hi,

what is the difference between the beomaster 3000 versus the beomaster 3000-2. i've read about technical improvements?!? which one is more rare and more worth? i guess the beomaster 3000 is more rare.

thanks for your advice

dario

Theres really not much difference at all. Price-wise, there should be no difference. If you are looking to buy one, I wouldnt be concerned which one you get, just get the best cosmetic condition you can. They are very reliable with the exception of the switches on the front that oxidise but a bit of contact cleaner or normally just some use and a bit of rapid switching sorts them out. Lovely bits of kit.

I noticed some subtle differences in circuitry between the 3000 schematic that I downloaded and what I found in the 3000-2 I have.Namely a few different capacitor values.Very minimal though,The engineers probably just refined their circuit design a bit.Someone with more experience than I will likely post also.

beaker:

Theres really not much difference at all. Price-wise, there should be no difference. If you are looking to buy one, I wouldnt be concerned which one you get, just get the best cosmetic condition you can. They are very reliable with the exception of the switches on the front that oxidise but a bit of contact cleaner or normally just some use and a bit of rapid switching sorts them out. Lovely bits of kit.

thanks for your advise. the beomaster 3000-2 is still a design classic and in the permanent collection of moma. ;-)

pebmrb:

I noticed some subtle differences in circuitry between the 3000 schematic that I downloaded and what I found in the 3000-2 I have.Namely a few different capacitor values.Very minimal though,The engineers probably just refined their circuit design a bit.Someone with more experience than I will likely post also.

interesting that b&o renamed the beomaster 3000 after update in beomaster 3000-2. according to the article in beocentral are the differences minor.

http://www.beocentral.com/products/bm3000-1

http://www.beocentral.com/products/bm3000-2

superdario:

interesting that b&o renamed the beomaster 3000 after update in beomaster 3000-2. according to the article in beocentral are the differences minor.

If you are looking for the 'old' Beomaster online, pay attention to the model numbers. 2402 is the one you want.

The 'newer' Beomaster 3000's (basically BM2000's with remote receiver added) have model numbers 29xx.

Stoney3K:

superdario:

interesting that b&o renamed the beomaster 3000 after update in beomaster 3000-2. according to the article in beocentral are the differences minor.

If you are looking for the 'old' Beomaster online, pay attention to the model numbers. 2402 is the one you want.

The 'newer' Beomaster 3000's (basically BM2000's with remote receiver added) have model numbers 29xx.

 

He is asking for the older Beomaster 3000 (slide rule model, similar to Beomaster 4000 and 4400) from the 70's

This is off-subject from your question but I was hoping you might be able to help me. I'm getting desperate.

I am replacing the 3 main caps in my beomaster 300-2 type 2402 and after having two of them un-wired (1 of the 3,000 and the 5,000) for almost 25 years, I am stumped on connecting them up to my new caps.

If you have looked at that area in yours you will see a lot of wires going to the main power cap, the 5,000uf one. The group the wires into clumps of like 4 to 6 wires and between that group and the ones going to my 3,000 uf output cap I have forgotten how they were combined.

I have the schematic but as you know it is very small and discolored slightly and have had a tough time determining whhich group of wires went where as they mix the colors quite a bit and don't seem to pay attention to pos/neg wires identification.

I was wondering if you had a picture of that area of your beomaster of it you could take one for me?

Ideally a photo looking down on the terminals so I could see the grouping of wires to the terminals would make short order of this.

I realize this is a lot to ask and I would be more then delighted to share something with you that you might need.

It seems like you might be a DIY guy too and I have some Cardas Quadlectric solder that goes for about $50/pound. I'd be hppy to send you a length of 10 feet or so for you delicate soldering needs. I have many parts and wires, and if you are interested, I probably have a part or two you might need. Just let me know.

Thanks again and sorry to bother you with this. My Beogram 4004 arrives today. I bought it from someone who just got it back from re-conditioning tuneup at B&O and it is in near mint condition so I am really aching to get my beomaster back up and running.