Hello All

I am finally swapping out my BV7 MK3 for a Mark 4 next week.

i cannot wait as the panning on the MK3 has annoyed me for ages.

I was going to get a MK5 but im happy to sit one model behind the latest one.

The screen spec says 100/120Hz, will this be 120Hz on the external bluray player???

What is panning ?

I am looking to get a BV7 40 mk3 at the moment

Hi there

Panning i woudl describe as the image juddering when the image is fast moving.

Funny thing is my Partner never even noticed it but i did, more so when i had the cinema output on rather than on the main tv screen.

The MK3 is a absolutly lovely TV but i have an addiction that i like to upgrade and keep moving with the times.

I would reccomend you watch some of your fav programs on a MK3 so you can judge for yourself.

If you get a MK3 make sure the software is updated as the early software crashed all the time and the newer software has nice black menu's and you can disable internal components like tv and dvd so you can use them for external sourses.

I was told that the mk5 would not be a radical LED LCD developement, but a natural progression to a 200hz panel!

Good luck and i hope you enjoy it.

Yeah the MK4 is 100/120Hz and the MK5 is 200Hz.

i dont know why the MK4 shows as 100 and 120Hz can anyone shed some light on this.

Seanie_230:

Panning i woudl describe as the image juddering when the image is fast moving.

I didn't see any difference between my MKIII and MKIV in regards to panning. The MKIII issues were fixed in sw and they are the same as the MKIV.

Personally, I couldn't recommend a MKIII to MKIV upgrade. The differences don't justify the expense. I'd wait for the MKVI which surely should be LED based. That will offer a bigger jump.

Panning = the act of rotating a camera horizontally

Just so that you know

Anyway image movement is a fundamental problem in digital video processing, especially when the frame rate or interlacing is changed (as with most flat panels). There can be big differences between implementations, but no, I don't know anything specific about these Beovisions.

TV refresh rates are linked to the ac line frequency. IN CRT days they were 50Hz in Europe (PAL/SECAM) and 60Hz in the US (NTSC). Toward the end of CRT we saw 100Hz models to minimise flicker, where an "intermediate" frame was generated within the TV (the signal was still 50HZ refresh).

Model flat panels do much the same by generating more intermediate frames by DSP, to minimise motion blur, although the refresh rate is still a multiple on the line freqency. In Europe panels will refresh at 100Hz or 200Hz whereas in the US they same panel will refresh at 120Hz or 240Hz.

yeah i would love to wait for the MKVI but the jump from MK3 would be to expensive for me so i will jump from 3 to 4 then 4 to 5 then five to six and so on.

I like to keep up to date with the current technology as best as possible without needing to break the bank every year.

Seanie

As much as I admire B & O it's not the technology that determines the purchase but their looks and how they will look in 5 years or more time.

Many of the B & O products are timeless  with so many companies trying to emulate the style.

If you want technology, buy Sony or  Samsung  etc.  You can replace them every year and still spend less than buying a Beovision 7 mkIV or mkV etc.

We all know B&O waits for technologies to be tried & tested. It will never be cutting edge technology but the designs they are installed will look gorgeous and remain so however dated the technology.

I can attest this with the humble Beovision3-32 on it's motorised stand. It suffers from panning, annoying but rare. The world cup was more than watchable on it.

Not that you need to from your list,  but I would spend the money on Beolab 9s. They look great and will not date. Enjoy your purchase but remember it will never be cutting edge however its design will always be outstanding.

Nguyen

Seanie_230:

 

I like to keep up to date with the current technology as best as possible without needing to break the bank every year.

 

they used to be cutting edge , look at the beogram 4k and co inventing dolby hx pro

i miss the old days

Seanie_230:

I like to keep up to date with the current technology as best as possible without needing to break the bank every year.

What new technology? There's almost nothing new in the MKIV apart from a 100Hz screen! Plus SD on the MKIV was worse than the MKIII - I deifinitely noticed a difference.

Even if the upgrade was £2000, that's still a far amount to pay each year for a relatively minor upgrade. It's the same TV ;) For example, what's significantly new in the MKV apart from a jump in panel Hz?

Yeah the Beolab 9's would be lovely but i will need to do a home test first to see how i get on with the sound from them.
The TV upgrade is more of a swap with a pre owned company so its no where near £2000 and i dont mind upgrading every year or two as the way i look at it

if i get the mk4 this year then my tv is worth x pounds, next year it will be worth less so the difference will increase so this way it keeps the price gap closer

Has anyone tried buying a 7-40 and then upgrading it by just changing the screen?. IE the stand and say the beolab2 speaker remained, and a new screen fitted.

This is what i do each time i change my TV

I keep my stand and 7.4 and just change the panel each time.

chris:

Has anyone tried buying a 7-40 and then upgrading it by just changing the screen?. IE the stand and say the beolab2 speaker remained, and a new screen fitted.

That's exactly what we do! Why would you replace the stand with the same stand? :)

Seanie_230:

The TV upgrade is more of a swap with a pre owned company....

Be careful though - I've had 3 x MKIV's so far and the first two (the early) editions alway crashed with a Sky HD box. This current one is from Jan 2010 and has been fine. This version has an updated panel, too, compared to the first MKIV.

I'm intrigued in this upgrading, how do get to find the screens only without shelling out for the stand &  speaker. I'm also assuming you nanage to keep the beosystem 3 chassis?

Nguyen

the beosystem3 is built into the screen / panel

most of the pre owned companys will sell you a screen only

lifestyle av at the top of the forum page

www.morethanav.co.uk

www.iconic-av.co.uk

all of these will sell just a screen and even maybe PX your current screen

chris:

Has anyone tried buying a 7-40 and then upgrading it by just changing the screen?. IE the stand and say the beolab2 speaker remained, and a new screen fitted.

 

Judging by the number of screen only BV7's available from Lee at Lifestyle, that's exactly what owners are doing.

Graham

Seanie_230:

most of the pre owned companys will sell you a screen only..

And any B&O dealer. Look at a dealers pricing and the BV7-40 is listed as a screen. All the stands/speakers are priced separately. It's always been that way.

Remember when you get a panel from your dealer you always receive the latest panel - B&O are always updating the panels through the lifespan of the model. For example, there was a marked improvement between my first BV7-40 MKIV panel in May 2009 and my third (and current) panel from January 2010. Was brighter and much sharper.

Yeah of course i forgot about dealers.

I found that the pre owned companies offer you more money for your panel that the main dealers but that could be location dependant.

If they can resell your screen quickly then the might have you a good offer