Sometimes people here discuss their favourite piece of B&O, i may have gotten mine yesterday: a 1938 BM38K in working condition, looks fine and with original cable etc.

The Master 38K has the white background dial and "real" speaker cloth (like yours).

It looks very similar to the Master Deluxe 38 which is
in fact a completely different and considerably larger (!) radio with
black background dial and rattan "cloth" speaker cover.

They are often confused.
Both are nice radios but, as said, very different.
The Master Deluxe 38 weighs apprx 22 Kgs and is a whopping 65cm wide
(just measured mine) and the speaker is also much larger than that of the Master 38K.

My Master 38K is not within reach right now but I agree that the Peerless speaker doesn't look right on the one currently at Ebay and neither does the baffleboard. I would have expected a speaker from B&O's own production.

Wonderful piece, you got there !

Martin

edit: I just checked, the servicemanual gives the Master 38K speaker as a Perma Kino I, so yours are correct.

Thanks Martin, so you have the service manual....hmm...would love to spend a week photocopying all these old manuals you have (for some of the other oldies i have).

Yes, apart from the speaker the rest looks absolutely fine.
I didn't know that it was listed for the second time around. If the price was the same I am also surprised that it didn't sell the first time.
All pre-WW2 B&O are greatly sought after and normally highly valued.

Problem with the older manuals is that they remain the property of B&O, they are clearly marked so and as such are not legally copied and distributed by others ...
Only way to go (legally) is through B&O or their distributors or by finding original manuals. Not all people take this seriously but I am not willing to get B&O angry in a copyright issue.

Martin

Now we're showing off :):), this one is also nice: BM43, it being from IN WW2 makes it even more interesting i find, this one is also in my small collection and was the oldest piece until yesterday.

A Master 43K (not a Beomaster...!).
Wonderful piece in great condition !

Very clear to see that this design lasted and was used on
several models to come, even into the 50's with only minor changes.
Denmark was occupied under WW2 and getting parts and resources was very hard.

Love the speaker cloth, it's original and hardly replaceable ...

Martin

It's great, isn't it, i also like the speaker cloth with the leaves, i think all of these radios have a different pattern....

Dillen:

Yes, apart from the speaker the rest looks absolutely fine.
I didn't know that it was listed for the second time around. If the price was the same I am also surprised that it didn't sell the first time.
All pre-WW2 B&O are greatly sought after and normally highly valued.

Problem with the older manuals is that they remain the property of B&O, they are clearly marked so and as such are not legally copied and distributed by others ...
Only way to go (legally) is through B&O or their distributors or by finding original manuals. Not all people take this seriously but I am not willing to get B&O angry in a copyright issue.

Martin

I think selling the manuals is probably a copyright problem though exactly how much interest B&O has in these older manuals is debatable. I will post any of the older manuals on site if donated! Busy scanning as many as I can this end! This is obviously for no gain for me! 

It's hard to guess their policy on this: i've repaired piles of MX's etc and when B&O Netherlands still existed i could get anything copied from them  (provided they have it).....that is...., up 'till the Avant.

I have about 100 or so! The Avant is around (I have a copy!) The problem is that they are usually much less useful as circuit diagrams are usually not provided. It is all module replacement these days.

Yeah, that's the next thing....

More on the Master 38 offered again on Ebay: again it didn't get sold with a starting price of 250 euro.

Just one small thing more on the Master 38 (probably Martin knows..:).): on the site of Jan Thogersen there's a pic of this one but with a kind of rainbow coloured stripe speaker cloth, while mine has just 'cream' colour plain speakercloth.

I doubt the one on Thogersens website has the correct speaker cloth, it makes the whole thing look strange, I think. I saw a couple of Master 38K's and they were all like the one picture in the first post of this thread. That includes my own.

B&O did experiment with patterns and figures but it was on a limited number of models, the Master 43K springs to mind. The one pictured on Thogersens website is just like another one I've seen by a fellow collector so I suppose must be original.

Thogersen also has a blue PIONEER 511K that obviously isn't correct either. That's collecting.

Martin

Thanks Martin, i agree with you that the colour stripe cloth looks strange on it, doesn't go well with the 2 silver bars, actually i was hoping you'd seen more of those (master38) so that would clear it up, which it did.

You guys spoiled some of the fun of waiting by reviving this topic a couple of weeks ago, but anyway - look here! The girlfriend made me buy this!

It is even supposed to be working, but I'm not going to power it up until I've made some security checks, and I need to remove the transport supports the seller has put inside the radio. Stupid question: how do I open this?  The back panel seems to pull off, but the power cord end is not moving. Do I just pull off the round thingy with the power cord?

Congratulations on your purchase. It's worth buying just for the dial which is a brilliant piece of design!

 

Simon

Sure is. Quite gorgeous!

Lucky you Mika!

Hope it performs as good as it looks - quite stunning

Chris.

Thank you The dial was actually the thing that got my attention instantly! I would've paid the price for just the looks of this radio even if it didn't work at all.

Yes, the back cover came off, the power cord plug is keeping it in place. I removed the newspaper pieces that were stuffed in, and as everything looked pretty neat and clean, had the courage to plug the radio in and turn it on. It works! I get strong reception on the SW 18-54 m scale with just a length of wire stuck in the antenna socket. Other scales give mostly interference, maybe they have a problem or I have too many computers on... Other than that, the tuning controls seem to slip a little and need attention.

Looks like I have another piece of B&O kit I'll never sell!

Hi Mika, congrats with the Master 38, it looks nice and original (i assume you've read the previous postings here..).

Congratulations on your purchase Mika. She looks gorgeous.
One you can pass down to your grandchildren and their grandchildren.

Congratulations ! Definitely a nice piece. 

Martin

ipaul:

Hi Mika, congrats with the Master 38, it looks nice and original (i assume you've read the previous postings here..).

So that makes us 3 lucky owners of this one (btw mine also works...): you, Martin and your's truly.

Only one remark of you i found interesting (usually on this site you read the opposite !!): you stated your girlfriend made you buy it ???:):)

Yes, I read the whole thread - actually found it only after buying this when I did a search for any previous talk on the subject. This one has the Perma Kino speaker as well. And it really was the girlfriend's fault - I showed the listing to her saying "I don't know if I should bid on this or not..." and she said yes, you do I had doubts only because I was pretty sure the poor radio wouldn't survive the travel, but it was packed very carefully.

Cool...where did it come from ? (you got it from an auction site and had it shipped ??).