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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 09-16-2011 3:41 PM by Jeff. 51 replies.
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macjonny1
- Joined on 11-08-2009
- Posts 355
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Yes I would agree that the BL11 is well suited to augment a 2-ch stereo setup or a setup where you don't want the full theater effect.
However, B&O doesn't make a good-at-everything subwoofer! The BL11 doesn't give you that deep base and power that you need for a full surround system.
The BL2 is reportedly a bit slow for rapid music beats and such. Lots of power, good for home theater use, etc.
Compromise on both models.
There are lots of other manufacturers of subwoofers that make great all around units that are fast and powerful. Take a number of models by B&W, for example, and you see some great-looking models with awesome specs.
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jjcox
- Joined on 05-31-2009
- Midden-Brabant, the Netherlands
- Posts 61
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But... does it look like Sonny Crockett's vision of a Dutch tulip? NO WAY! So, no competition .
Sorry, couldn't resist. After a week or two I'm still completely in love with the thing and realise it's the best addition I could have ever made. And it's got a huge WAF as well.
Regarding its 'rumbling qualities' for a full home theatre setup: it might be just perfect for those (like me) who don't live in free standing mansions. Home theatre while staying friends with the neighbours! Let's call it the NAF .
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Alex
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Bath & Cardiff, UK
- Posts 2,990
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macjonny1:
However, B&O doesn't make a good-at-everything subwoofer! The BL11 doesn't give you that deep base and power that you need for a full surround system.
The BL2 is reportedly a bit slow for rapid music beats and such. Lots of power, good for home theater use, etc.
Compromise on both models.
Every speaker design is a compromise. The 'specs' of subwoofers really do mean very little. Just because a subwoofer says it goes down to 20 Hz doesn't mean it's accurate when you get it that low. I've heard some awful B&W subwoofers (and some great ones).
Designing a system which can put it's hand to anything and do it well is very costly, as the BeoLab 5s demonstrate (great for both movies and music), and then you encounter other pitfalls (such as size/cabinet volume).
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Russ
- Joined on 05-07-2007
- Washington, DC USA
- Posts 641
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OK, our display unit just arrived and we have it running now...serendipitously enough we are using the BeoLab 3's, not the suggested 4000's.
My initial reaction is positive. At low volumes the difference is apparent but not gob-smacking. At higher volumes the difference is quite startling. The in-store display allows for near-instant switching, so there is no problem with 'hearing memory'. I'll need some time to listen to a reasonable variety of music, and I will be really curious as to the difference it makes with the 6000's.
Russ
We kid because we love.
Bang & Olufsen Tysons Galleria
McLean, VA USA
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moxxey
- Joined on 04-14-2007
- South West, UK
- Posts 2,360
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jjcox:
But... does it look like Sonny Crockett's vision of a Dutch tulip? NO WAY! So, no competition .
I don't get impressed easily, but I was impressed with the design of the BL11, when I saw it at my dealer the other day. Looks great in white. Much smaller than I expected though.
Good to hear it enhances the BL3s. People within the industry have suggested that it probably won't enhance a BL3-based setup as it was designed to enhance BL4000/6000s. I doubted this as it drops as low as 33Hz.
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gumboots
- Joined on 02-23-2009
- Posts 47
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Hello, I'm french.
I would like to know what do you think about Beolab 11 with beolab 3 et beosound 4 ? Does it work ? Somebody have this installation ?
Have a good day.
Mon système:Beosound 4, Beolab 3, Beolab 11
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lloydern
- Joined on 06-27-2007
- Oslo, Norway
- Posts 110
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Tanks to "jjcox" for the great and thourogh review of your experiences with Beolab 11. Me myself have the same setup with lab 6000 and lab 4000 as rear, but with the Beovsn 3-32.
I miss some more depth in the bass and some more sting to the rest. I hope that Beolab 11 might be what I've been missing. And without getting in a fight with my neighbours.
And of course...it's looks stunning.
A question for "jjcox"...have you seen some more movies yet? And can you say a bit more regarding the impact on lower sound effects like explosions, thunder, car-noise..etc....Can you feel a big difference with the 11?
Lloydern
Anything but Beo isn't an option...3-32, Overture, DVD1, Beomedia, V8000, lab 4000, 2 x lab 2000, 2 x lab 6000 & lab 11.
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jjcox
- Joined on 05-31-2009
- Midden-Brabant, the Netherlands
- Posts 61
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Hello Lloydern,
Yes, I've seen some more movies now. In movies, it delivers just what you describe: some more depth in the bass and more sting to the rest. It all sounds a lot more 'full'. Thunder, explosions and stuff do offer a lot more 'oomph'. I noticed last week when I was in the kitchen and the kids were in the living room watching 'Earth' (a movie with a lot of breaking glaciers, running elephants and more nature noise) that the subwoofer really is very present. Also, I (don't tell anyone!) like to watch a movie with my feet resting on the table. Since the BL11 is in action, I can FEEL the explosions in the table. The table vibrates, which it never did before.
Nevertheless, it won't break any walls. The BL2 can do that. But it is very present in movies and enhances the experience a lot.
Joeri
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lloydern
- Joined on 06-27-2007
- Oslo, Norway
- Posts 110
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Thanks for reply...
Sounds like it's just what I am looking for. Perfect answer :-)!
Actually my wife has granted me a no-more-beo-warning that's valid for the year 2010. So I recon this christmas should do just fine...
Lloydern...7 months to go
Anything but Beo isn't an option...3-32, Overture, DVD1, Beomedia, V8000, lab 4000, 2 x lab 2000, 2 x lab 6000 & lab 11.
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Dave
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Brisbane, Australia
- Posts 2,328
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I wish that ::
1. it was available in the older aluminium colours B&O had (i.e. pearly green, sky blue, pearly red, etc)
2. that i could afford one to add to the 6000's at home... :(
“Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of intelligent effort.”
Your health and well-being comes first and fore-most.
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elephant
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Melbourne, Australia
- Posts 2,215
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lloydern: my wife has granted me a no-more-beo-warning
is there a quid pro quo ?
- no more dresses
- no more shoes
- no more bags
silly me, of course not
First B&O (1976) was a Beogram 1500 ... latest (2011) change has been to couple the BL11 with the BL6Ks *sounds superb*
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TripEnglish
- Joined on 10-27-2007
- America
- Posts 1,595
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gumboots:
ROFL.
There is scarcely anything in this world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little more cheaply. The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey. - John Ruskin
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Dave
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Brisbane, Australia
- Posts 2,328
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TripEnglish:
“Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of intelligent effort.”
Your health and well-being comes first and fore-most.
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elephant
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Melbourne, Australia
- Posts 2,215
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gumboots:
It is the juxtaposition that is funny to some readers.
"gumboots" is a very American phrase - the English use "wellies" or "wellingtons" to describe the same footwear.
So to have some one from France using a very colloquial brand name for a type of shoe as their internet handle seems amusing.
On the forum there is a thread about why people have chosen their name/handle and/or avatar.
One could ask Trip why he is such a fan of Boston Legal :-)
Or what is an elephant doing in Australia :D
First B&O (1976) was a Beogram 1500 ... latest (2011) change has been to couple the BL11 with the BL6Ks *sounds superb*
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moxxey
- Joined on 04-14-2007
- South West, UK
- Posts 2,360
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gumboots:
I think TripEnglish didn't understand you. He's foreign, you know.
Don't worry about it. We understand you :)
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Karel Uyttendaele
- Joined on 05-19-2007
- Aalst, Belgium
- Posts 682
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Guess what ;-) There's a BL11 between my BL8000's and Beovision 3 :-)
The beauty is that the BL11 breaths life into the 8000's.. There's bass.. Lot's of it now... but in a very very subtle way. The mids and high are coming out stronger... Hell.. have to relisten to my whole music collection now! Bummer!
The race for quality has no finish line- so technically, it's more like a death march.
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steph
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- France
- Posts 612
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Hey Karel,
what about your BL2 ?
And please, post at least one photo !
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Dave
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Brisbane, Australia
- Posts 2,328
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dilznik:
I'm impressed. Not impressed enough to pay $2800AUD for it, but still impressed.
WOW is that all it costs here? I'll be saving up by the looks of things! :D
“Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of intelligent effort.”
Your health and well-being comes first and fore-most.
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dilznik
- Joined on 09-19-2007
- Posts 357
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Dave:
WOW is that all it costs here? I'll be saving up by the looks of things! :D
I think if you can somehow get one from Europe, at the current exchange rate it should be about $2000ish AUD.
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Karel Uyttendaele
- Joined on 05-19-2007
- Aalst, Belgium
- Posts 682
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@steph: I didn't have a BL2 :-) Was on test for a weekend :-) But.. The BL11 is a nitfy thing! Brings out the full potential of the BL8000's! And... to B&O's standards good value for money
I'll post pictures from the moment I have the cabling sorted out... It's a fetish :-)
The race for quality has no finish line- so technically, it's more like a death march.
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Daniel
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Svinarp, Sweden
- Posts 1,284
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dilznik:
Dave:
WOW is that all it costs here? I'll be saving up by the looks of things! :D
I think if you can somehow get one from Europe, at the current exchange rate it should be about $2000ish AUD.
Nah, the cheapest in the old world is about $ 2 400 AUD (black or white), other colours are $ 2 600 AUD. Wall stand is $ 265 AUD.
Beovision LX5500, BeoCord V6000, BeoSound 9000, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 3500, BeoLab 2000, BeoVox1, BeoCom 6000, Form1, LightControl 1
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