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S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
Hello ![Smile](http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif)
Two days ago I found good example of above mentioned speakers without floor stand. I see that it is very complicated to find just stand for this speakers therefore, on second thought I was thinking maybe I can try to make them, as I see stand are not that complicated to make.
So my question is, if someone have this stands I would be very happy if I can get some pictures and some basic dimensions ...
Thank you ![Smile](http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif)
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
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I think I can help you... but give me a day or three! ![Wink](http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/05.gif)
I knew it I can count o you ![Yes - thumbs up](http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/21.gif)
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after that quench with some vodka, if you still feel juice like take beer
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
I saw that s45, s55, s80 from 83-86 have same stands, at least they look same on pictures.
Are they the same ?
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
S45/S55 might well be the same since the speakers are pretty much the same size.
I have a pair of S80.2's with stands, but the speakers seem to have ~7 cm more depth, and these stands might look a bit "long toed" on the others... But if Jeff can't find the correct stands, I'll be happy to measure mine - probably all that differs (if anything) is the size of the rectangle on the floor.
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
I saw this picture and to me they all look the same ....
when your Black Label begin to taste like juice just take shot or two of Absinthe and
after that quench with some vodka, if you still feel juice like take beer
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
So these are S80.2 stands - perhaps Jeff can confirm if the S45 stands are indeed the same.
The material is 15 x 25 mm rectangular steel tube for all parts except the mounting bar at the top, that is 10 x 16 mm solid steel.
The outer dimensions of the bottom rectangle are 265 (W) x 255 (D). The length of the vertical bar is 510 mm - as you can see in this side view, it is slightly angled.
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
Here's the bottom view. Everything else is welded together except this joint for the vertical bar, it has an Allen screw inside. It might be easier to simply weld this joint as well if you don't ever need to ship these in a flat package.
There are four plastic feet, apparently plugged into holes in the steel tube.
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
Here's a closeup of the top bar. The mounting holes for the speaker are 185 mm apart and countersunk. The speakers have threads for metric M4 screws.
One thing I forgot to photograph - the vertical angle of the speakers can be adjusted with another M4 screw, there's a thread for it on the inside of the vertical bar, 160 mm from the top. The holes on the stand need to be a little larger than normal (for a M4) to let the screws move a little with this adjustment.
The end of the vertical bar has a gray plastic plug on top.
That's it. You are probably much better qualified to draw a real mechanical drawing on these ![Laughing](http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif)
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
BenSA:
I think I might also get some made. Only thing is finding out the angle of the vertical bar! Are they painted or metal?
They are painted. Couldn't find an angle disc anywhere, I'll need to take a straight side shot to approximate it (tomorrow when there's daylight again...).
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
WOW Mika! Thank you very much ! This is more than I need ...
So I made technical drawing of stand, and because vertical part is slightly angled I need two more dimensions ( which I draw with red line's ) to know the angle ...
Thank you again ![Smile](http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif)
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when your Black Label begin to taste like juice just take shot or two of Absinthe and
after that quench with some vodka, if you still feel juice like take beer
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
nmartin771:
WOW Mika! Thank you very much ! This is more than I need ...
So I made technical drawing of stand, and because vertical part is slightly angled I need two more dimensions ( which I draw with red line's ) to know the angle ...
Thank you again ![Smile](http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif)
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Thats brilliant nmartin (big thanks to tournedos as well!). Will you post the finished diagrams when you've done it? What about the space between the two holes on the top horizontal bar. I suppose I could measure the back of a speaker. What type of screws are used? This is very exciting!
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
I think the best way is to measure directly on the speakers and mark on horizontal bar and than drill it, because we don't know weather is the same distance between holes on S45, S55, S80 ....
Of course I will post finishing products :) I'm thinking to make them of some other metal ... maybe stainless steel ...
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after that quench with some vodka, if you still feel juice like take beer
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
nmartin771:
I think the best way is to measure directly on the speakers and mark on horizontal bar and than drill it, because we don't know weather is the same distance between holes on S45, S55, S80 ....
BTW small error there in your drawing (and something I forgot to measure) - I only now noticed that there's third diagram on the right...
The length of the mounting bar is 200 mm, it is the holes that are 185 mm apart.
I would expect this be the same for all S45 - S/MC120 since they are the same width - but I guess anyone wanting to make these stands can measure his own pair of speakers to be sure
Screws are M4 as I mentioned earlier.
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
Error fixed ![Smile](http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif)
only thing which is left is angle and I can start make them ...
when your Black Label begin to taste like juice just take shot or two of Absinthe and
after that quench with some vodka, if you still feel juice like take beer
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
So here's another side view, angle approximation courtesy of CorelDraw.
Probably 93.0° by design, but seriously, who's going to notice or care if it is a degree or two off as long as both stands are the same?
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
Mika, you never stop to surprise me ![Yes - thumbs up](http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/21.gif)
Great! Again thank you very much ! Your drawing looks more professional than mine ![Yes - thumbs up](http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/21.gif)
Actually I really like those two giraffe sculptures ![Wink](http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/05.gif)
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
HA ! I didn't notice small dark yellow giraffe behind ![Big Smile](http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/02.gif)
when your Black Label begin to taste like juice just take shot or two of Absinthe and
after that quench with some vodka, if you still feel juice like take beer
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
Looks like you guys are on the ball! My: "day or three" was accurate... horrid weekend! ![Super Angry](http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/34.gif)
At this point I can offer to validate the measurements; I can also offer that there are different sized stands -as I have at least two different sizes.
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
No problem Jaff ![Smile](http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/01.gif)
We are waiting for your validation ![Beer](http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/emotion-22.gif)
when your Black Label begin to taste like juice just take shot or two of Absinthe and
after that quench with some vodka, if you still feel juice like take beer
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
I was just worried that you won't have a metric measuring tape Jaff, and we'd have to deal with some dead king's elbow lengths or something
I'll be interested to see what the other sizes might be. The guy I bought these speakers from had made new mounting holes in the speakers so that they sat about 10 cm lower than originally (the pic above is with the "correct" holes). Have to agree I liked the lower look more.
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Re: S45 (83-86) floor stand ???
I got original manuals for most of my Beovox speakers.
S45-2, S80.2 S120 and M150
They all use the 6017 stand exept the M150 is called 6016.
You have the option to wall mount those 6017 speakers too with the 6014 wall mount.
I was close to missing those but thank god I noticed them and got the 2 NOS pairs.
![](http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n277/Friedmett/Stumpemarkedokt2009036.jpg)
Each package consist of 2 plates, a bag of screws and mounting instructions.
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The speakers can be mounted 2 ways and still be tipped like when on stands.
As seen here on a pair of Beovox S45-2 you mount 2 screws and then you can hang the speaker on the plate.
![](http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n277/Friedmett/Beomaster1900-2012.jpg)
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As far as I can see I can use Beovox S45-2, S80.2 and S120 which is great.
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