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  • 10-11-2010 8:37 PM

    • beoaus
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    Apple TV and BV7 IR lead

    Anyone know exactly where to connect the IR lead to the older Apple TV (white) and the newer (black one) one? Trial and error does not seem to end with consistant results.

    Thanks beoaus.

  • 10-12-2010 7:26 AM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV and BV7 IR lead

    I've just setup a Bv7-40 Mk3 & Apple TV (black), the IR lead pretty much works anywhere along the front of the apple tv. I haven't taped it in place - its just lying in front of the box. I've been meaning to attach the apple tv to the wall to neaten it all up - but haven't got that far as yet.

    The main problem I had was trying to work out how to wake up the apple tv (press up on the Beo4).....

  • 10-12-2010 11:52 AM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV and BV7 IR lead

    I have just connected up an older ATV (white) and I have the IR lead about 2cm away (above facing down) from the reciver on the ATV. The reciever is the black spot beside the tiny light. It works fine from that distance.

    Stoobie

  • 10-12-2010 1:54 PM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV and BV7 IR lead

    Hi,

    According to the instructions manual for the new ATV the IR receiver is located at the top of the front panel of the device (see page 8 of this link http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Apple_TV_2nd_gen_Setup_Guide.pdf)

    Thanks,

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  • 10-16-2010 2:57 AM In reply to

    • beoaus
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    Re: Apple TV and BV7 IR lead

    Is it stuck directly to the Apple TV (older white on). Do you have a picture?  I have a well lit room so I need to place the IR sender direct onto the Apple TV and cover it...

    thanks, beoaus...

  • 10-16-2010 2:35 PM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV and BV7 IR lead

    Hi beoaus,

    I have a BeoVision 5 on the floor cabinet and the AppleTV fits between the TV and the cabinet. (pic of TV from the web & close up of my set-up) The ATV is in the center and pushed back about 2cm and the IR eye is attached under the TV roughly where the arrow is so it is above the ATV firing down. It is 2cm above the IR reciever on the ATV.

    It is not particularly dark there and seems to work  OK day & night - Don't forget that the IR eye has to face the correct way. When you look at it it has a dark back, but the emitting side should be under the orginal sticky tape and you can see the clear emitter bulb. Peel off the original 2sided tape from that side and put 2sided tape one th back so it fires in the direction of the IR reciever on the ATV.

    I originally tested the emitter on the ATV on the floor in front of the BV5 and the emitter worked at least 10 cm away in a very bright sunny room (I didn't try further) as I knew it would work when under the BV5.

    Hope that helps

    Stoobie

     

  • 10-16-2010 7:46 PM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV and BV7 IR lead

    that is a very nice solution you have !

    First B&O (1976) was a Beogram 1500 ... latest (2011) change has been to couple the BL11 with the BL6Ks *sounds superb*

  • 10-17-2010 7:12 AM In reply to

    • beoaus
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    Re: Apple TV and BV7 IR lead

    Yes a very nice solution. Unfortunately I need to add the IR sender direct to the Apple TV. Imagine the unit placed either behind the TV or out of sight elsewhere. Similar to a STB bracket, how is the IR lead handled then?

    If I cover the black dot with the sender it does not work.

    beoaus.

  • 10-17-2010 7:20 AM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV and BV7 IR lead

    Thanks elephant,

    The photo doesn't do it justice! It looks even better in real life and the brushed silver on the ATV is almost the identical colour of the BV5. It looks really neat and as though it is purpose built for there! You wouldn't know it wasn't a B&O component. It also leaves the IR reciever clear for the odd ocasion I have to use the original remote to reset the ATV.

    I'm "windows" so hacked the ATV and use XBMC media center and it links in brilliantly with my PC upstairs. I tried the built in wireless which was good but I have B&O cordless phones and BeoLink Wirelss which all can interupt the ATV, so have conneted it to my ethernet. It really is an excellent piece of kit. Another reason for hackng it was to get composite out over the component out, as my BV5 is not blessed with any HD input.

    I did build my own Linux Media center in Feb using a SilverStone case, and it was OK but a bit noisy (there were aftermarket near silent fans and better heatsinks available but it was all more money). I chose a motherboard very similar in spec to the ATV but with s-vhs out but it never really produced a picture that fitted the screen resolution of th BV5. Then I got my ATV 160GB for £105 in almost unused condition. The ATV runs the same XBMC that I was using on my home made one and in silence!

    Mind you, the SilverStone case does look very B&O to me and looked good in one of the drawers under the BV5.  The front display is excellent and gives all sorts of info.  The front is mirrored and behind the left hand drop down flap is a slot load multi DVD recorder and multi card reader , which is something the ATV doesn't have, but I managed to get a bargain DVD2 at the same time as the ATV. It also came with and excellent IMon remote, but apparently you can teach the Linux  software to use any IR remote but I never got round to trying the Beo4.

    I was thinking of putting it up for sale loaded with the purchasers choice of Vista or Linux.

    Gosh I rambled on there a bit. Sorry.

    Stoobie

     

  • 10-17-2010 7:42 AM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV and BV7 IR lead

    'twas a lovely ramble :)

    several Beoworld generations ago I posted pictures of my attempt.

    I took a defunct Beosystem 5000's tape deck and gutted it to insert two stripped down laptops to become windows media centres playing BeoPlayer.

    One laptop constantly overheated and would go loopy playing the MP3s, and the other which stood a better chance I accidentally fried ... so at that point I gave up.

    I now use a MacMini and am hanging out for whatever the latest ATV evolved into !

    First B&O (1976) was a Beogram 1500 ... latest (2011) change has been to couple the BL11 with the BL6Ks *sounds superb*

  • 10-17-2010 8:28 AM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV and BV7 IR lead

    Hi beoaus,

    I think we need to clarify some points here before we can advise as I'm getting a bit confused as to what you are trying to do! Your initial post mentioned both the White & new Black ATV. So some more detail of what you have, what you are trying and what does & doesn't work for you may help.

    1. Confirm you definitely have the Previous generation ATV - the white/silver & not the new tiny black one?

    2. Do you have up to date software in both TV & ATV. Don't know about the TV software but do an update on the ATV.

    3. Do you use Beo4 or Beo5?

    4. I can't help with which PUC socket to use on your TV as I believe you have more than one, the BV5 has only one with a splitter. Others can advise I'm sure!

    5. Does the Apple Remote control it as it should? (The ATV needs to be unpaired from the Apple Remote).

    6. Not sure what choice of remotes you get in your menu on the TV but mine just says "apple remote". What are your choices?

    7. Do not try to pair the PUC with the ATV. Do not use the ATV "learn Remote" function. The B&O IR blaster should work exactly as the Apple Remote and unpaired.

    8. Can you currently control it at all with your B&O TV remote?

    9. If you can, does the emitter control it only if directly over the reciever, or will it control it from a few cms away?

    10. Is the emitter working? Do you have another to swap with to see if it is faulty. Looking at the actual IR emitter through a video camera/pone camera when activating it should show as a blinking light on the screen of the camera. (Just tested it & my Beo4 IR does not show up on the phone camera but the PUC IR emitter definitely blinks [B&O IR is not picked up as it's a different frequency to standard IR]).

    Once the IR sender is working properly it won't matter where you place the ATV. I tested mine again this morning, the sun comes in and shines right onto the ATV and even then the emitter still worked from where it is. ( I have to close the blinds if I'm watching TV before 9.30)

    The buttons to use on the Beo4 are the same as the ATV except you use EXIT on Beo4 and MENU on Apple Remote

    Stoobie

     

  • 10-17-2010 10:55 PM In reply to

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    Re: Apple TV and BV7 IR lead

    See below, and many thanks...

     

    Stoobietoo:

    Hi beoaus,

    I think we need to clarify some points here before we can advise as I'm getting a bit confused as to what you are trying to do! Your initial post mentioned both the White & new Black ATV. So some more detail of what you have, what you are trying and what does & doesn't work for you may help.

    1. Confirm you definitely have the Previous generation ATV - the white/silver & not the new tiny black one? I actually have both. The white one is the unit I am trying to control now.

    2. Do you have up to date software in both TV & ATV. Don't know about the TV software but do an update on the ATV. Yes I will be using Apple TV Australia from the STB controller.  I have a BV7 that has two PUC's. This IR lead comes from the old foxtel box which has been removed.

    3. Do you use Beo4 or Beo5? Beo4, about 6 of them.

    4. I can't help with which PUC socket to use on your TV as I believe you have more than one, the BV5 has only one with a splitter. Others can advise I'm sure!.  Its ok I am fine with that side.

    5. Does the Apple Remote control it as it should? (The ATV needs to be unpaired from the Apple Remote). Really, I thought it works without the unit being unpaired?  Maybe that is my problem? Why...

    6. Not sure what choice of remotes you get in your menu on the TV but mine just says "apple remote". What are your choices? Apple TV Australia, Apple ipod dock. Apple remote.

    7. Do not try to pair the PUC with the ATV. Do not use the ATV "learn Remote" function. The B&O IR blaster should work exactly as the Apple Remote and unpaired. Why do I have to un pair the apple remote.  I was told this was the old way? Its something I don't understand.

    8. Can you currently control it at all with your B&O TV remote? Nothing...

    9. If you can, does the emitter control it only if directly over the reciever, or will it control it from a few cms away? I will try again, I really wanted to sick the IR emitter onto the apple TV....

    10. Is the emitter working? Do you have another to swap with to see if it is faulty. Looking at the actual IR emitter through a video camera/pone camera when activating it should show as a blinking light on the screen of the camera. (Just tested it & my Beo4 IR does not show up on the phone camera but the PUC IR emitter definitely blinks [B&O IR is not picked up as it's a different frequency to standard IR]). The emitter works, it does on the foxtel box.

    Once the IR sender is working properly it won't matter where you place the ATV. I tested mine again this morning, the sun comes in and shines right onto the ATV and even then the emitter still worked from where it is. ( I have to close the blinds if I'm watching TV before 9.30). I may have it to close....

    The buttons to use on the Beo4 are the same as the ATV except you use EXIT on Beo4 and MENU on Apple Remote. I have the full remote control mapping, not much use as yet...:-)

    Stoobie

     

  • 10-19-2010 5:05 PM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV and BV7 IR lead

    beoaus:

    See below, and many thanks...

     

    Stoobietoo:

    Hi beoaus,

    I think we need to clarify some points here before we can advise as I'm getting a bit confused as to what you are trying to do! Your initial post mentioned both the White & new Black ATV. So some more detail of what you have, what you are trying and what does & doesn't work for you may help.

    1. Confirm you definitely have the Previous generation ATV - the white/silver & not the new tiny black one? I actually have both. The white one is the unit I am trying to control now.

    2. Do you have up to date software in both TV & ATV. Don't know about the TV software but do an update on the ATV. Yes I will be using Apple TV Australia from the STB controller.  I have a BV7 that has two PUC's. This IR lead comes from the old foxtel box which has been removed.

    3. Do you use Beo4 or Beo5? Beo4, about 6 of them.

    4. I can't help with which PUC socket to use on your TV as I believe you have more than one, the BV5 has only one with a splitter. Others can advise I'm sure!.  Its ok I am fine with that side.

    5. Does the Apple Remote control it as it should? (The ATV needs to be unpaired from the Apple Remote). Really, I thought it works without the unit being unpaired?  Maybe that is my problem? Why... I was told by my dealer that if the Apple remote is paired then the signals sent by the B&O won't be read as they are not from the paired remote so I use mine un-paired and it works.

    6. Not sure what choice of remotes you get in your menu on the TV but mine just says "apple remote". What are your choices? Apple TV Australia, Apple ipod dock. Apple remote. I use "Apple Remote" and that works perfectly for me, have you tried all and none work?

    7. Do not try to pair the PUC with the ATV. Do not use the ATV "learn Remote" function. The B&O IR blaster should work exactly as the Apple Remote and unpaired. Why do I have to un pair the apple remote.  I was told this was the old way? Its something I don't understand. I don't understand the paring thing either but was told by my dealer not to pair and it works for me.

    8. Can you currently control it at all with your B&O TV remote? Nothing...

    9. If you can, does the emitter control it only if directly over the reciever, or will it control it from a few cms away? I will try again, I really wanted to sick the IR emitter onto the apple TV.... ideally the emitter should be attached to the front of the AppleTV as you want.  Mine was in full view of the room and it looked a bit ugly stuck on the front so I was relieved it worked from further away. I mentioned the other scenarios to show that even from a small distance it can work but will work best directly over the reciever and if it is not working directley stuck on you have an issue.

    10. Is the emitter working? Do you have another to swap with to see if it is faulty. Looking at the actual IR emitter through a video camera/pone camera when activating it should show as a blinking light on the screen of the camera. (Just tested it & my Beo4 IR does not show up on the phone camera but the PUC IR emitter definitely blinks [B&O IR is not picked up as it's a different frequency to standard IR]). The emitter works, it does on the foxtel box. On my BV5 there is an issue about whether you use V-Aux or AV as the setting if you already have one IR transmitter!

    Once the IR sender is working properly it won't matter where you place the ATV. I tested mine again this morning, the sun comes in and shines right onto the ATV and even then the emitter still worked from where it is. ( I have to close the blinds if I'm watching TV before 9.30). I may have it to close.... The IR transmitter is made to be stuck directly to the recieveing eye.

    The buttons to use on the Beo4 are the same as the ATV except you use EXIT on Beo4 and MENU on Apple Remote. I have the full remote control mapping, not much use as yet...:-) If you are using "the full mapping" whatever that is - is that the issue. Have you tried just the standard 6 button ATV control set?

    Stoobie

     

     

  • 10-23-2010 10:07 PM In reply to

    • beoaus
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    Re: Apple TV and BV7 IR lead

    The setting was found to be AppleTV Australia, no others worked. The AppleTV remote had to be unpaired and finally the whole system turned off for 10min at the power socket with the IR lead disconnected at the TV. Its also useful to know that the yellow IR light flashes on the AppleTV when the sender is functioning.

    Took a while but thanks for your help.

    beoaus.

  • 10-24-2010 4:17 AM In reply to

    Re: Apple TV and BV7 IR lead

    Hi beoaus,

    Glad it is all working for you now!

    Stoobie

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