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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 02-20-2009 7:54 PM by leogenghis. 27 replies.
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02-09-2009 5:07 PM
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halid
- Joined on 02-19-2008
- Posts 124
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Hi, I am thinking of upgrading my 7-40 MKIII to a 50" or 65" but since it is a lot of money involved I would like to check with you guys if anyone have heard any rumours of new, bigger TVs ? I know of course the 7-40 MK IV is arriving, but have anyone some information about the bigger models ?
Would really appreciate any hints, rumours and of course best of all - facts... ;-)
Regards
Hans
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bayerische
- Joined on 12-11-2007
- Helsinki, Finland
- Posts 3,593
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There's a 103" coming... A perfect TV for a recession.
-Andreas
BLab5, BLab5000, BLab8000, BV10, BS9000, BS3, Beo5, Beo4, BLink1000, BLink5000, BLink7000, A2, A8, Form2
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Xseries
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Hampshire
- Posts 433
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The expense!
The TV, the new house (estate agents fees, stamp duty, tax etc) or an extension to house it - I am not sure I have a wall big enough at present!
Brian
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Daniel
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Svinarp, Sweden
- Posts 1,284
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Xseries:
The TV ... I am not sure I have a wall big enough at present!
Not many has a wall big enough for a BV4-103!
Beovision LX5500, BeoCord V6000, BeoSound 9000, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 3500, BeoLab 2000, BeoVox1, BeoCom 6000, Form1, LightControl 1
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DiaBandO
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Limburg
- Posts 124
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Daniel:
Xseries:
The TV ... I am not sure I have a wall big enough at present!
Not many has a wall big enough for a BV4-103!
You don't need to, this size TV is a wall itself
Just because it's mellow it doesn't mean it's less evil....
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meandmyshadow
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Posts 339
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PierreR:
I know that B&O is working on a BV7 - 55", but i dont think that it will arrive this year.
It should arrive by November-December.
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bayerische
- Joined on 12-11-2007
- Helsinki, Finland
- Posts 3,593
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kokomo:
And now Philips has announced a 21:9 screen ratio for TV's. That's good then, more 'must have' innovations!
Actually I understand that "standard", films are made in that format, not 16:9. So it makes sense to me.
-Andreas
BLab5, BLab5000, BLab8000, BV10, BS9000, BS3, Beo5, Beo4, BLink1000, BLink5000, BLink7000, A2, A8, Form2
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Daniel
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Svinarp, Sweden
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I do understand it also. It looks funny with a flatscreen 16:9 with black bars over and under the picture.
Beovision LX5500, BeoCord V6000, BeoSound 9000, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 3500, BeoLab 2000, BeoVox1, BeoCom 6000, Form1, LightControl 1
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Kokomo
- Joined on 08-21-2007
- Spain
- Posts 618
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bayerische:
kokomo:
And now Philips has announced a 21:9 screen ratio for TV's. That's good then, more 'must have' innovations!
Actually I understand that "standard", films are made in that format, not 16:9. So it makes sense to me.
Yes they are, I was just highlighting the fact that just when one level is reached, another comes along which necessitates TV replacement.
Might have helped if 21:9 had been adopted earlier instead of 16:9!
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bayerische
- Joined on 12-11-2007
- Helsinki, Finland
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kokomo:
bayerische:
kokomo:
And now Philips has announced a 21:9 screen ratio for TV's. That's good then, more 'must have' innovations!
Actually I understand that "standard", films are made in that format, not 16:9. So it makes sense to me.
Yes they are, I was just highlighting the fact that just when one level is reached, another comes along which necessitates TV replacement.
Might have helped if 21:9 had been adopted earlier instead of 16:9!
You are right, I for one, never understood the 16:9 format... Movies were never made in this format. I think it was judged upon our eyes field of view... (16:9)
But you know, at some point you have to think of something "new" to keep selling stuff.
-Andreas
BLab5, BLab5000, BLab8000, BV10, BS9000, BS3, Beo5, Beo4, BLink1000, BLink5000, BLink7000, A2, A8, Form2
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Greg
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- London, UK
- Posts 109
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bayerische: You are right, I for one, never understood the 16:9 format... Movies were never made in this format. I think it was judged upon our eyes field of view... (16:9)
Actually, I strongly suspect 16:9 was chosen as it was the halfway point (=compromise) between TV (=4:3, or 12:9 if you like) and Cinema (=2.39:1, or 21:9). So there is some kind of logic there. And, of course, content made recently for TV is 16:9, as are IMAX sections on eg Dark Night Blu-ray.
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tournedos
- Joined on 12-08-2007
- Finland
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Greg:
Actually, I strongly suspect 16:9 was chosen as it was the halfway point (=compromise) between TV (=4:3, or 12:9 if you like) and Cinema (=2.39:1, or 21:9). So there is some kind of logic there. And, of course, content made recently for TV is 16:9, as are IMAX sections on eg Dark Night Blu-ray.
I've forgotten the actual reason, but believe it had something to do with backwards compatibility in digital video processing - i.e just a technical reason, nothing deeper in there.
Also, the choice was made long before flat panels became a commodity. 16:9 was already a hard aspect ratio to implement for CRTs, wider than that would've been just silly. Since the deflection angle doesn't get any bigger - I believe anything more than 110° was a curiosity - you can think the wide screen CRTs as just larger 4:3 tubes with sections cut off from each horizontal edge. Imagine the depth of a 42" 16:9 CRT, and people commonly have panels larger than that today!
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halid
- Joined on 02-19-2008
- Posts 124
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What do you guys think about the future ? LCD seems to take over more and more from plasma. If I buy a 4-65, will I be disappointed in a few yeards, not about the size of course, but the choiche of plasma. What is more exactly the differences between LCD and plasma by the way ?
Has anyone seen the 4-65 in action ?
Hans.
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Ahmet1
- Joined on 10-15-2007
- Posts 28
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Halid,
If you consider the 65", i would wait a "little bit". Panasonic has just launched a new model of their 65" with industry-leading specs like 7000 grey-tones, 16 bit video-processing and a contrast-ratio of 60 000:1. A kuro-killer! (but it seems that kuro is going to oblivion anyway)! My guess is that B&O will adopt this panel but I dont know when..
Ahmet
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Puncher
- Joined on 03-27-2007
- Nr. Durham, NE England.
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If you become manufacturer of the best panels in the world (even if by default) would you sell them on to a competitor (albeit in a different market segment) or would you supply them with "last years" model and retain the "best plasma available" moniker for yourself
I wonder how Panasonic might position themselves if Pioneer do pack in.
Generally speaking, you aren't learning much if your lips are moving.
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TripEnglish
- Joined on 10-27-2007
- America
- Posts 1,595
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Ahmet1:
Halid,
If you consider the 65", i would wait a "little bit". Panasonic has just launched a new model of their 65" with industry-leading specs like 7000 grey-tones, 16 bit video-processing and a contrast-ratio of 60 000:1. A kuro-killer! (but it seems that kuro is going to oblivion anyway)! My guess is that B&O will adopt this panel but I dont know when..
Ahmet
Our new distribution model makes this a much more likely reality. No more warehouses with aging BeoVisions. Certainly don't know about specific panel choices, but the ability to incorporate OEM innovations quicker was a specific concern for the new CEO.
There is scarcely anything in this world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little more cheaply. The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey. - John Ruskin
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halid
- Joined on 02-19-2008
- Posts 124
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Trip, interesting comment. If you would make a best guess, how long do you think until we see a new panel in the 50" and 65" ?
/ Hans
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Dude1
- Joined on 09-18-2007
- London
- Posts 189
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There will be a 7-50 (ish) later this year with LED tech for backlighting. This will also be incorporated (as far as its know at this stage) with the BV10 - unless this goes totally OLED... not decided yet.
There are at least 6+ new products in pipelines currently - not all Bangvisions... so watch this space.
Product development at Struer is now at an unprecedented pace, never seen before. Focus on quality, innovation and technology.
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Ignace
- Joined on 03-30-2007
- Moderator - NL
- Posts 2,749
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BeoVision 4 103"
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Beobird
- Joined on 04-19-2007
- Netherlands
- Posts 506
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halid:
What do you guys think about the future ? LCD seems to take over more and more from plasma. If I buy a 4-65, will I be disappointed in a few yeards, not about the size of course, but the choiche of plasma. What is more exactly the differences between LCD and plasma by the way ?
Has anyone seen the 4-65 in action ?
Hans.
The image from a good plasma is "warmer" and more natural then from a lcd. Lcd tv's have got "harder" colours, that will look very good on cartoons and games, but they just can't beat plasma on natural images (yet). In the past there was a huge difference in power consumption, but they're now equal.
I saw the 4-65" playing Ice Age on a demo with the Beolab 10, 5 and 9, and it blew me out of the room. Very good sound, combined to the best image you can get. Wonderfull, but also very pricey...
We Can't Get Enough B&O Stuff...
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