bulgarien
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    AT LAST... Cheap ICEpower for the masses!

     

                                     

    The Chinese brand Murano  is a new brand and they are now selling Bang & Olufsen ICEpower amplifiers with very fair and cheap  prices and. Therefore  will the danish AR (Acoustic Reality)  olso sell ICEpower cheap from today. 

     I hope and think  that these prices  on ICEpower  will be stabile , becouse there now at the first time  are a europe (danish) reseller of Muranos ICEpower products ?.  Murano product are realy High End. ( look for your self on the Murano website)

    The High-End brand Jeff Rowland are still taken 7000 US dollar for 1 X 1000 watt ICEpower amplifier (!), so maybee the american olso should  beginning to change there prices, iff they still wont to sell B&O ICEpower amplifiers.

    Notice. The main  differens are only the cabinet... Inside them all; Murano, Rotel, Jeff Rowland, AR ,etc  they are all use the pure High-End B&O ICEpower modules, ready for use and plug and play..  

    From today there are new and cheap prices  on ICEpower from and Acoustic Reality

     http://arhifi.com/shop/default.asp 

    Her are some exsamples

    2 x 200 WATT RMS @4 ohm.  price 460 Euro,  620 US dollar or  320 pound!

    eAR® 202-REF stereo amplifier may be today’s best buy in high-end audio. Few amps can equal its combination of accuracy and musicality, and no amp can beat it when it comes to offering topnotch sound quality at a budget price.

    1 X 1000 WATT RMS @4 ohm. Price 840 Euro,  1123 US dollar or 567 pound (x2)

    eAR 1001-REF is an improved version of the most sold amplifier in the history of Acoustic Reality. It is a truly reference quality mono-block power amplifier, which represent the state-of-the-art in amplifier design and in ultra-accurate musical reproduction.

    And no,- its not difficult. Its  very easy to connect, as you can see, and everything will works as normal!  But the sound.. WOW .Yes

     

    MURANO ICEpower Amplifers.     Intro price in juli month

    The danish compagny www.hificable.dk  are selling  the real high End  mark Murano  ICEpower amplifier cheaper, but they has not yet make a regular international payment site . Make instead a contact on english.

    Priser:

    P-1000S Plus mono: normal price 6.995,- dk kr. . = 940 Euro or 636 pound

    Special price juli month   5.995,- dk kr. = 803 Euro or 545 pound

    Producent:  Web: www.murano-audio.com

    Contact the Danish reseller here

    Hificable.dk
    Nærumvænge 59, 2. th.
    2850 Nærum

    Tlf.: +45 3171 5156
    Mail: info@hificable.dk
    Web: www.hificable.dk



     

    OR

     

    Brand that all  use ICEpower or other  classe D types as tripath, hypex, zappulse etc.

    Ostenisbly, amplifiers with a switching output stage - encompasses digital and anlog input stages, regardless of linear comparator for pulse variation.

    Commonly known as digital amplifiers. 

    (the list are made by Serius Cold , Singapore)   http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=594707

    Acoustic Reality http://www.acoustic-reality.com/
    eAR202, etc (ICEPower)

    Aivin http://www.aivin.com.cn/
    DT300 (Tripath)

    Analog Research Technology http://www.analogresearch-technology.com/

    AudioArt (NL) http://www.audioart.nl/
    Van Medevoort MA240 (Hypex UcD)

    Audiodigit http://www.audiodigit.com/
    MC 8x100 (Tripath)

    AudioResearch http://www.audioresearch.com/
    150.2, 300.2, 150M (Tripath)

    AV123 http://www.av123.com/
    X-Empower, xAmp (prelaunch)
    (Philips class-D?)

    B&O http://www.icepower.bang-olufsen.com/sw1067.asp
    (ICEPower)

    BelCanto http://www.belcantodesign.com/products.html
    Evo (Tripath) eOne (ICEPower)

    Bertram http://www.audiokabel.dk/eng-main.htm
    (ICEPower)

    Carver http://www.carverusa.com/
    300.2, 700.2, 1200.2

    Cary Audio http://www.caryaudio.com/
    A 306 power amplifier

    Channel Islands Audio http://www.ciaudio.com/
    D100, D200 (Hypex UcD)

    Chapter Audio http://www.chapteraudio.co.uk/
    Couplet Power Amp (proprietary WMP class-D)

    D-Sonic http://www.d-sonic.net/
    Magnum (ICEPower)

    DIYCable http://www.diycable.com/
    Exodus (Hypex UcD)

    Egosys http://www.egosys.co.jp/
    Audiotrak DrAMP (Tripath)

    Elan http://www.elanhomesystems.com/
    D1200, D1600 (12 and 16 channel power amps, Tripath)

    Electronic Visionary Systems http://www.tweakaudio.com/
    EVS-2 (ICEPower)

    Flying Mole http://www.flyingmoleelectronics.com/
    (proprietary class-D)

    Gilmore Audio http://www.glacieraudio.com/
    Raven, Raptor, Dragonfly m/ch (looks like ICE)

    Halcro http://www.halcro.com/logic/home.asp
    Lyrus

    H2O Audio http://www.iceh2oaudio.com/
    M250, M500 (ICEpower)

    Integra /Onkyo http://www.integrahometheater.com/
    DTA 9.4 7x120W 8Ω

    Jeff Rowland http://www.jeffrowland.com/
    (ICEPower)

    Jjaz Audio http://www.jjaz.dk/
    (ICEPower)

    Kharma http://www.kharma.com/
    MP150

    LC Audio http://www.lcaudio.com/
    Predator SE (ZapPulse)

    Marantz http://www.marantz.jp
    Opsodis ES-150 (D2Audio) 2ch virtual surround

    Medius [DK] http://www.medius.cc/
    A II, A III

    MG Audiolabs http://www.mglaudiolabs.com/
    Symphony (Hypex UcD)

    Midgard Audio http://www.midgardaudio.no/www/
    (ICEPower)

    MindCraft (NL) http://www.mindcraft.nl/
    Media Amp One (Hypex UcD)

    Murano-Audio (TW) http://www.murano-audio.com/
    P500, P1000 (ICEPower)

    NHT http://nhthifi.com/
    Power2, Power5 (ICEpower)

    Nuforce http://www.nuforce.com/
    Ref 8, Ref 8b, Ref 9 (nPhysics proprietary class-D)

    NuVo Technologies http://www.nuvotechnologies.com/
    NV-P2100

    Onkyo http://www.onkyo.com/
    A-1VL, A-9755, A-9555 (?)

    PSAudio http://www.psaudio.com/
    GCA, GCMC (ICEPower)

    Red Dragon Audio http://www.reddragonaudio.com/
    (ICEpower)

    RedWineAudio http://www.redwineaudio.com/
    Clari-T, Lotus (Tripath)

    Rotel http://www.rotel.com/
    1077 (7x100), 1092 (2x500) (ICEPower)

    Sharp http://www.sharpusa.com/
    SM-SX1, SM-SX100

     Sonicweld  (Icepower)    http://www.sonicweld.com/  Thanks to Emmanuel92 Yes

    Sonneteer http://freespace.virgin.net/sonneteer.audio/bronte.html
    Brontë (Tripath)

    Sony http://www.sony.com/
    TA-DA9000ES, TA-FA1200ES (S-Master)

    Spectron http://www.spectronav.com/
    Musician, Troubador (int amp w digital inputs)

    TactAudio/Lyngford http://www.tactaudio.dk/ http://www.lyngford.com/
    Millennium & others (Equibit)

    TEAC Esoteric http://teac.co.jp/av/esoteric/
    AZ-1 pre-main (translated)

    ThetaDigital http://www.thetadigital.com/
    Virtu PowerDAC (Zetex class-Z)

    UniwaveTek http://www.uniwavetek.com/
    Anaco II

    Yamaha http://www.yamaha.com/
    MX-D1

    Thanks to SiriuslyCold, Singapore

    ___________________________________

    http://www.icepower.bang-olufsen.com/sw2013.asp

     

    Is there missing some brands?

     

                               Thanks to our friend Peter Pan for help and support.

      visit all his treads with more B&O stuff, pictures and great links primary about B&O

                                           Push on the PC, and enjoy more B&O

                                                       

     Visit the biggest danish B&O forum sites and get more info and ideas http://www.hifi4all.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=44109&PN=11 

     Guide to make differens DIN/phono, ect  plugs to B&O set-up  http://www.hifi4all.dk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32157&PN=1

     


  • 07-03-2007 5:44 AM In reply to

    • Bulgarien
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    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICEpower for the masses!

    Starting the easy ICEpower amplifier connektion. ( 500A model)

     

    Easy speakercable connektion to Penta speakers. The display will work as normal

    The first listning to ICEpower Smile I could not wait  wait... It sounds like heaven.

    Finish! Supplyed with the brilliant subwoofer PV1  from B&W . Powered by  500 watt ICEpower inside!

  • 07-03-2007 5:50 AM In reply to

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    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICEpower for the masses!

     

    Today I have  2 X 1000 watt to front Penta,   2 X 500 Watt to rear Penta, 500 watt to subwoofer,  and 120 watt to center.  Except the center speaker (Avant TV), they  all are driven by ICEpower amplifiers. And I promises you. You can hear it!

    Picture of  my newest amplifier  2 X 1000 watt B&O  ICEpower (1000ASP) used for the front speakers (still Penta) 

    Notice mine  BeoLab 2500 that I use as PC speakers!.  I have  change the the old tveeters to moderne speakers from Logitech and they sound great as PC speaker (with the Logitech subwoofer offcourse)

    From today is ICEpower a very cheap and absolutely perfect solution for getting some of the best sound you can think (real High-End) and its still B&O! Big Smile Go for it!
  • 07-03-2007 6:29 AM In reply to

    Re: AT LAST... Cheap and fair ICEpower for the public

    AWESOME!!!
  • 07-03-2007 8:39 AM In reply to

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    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICEpower for the public!

    1000 watts to Pentas? I feel a house party coming on Big Smile

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  • 07-03-2007 12:27 PM In reply to

    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICE power for the public

    Sounds great. I think Icepower will push best sound for price limit. I have no idea why people say ICEpower sounds cold. In fact, it should sound warmer than most amplifiers since the frequency response isn't the best in the upper registers but something tells me that it will no longer be a problem after a few years. 
  • 07-03-2007 3:28 PM In reply to

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    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICE power for the masses

    ICEpower from B&O dosent sound "cold"- not at all.

     They sound warm and  musical just like the best class A amplifieres and all kind of music sound great, not only one or two records...

     But you have right.-  there are some class D amplifiers from others brands that sound strange.

    But not B&O! They have make the perfect amplifier and the rewievs of them are all agree.

    NOTE  Remember that you first will get the  the full sound after a period of one month. Icepower need some time to get warming up/open up.

    Tjeck olso the phase in the power plug, and choose which way that sound best. With ICEpower it is easy to hear the difference in that kind of detail. Speakercable and signal cable sound olso different, but it proberly  the first time you can hear it!

    ICEpower review from http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/jjaz/jjaz.html

     I have heard BeoLab 5 many time and olso BeoLab 9 in the shops  but they  was all new, and therefore was the sound not yet optimal.

    Using ICEpower amplifiers is a better and (much cheaper) solution  then buying new active (expensive) loudspeakers. And then you olso can choose (passive) high-End speakers from others brand,- if you like.

    I have choose Penta  speaker becouse I think/mean they sound better then B&O new speakers as Beolab 5 and 9. (!)

    I can say that the Penta itself have newer been the problem,- its have allways  been the  very old amplifier in the buttom that couldent delevery detail and power at all , and therefore compariede to others brand was it a bad speakers with a terrible sound. Yes,- I realy mean terrible sound.

     With ICEpower this have change,-. Penta are now a real High End speaker, and I will not change them at all.

    With the ICEpower  amplifiers you get room and space , (just like surround) you get so many micro detail that you never have heard before and the bas is awesome and explosive. Penta are getting  alive again thanks to ICEpower. Enjoy the club

  • 07-03-2007 3:38 PM In reply to

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    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICE power for the public

    Not sure if it's due to the ICE Power amps, although you suggest it, but the ICE Power BeoLabs definitely need run in time. BeoLab 5s sound very 'tubby' when you first hear them, and BeoLab 9s sound big and wallowy, far too much hi-end. BeoLab 3s sound very clinical. They all seem to settle down over time though...

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  • 07-03-2007 3:50 PM In reply to

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    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICE power for the masses

    You are rigth about the sound from the new BeoLab speakers. But give them some time as you say, and they will sound great. 

     Its normal for all brandnew new speakers that they have to work for a  period before they play well, but notice that with ICEpower amplifier is the same olso nessesary. Therefore is the first impression in the shop proberly not the best... But after some short  time at home  they will give you full  value for your money.

    Icepower modules from B&O.

  • 07-03-2007 3:55 PM In reply to

    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICE power for the public

    Maybe the electrons are sort of learning their way around the circuit.

    Perhaps every set of speakers should be supplied with their own map......bit like the London Underground Map with the cicuit all picked out in different colours......would save the little blighters getting lost for the first month or so!!Laughing

    Regards Graham

  • 07-03-2007 4:08 PM In reply to

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    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICE power for the public

    Laughing Laughing Laughing

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  • 07-03-2007 5:31 PM In reply to

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    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICE power for the public

    Before ICEpower i was saying the same..It must bee woodo or something like that. No need to think about the electronic, cable and so on. Just plug and play .But studys shows that specialy the condenstor, that are a active component, ned time to "relax"

    You have to understand something.

     This is pure High End and I promice that you can hear all the small difference in the sound.  Prove ? My wife can without problem hear all the differens I am talking about. And I dont say anything to her about the difference, but she describe the same as I do! Wink 

    Pure high End ICEpower.(Bertram Beast 1000ASP)  Notice the power plug called FuruTech Fi-25 Rhodium, and yes,- there are difference.

    Taken from here http://www.hifisentralen.no/cgi/yabb/YaBB.cgi/YaBB.cgi?board=hifi1;action=display;num=1131284140;start=0;showall=true

     

     

  • 07-03-2007 6:27 PM In reply to

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    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICE power for the public

    Erik, Am I right in thinking you like ICE power?Wink

    Andy T.

    Poor me, never win owt!

  • 07-03-2007 6:42 PM In reply to

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    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICE power for the public

    jandyt:

    Erik, Am I right in thinking you like ICE power?Wink

    Andy T.

    Im not sure that like is the right word.... But Im sure that  GOD Lightning have given  ICEpower to us  Wink

  • 07-03-2007 6:50 PM In reply to

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    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICE power for the public

    I don't think I've come across anyone on here as enthusiastic as you have been over the past few months. I'm sure you started this about Pentas and ICE on the old forum.
    Good lad!

    Andy T.

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  • 07-03-2007 7:40 PM In reply to

    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICE power for the public

    Hey Bulgarian.....you are more radical than I am.....and I LOVE IT !!!!

    My god...1000 watt pentas...up front, 500 watters in the back.... !!!!! GREAT>..

     

    Are you in Bulgaria??  Sofia?? I do business with some people there.

    Good luck!!

  • 07-03-2007 9:59 PM In reply to

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    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICEpower for the public

    Very impressive, but don't even mention the difference between cables! argh! lol 

    “Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of intelligent effort.”

    Your health and well-being comes first and fore-most.

     

     

  • 07-04-2007 2:48 AM In reply to

    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICEpower for the public

    Thanks Bulgarien for so this so complete informations !

    I cannot find any reference to ICEPower on the Kharma page... How do you know they use ICEPower ?

    Regards
     

    Quoi de mieux qu'un BeoLab 2 ? 2 BeoLab 2 !

  • 07-04-2007 6:42 AM In reply to

    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICEpower for the public

    I doubt that Kharma is using ICE. Take a look at the description of thier amplifiers. It is a wide-bandwidth design and has a totally different feedback method employed. I think Bulgarien was just listing the audiophile companies who uses digital amplifiers becasue many of them aren't using ICE.
  • 07-04-2007 6:49 AM In reply to

    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICEpower for the public

    wonderfulelectric:
    I think Bulgarien was just listing the audiophile companies who uses digital amplifiers becasue many of them aren't using ICE.

    Maybe you are right, but Bulgarien wrote "Brand that all are using/have used  ICEpower ".

     

    Quoi de mieux qu'un BeoLab 2 ? 2 BeoLab 2 !

  • 07-04-2007 9:02 AM In reply to

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    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICEpower for the public

    You are offcourse right about the list above, and it shows which type of Classe D amplifier they are use and as yiu can see not all are ICEpower, but it also shows types as Tripath or DIY zappulse. I have taken the info from a danish site, but I have now found  the original site where the list are taken. The text are corrected.

     

    ICEpower’s present market position is in demanding professional, consumer and car audio, where ICEpower technology is used by more than 40 companies in 200 different products.

    Presently, we are approaching 500.000 high power channels sold. From this platform and unique position in the most demanding audio applications, ICEpower is now expanding to volume market segments.


    The following are examples of some of our customers and partners. For more information about products using ICEpower technology, click on the company name. http://www.icepower.bang-olufsen.com/sw1864.asp

     

    Adam Audio
    Bang & Olufsen
    B&W
    Canton
    D.A.S. Audio
    Eclipse
    Jeff Rowland
    PS Audio
    Renkus Heinz
    Rotel
    Speakerpower
    Samsung
    Sanyo

  • 07-04-2007 9:42 AM In reply to

    Re: AT LAST... Cheap ICEpower for the public

    OK I understand, these are PWM amplifiers, not especially ICEPower.

     

    Regards
     

    Quoi de mieux qu'un BeoLab 2 ? 2 BeoLab 2 !

  • 07-04-2007 9:47 AM In reply to

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