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  • 11-07-2011 4:51 AM In reply to

    • yachadm
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    Re: Flash your B&O!

    beopuig:

    Newer systems  probably sound better....

    But you're wrong! Newer systems only sound better because all the components are fresh. Restore a vintage system, with fresh components where required, and it will outperform a new system every time! For the purposes of honest comparison, in both of them there are now fresh components, but the circuit design in vintage equipment is so much more conducive to good sound.

    My restored BM3400 will outperform a new BS9000 or anything else, in terms of what the ears prefer with the eyes closed. I embarass my customers every day (and make them smile).

    Menahem

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  • 11-07-2011 8:39 AM In reply to

    Re: Flash your B&O!

    beopuig:

    Søren Hammer:

    beopuig:

    I totally love your vintage oriented systems! Is it two pairs of S-60/S-75's you are using? Smile

     

    Thanks Soren. They are S60.
    Maybe I am wrong, but for me the actual charm of the brand are the vintage systems. This is like good wine, in general, the older,  the better, provided that they are from good years. Newer systems  probably sound better, have more fancy gadgets and stat-of-the-art applications,  but they lack this special taste and character  of vintage wine/systems. I think that they even have a soul!

    Older (unserviced) systems may even have their own life Big Smile

    [Warning: Pro-vintage oriented content] older Hi-fi may be of a better design than today. Think of all that "Made in China" stuff with tiny little surface mounted components and they tend to save money on their designs. The older stuff is repairable and reliable, and the designers/engineers put way much time into the product than often seen today.

    Beocenter 9300, Beogam CD50, Beocord 5500, Beomaster 3400, Beomaster 4400, 2 Beogram 4000, Beomaster 8000, 2 beogram 8002, Beovox S-75, Beovox MS150.2, Beovox RL6000, Beovox S-35, Beomaster 6000, 2 Beocord 9000, Beocord 8004, Beocord 5000, Form 1, 2x Beolink 1000, Beo4, MX3500, LS4500. Born 1993.

  • 11-08-2011 9:28 AM In reply to

    Re: Flash your B&O!

    yachadm:

    beopuig:

    Newer systems  probably sound better....

    But you're wrong! Newer systems only sound better because all the components are fresh. Restore a vintage system, with fresh components where required, and it will outperform a new system every time! For the purposes of honest comparison, in both of them there are now fresh components, but the circuit design in vintage equipment is so much more conducive to good sound.

    My restored BM3400 will outperform a new BS9000 or anything else, in terms of what the ears prefer with the eyes closed. I embarass my customers every day (and make them smile).

    Menahem

    Very early on in my membership of 'Beoworld', I raised the whole question of whether vintage B&O sounded better than the current crop of products (excluding the BL5 and, arguably, the BL9 from that discussion).  My experience of listening to an old BC 4000 from the 70s clearly indicated just how good old B&O is in comparison to some of the more modern pieces.  The responses from others on this site clearly indicated I was not alone! Here is a link to the thread. 

     http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/t/26042.aspx

    Since then, nothing I have heard has changed my initial impression.  Purely from a sound quality point of view, very little of the current range compares favourably with some of the great older products available for a fraction of the price.  I appreciate the design purity of the BL4000 and BL 8000/8002 immensely and indeed, would like to own them, but whether they are better than my P45s, S45.2s or Mc120.2s - well, that's another story.

    Cleve  

  • 11-08-2011 11:40 AM In reply to

    Re: Flash your B&O!

    That is a good thread Smile

    Found a Beocenter 9300 at a Red Cross shop, I just couln't pass it up. Almost mint condition and everything works, it even included a Beo4 remote! I have exeeded my storage capacity limit, some of my Beolab 8000 system must go [:'(]

    Beocenter 9300, Beogam CD50, Beocord 5500, Beomaster 3400, Beomaster 4400, 2 Beogram 4000, Beomaster 8000, 2 beogram 8002, Beovox S-75, Beovox MS150.2, Beovox RL6000, Beovox S-35, Beomaster 6000, 2 Beocord 9000, Beocord 8004, Beocord 5000, Form 1, 2x Beolink 1000, Beo4, MX3500, LS4500. Born 1993.

  • 11-09-2011 2:42 AM In reply to

    • beopuig
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    Re: Flash your B&O!

    Cleviebaby:

    yachadm:

    beopuig:

    Newer systems  probably sound better....

    But you're wrong! Newer systems only sound better because all the components are fresh. Restore a vintage system, with fresh components where required, and it will outperform a new system every time! For the purposes of honest comparison, in both of them there are now fresh components, but the circuit design in vintage equipment is so much more conducive to good sound.

    My restored BM3400 will outperform a new BS9000 or anything else, in terms of what the ears prefer with the eyes closed. I embarass my customers every day (and make them smile).

    Menahem

     

    Very early on in my membership of 'Beoworld', I raised the whole question of whether vintage B&O sounded better than the current crop of products (excluding the BL5 and, arguably, the BL9 from that discussion).  My experience of listening to an old BC 4000 from the 70s clearly indicated just how good old B&O is in comparison to some of the more modern pieces.  The responses from others on this site clearly indicated I was not alone! Here is a link to the thread. 

     http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/t/26042.aspx

    Since then, nothing I have heard has changed my initial impression.  Purely from a sound quality point of view, very little of the current range compares favourably with some of the great older products available for a fraction of the price.  I appreciate the design purity of the BL4000 and BL 8000/8002 immensely and indeed, would like to own them, but whether they are better than my P45s, S45.2s or Mc120.2s - well, that's another story.

    Cleve  

     

    You are  right Cleve. This impression wast just confirmed last week when I visited a friend of mine  and I discovered he bought recently a Beosound 4 (2100 eur). The touch was so plasticky,the weight of the whole system so light, the assembling so fragile and vulnerable... definitevely, I thought, this has no soul!

  • 11-13-2011 12:52 PM In reply to

    • Guy1680
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    Re: Flash your B&O!

    I've been permitted a little bit of shelf space in the lounge for items that would otherwise be in their boxes!

  • 11-13-2011 3:04 PM In reply to

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    Re: Flash your B&O!

    That's a great idea! It's like an in-house B&O musem display. I've often thought of doing something like that with all of my old B&O land-line telephones that I no longer use.

     

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  • 11-13-2011 4:57 PM In reply to

    • henrik
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    Re: Flash your B&O!

    Part of my livingroom system.

  • 11-13-2011 7:45 PM In reply to

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    Henrik that system still looks so fresh even to my iPhone generation friends!  Wow that design was so ahead of its time - lovely, awesome in fact!

  • 11-13-2011 9:56 PM In reply to

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    Re: Flash your B&O!

    Paul Winn:
    iPhone generation friends

    My white BeoSystem 4500 always wows this crowd. Even with just pictures! The all say; "That's a stereo?!"- mouths agape.

    Cool

    Evan

     

  • 11-14-2011 4:48 AM In reply to

    Re: Flash your B&O!

    @henrik

    Kate Bush The Dreaming - great album!

     

     

  • 11-14-2011 11:58 AM In reply to

    • henrik
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    Re: Flash your B&O!

    futurist:

    @henrik

    Kate Bush The Dreaming - great album!

     

     

    The best there is! :)

  • 11-18-2011 4:42 PM In reply to

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    Re: Flash your B&O!

    hi , finally i could afford some b&o stuff ! , here they are :) maybe not very posh but beautifull for me and they're my own b&o.

     

    Enjoy :p

     

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    Cabinet 4068

  • 11-18-2011 8:42 PM In reply to

    Re: Flash your B&O!

    First B&O (1976) was a Beogram 1500 ... latest (2011) change has been to couple the BL11 with the BL6Ks *sounds superb*

  • 11-19-2011 7:20 AM In reply to

    Re: Flash your B&O!

    @ Fakayata

     

    Great products you have there, I have them all myself. The Beomaster 6000/Beocord 8000 series is a great match and that 4400 shure will outperform many other receivers Smile

    Beocenter 9300, Beogam CD50, Beocord 5500, Beomaster 3400, Beomaster 4400, 2 Beogram 4000, Beomaster 8000, 2 beogram 8002, Beovox S-75, Beovox MS150.2, Beovox RL6000, Beovox S-35, Beomaster 6000, 2 Beocord 9000, Beocord 8004, Beocord 5000, Form 1, 2x Beolink 1000, Beo4, MX3500, LS4500. Born 1993.

  • 11-19-2011 7:29 AM In reply to

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    Re: Flash your B&O!

    Thanks!

    Yes they are really brilliant in both look and sound , now only need new speakers :) considering M70 or s45 ( 3 way ones ) to match with BM4400

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    Cabinet 4068

  • 11-19-2011 8:28 AM In reply to

    Re: Flash your B&O!

    I would reccomend Beovox S-75's, I am using a pair and they are really good. Replaced all capacitors in the crossovers, it sounded like a blanket was removed from the speaker! A recap is definitely a good thing to do with these old speakers, be they M-70's or S-45's(which in my opinion is a good speaker but they are bass light and too weak for the 4400) Smile

    Beocenter 9300, Beogam CD50, Beocord 5500, Beomaster 3400, Beomaster 4400, 2 Beogram 4000, Beomaster 8000, 2 beogram 8002, Beovox S-75, Beovox MS150.2, Beovox RL6000, Beovox S-35, Beomaster 6000, 2 Beocord 9000, Beocord 8004, Beocord 5000, Form 1, 2x Beolink 1000, Beo4, MX3500, LS4500. Born 1993.

  • 11-19-2011 8:35 AM In reply to

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    Re: Flash your B&O!

    oh ok :)

    im after a pair of s75 however the lady dont want to post them and want me to travel 200 miles to pick them up, however i also find a niace pair of bv 3800

     

     

     

    a little test , unfortunately bm4400 paired with some pc speakers via fron jack ... didnt know they can do such good work, now i know what bm4400 is capable to do :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0aNZ_-ce3g 

    Søren Hammer:

    I would reccomend Beovox S-75's, I am using a pair and they are really good. Replaced all capacitors in the crossovers, it sounded like a blanket was removed from the speaker! A recap is definitely a good thing to do with these old speakers, be they M-70's or S-45's(which in my opinion is a good speaker but they are bass light and too weak for the 4400) Smile

     

    Beomaster 4400, 2 Beomaster 6000, Beocord 8004, Beocord 8002, Beolink 1000, 3x Beo4, Terminal 6000, Beovision LX6000, Beovision AV9000, Pair of Beovox s75, Beovision Avant 32 DVD, Beovox Redline 60.2, Beogram 1100, Beovision MX1500, Beovision 3, B&O Cabinet 4068

    Cabinet 4068

  • 11-20-2011 9:13 AM In reply to

    • Chris
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    Re: Flash your B&O!

    Whether its posh or not, if it b and o it's b and o!

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  • 11-20-2011 10:44 AM In reply to

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    Re: Flash your B&O!

    Just got a black painted BG1202 set up next to the Beosystem 7000 on the Attyca 1.

    Listening to the Boss right now...

     

    Ralf

    My Beo: Beosound 3000, Beolab 4000, Beo 4 DVD,  Beolab 5000/Beomaster 5000, Beovox S45.2 with Stands, Beosystem 7000 black with Beolink 7000, Beolink 1000, F1000 (3 cubes), Beovox 5000, Beovox 3000, Attyca 1.

  • 11-20-2011 11:13 AM In reply to

    Re: Flash your B&O!

    Looks great Ralf! Black painted Beogram, did you do that yourself?

    B&O item 1, B&O item 2, B&O item 3,...................B&O item 735

    Beovirus? What's that?

  • 11-20-2011 11:31 AM In reply to

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    Re: Flash your B&O!

    No, I was lucky enough to buy it like that!

    Best regards
    Ralf

    My Beo: Beosound 3000, Beolab 4000, Beo 4 DVD,  Beolab 5000/Beomaster 5000, Beovox S45.2 with Stands, Beosystem 7000 black with Beolink 7000, Beolink 1000, F1000 (3 cubes), Beovox 5000, Beovox 3000, Attyca 1.

  • 11-20-2011 12:04 PM In reply to

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    kallasr:

    Just got a black painted BG1202 set up next to the Beosystem 7000 on the Attyca 1.

    Listening to the Boss right now...

    Nice! Looks like the next best thing after a black Beogram 7000 to suit that system.

    Copy of Nebraska spotted. I'll need to dig up mine and play Atlantic City...

    -mika

  • 11-20-2011 1:01 PM In reply to

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    Re: Flash your B&O!

    tournedos:

    kallasr:

    Just got a black painted BG1202 set up next to the Beosystem 7000 on the Attyca 1.

    Listening to the Boss right now...

    Nice! Looks like the next best thing after a black Beogram 7000 to suit that system.

    Copy of Nebraska spotted. I'll need to dig up mine and play Atlantic City...

    Very nice indeed.  This morning I listened to Darkness on the Edge of Town in the garage, and last night listened to Tunnel of Love in the guest bedroom.

    Perhaps after football this evening I'll get Born to Run out and listen on the main system.

    Current primary listening:  SMMC20EN -> BG4002 -> BM4000 -> Beovox M70

     

  • 11-22-2011 12:19 PM In reply to

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    Re: Flash your B&O!

     

    Jacob Jensen T10

    Vogels iPad Mount with iPad being used as remote control

    Beotalk 1100

     

    BeoSound 8 - connected via Airport Express

     

     

    BeoCom 4

     

    Lutron Rania IR Dual dimmers 

     

    B&O A9 Keyring 

     

    Beolit 600

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