I noted this morning that Beoworld now has 1930 members which just shows what a valuable source of information it is to the B&O community. I also noted with surprise, given the value of the site to members, that there is still 74 "Founder" Gold member opportunites left to be taken up.

That means there is an opportunity for 1,504 current non-gold members to upgrade to "Founder" member even after two months from the launch date and it is only a few days away from the second prize draw. Come on Guys, given the amount of work (and money) Lee, Peter and the other moderators have put into making this site successfull, I would have thought it was a very small price to pay and you may also be lucky enough to win, the odds are currently 426 to 1, that seems quite good odds to me.

Alex:

Agreed! Even with all founder member accounts taken, there's still a 1 in 50 chance of winning something (despite my poor maths, I think that's right!).

Alex,

Not wishing to question your maths, I feel even Beoworld are not giving those good odds. Just because there are 10 prizes does not mean the odds get better. Also, as Lee draws the 10th prize first, the odds actually get better as you approach the first prize because one person is being taken out of the pot each time. In other words the previous prize winner does not go back into the pot otherwise he could, in theory, win more than once on the same draw day.

So, if there are 500 people in the draw and the 10th prize winner is drawn, then the odds were 500 to 1

Subsequently, when the 9th prize is drawn the odds will be 499 to 1 because the 10th winner has been removed from the pot.

Before the site was launched ,I thought, that the founder memberships would be sold out within a week or two. I must say that I am astonished/ disappointed of this, as I thought there had been more members of the old site posting about their will to go for gold.

Lee, we can find out how many gold members there are, buy filtering for founder members only. Would it be possible, to filter for gold (once there are gold members that are not founder members, the number of gold-members will not be public any more) and for silver members. Or could you just include a counter at the bottom of the forums page saying we have x gold members, y silver-members and z bronze members. Would be usefull IMO.

I was the same I thought the founder places would go almost right away, so on the big day I was logging on all day to make sure I did not miss it.

I think everyone thought the start would be better than it was, however it is really good to see a steady rise in the membership as the weeks pass, and I think this will continue steadily in the months to come, as people see the value of the site.

@Lee has anyone mentioned/thought of beoworld selling some of the branded goodies on ebay, with a link to the home page etc, may help to raise profile? worth a try I think. 

Graeme:

...@Lee has anyone mentioned/thought of beoworld selling some of the branded goodies on ebay, with a link to the home page etc, may help to raise profile? worth a try I think. 

I think this has been mentioned many times before, but I doubt if it has been done

Keith Saunders:

the odds actually get better as you approach the first prize because one person is being taken out of the pot each time. In other words the previous prize winner does not go back into the pot otherwise he could, in theory, win more than once on the same draw day.

He uses a random number generator and matches the random number against a list of members, so the random number generator could pick the same number twice and the member could win more than once. More reason to go for GOLD MEMBERSHIP.

Am I correct 9LEE ?

That's what I was led to believe, too.
Hence it would be foeasable phoesable feesable possible to win all ten prizes
However, were that to happen, I think the s**t would hit the fan!

Andy T.

Keith Saunders:

Alex,

Not wishing to question your maths, I feel even Beoworld are not giving those good odds. Just because there are 10 prizes does not mean the odds get better. Also, as Lee draws the 10th prize first, the odds actually get better as you approach the first prize because one person is being taken out of the pot each time. In other words the previous prize winner does not go back into the pot otherwise he could, in theory, win more than once on the same draw day.

So, if there are 500 people in the draw and the 10th prize winner is drawn, then the odds were 500 to 1

Subsequently, when the 9th prize is drawn the odds will be 499 to 1 because the 10th winner has been removed from the pot.

Yeah, but there is a chance. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Andy T.

muntbeoman:

The chance of winning all 10 prizes would actually be around 1 in 9,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Alex:

muntbeoman:

The chance of winning all 10 prizes would actually be around 1 in 9,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Actually it's more like 1 to infinity, because once you've won one prize, you can't win another

Alex, you're on a role now!

tom:

Graeme:

...@Lee has anyone mentioned/thought of beoworld selling some of the branded goodies on ebay, with a link to the home page etc, may help to raise profile? worth a try I think. 

I think this has been mentioned many times before, but I doubt if it has been done

I won't bore you all with how much there is behind the scenes to do at BeoWorld, but i can assure you that if i put 40 hours a week into it, it still wouldn't be enough..  However, i'm doing my best, and little by little i'm getting things done.  If anyone wants to check out inside the back cover (1 page in) of What Hi-Fi Ultimate Guides this month (with the BeoLab 9 on the front cover) you will see i have advertised BeoWorld in there.  They originally wanted £800 + VAT for that spot, and i got it for £70 !!  I really am trying guys, but i can't do it all at once.

Henry:

Alex:

muntbeoman:

The chance of winning all 10 prizes would actually be around 1 in 9,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Actually it's more like 1 to infinity, because once you've won one prize, you can't win another

Alex, you're on a role now!

Shouldn't that be roll?

Keith Saunders:

So, if there are 500 people in the draw and the 10th prize winner is drawn, then the odds were 500 to 1

Subsequently, when the 9th prize is drawn the odds will be 499 to 1 because the 10th winner has been removed from the pot.

OK - as we're talking maths here.

My ex-bookmaker father assured me (before he shuffled off this mortal coil) that it works like this - with 500 people in the draw you actually have a 499 to 1 chance as you need to take yourself out of the original 500. The odds then go as said by you Keith.

What? me? pedantic?

Chris.

Actually, its less than that. It's about 45, as some people join as Gold but don't activate their email link to register for the forums - which then doesn't register them when you search for Founder Members.  On my admin panel i have the true numbers!

Lee