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  • 08-15-2008 9:38 AM In reply to

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    Re: New products 2008/09

    Dude1:

    Oh dear, we are all feeling a little unkind today. Lets all be more serious about it....Big Smile

     While there is a lot of speculation in this thread, which has indeed put a smile on my dial this morning, let me tell you some facts.

    • The BangSound 5 is going to be a cracker.  It is an important piece of the Bang line up and the fact it has been held back underlines this fact.  There are many people making sure that this is going to be quite special.
    • The BangVision 7 will be avaliable soon (ish) with no DVD player if required.
    • Bang cares about you, its customers, whether in DK or otherwise, old or young. It is listening.
    • Some prices may drop, some may increase.  Increases are beng fought.
    • Give the CEO a bit of time.....he's new.
    • China, only some (SOME) small components are pre assembled there for mass requirements. A TV is made there too....forget the one.....8 or something (But its not bad..is it?)  Bang will not be leaving Struer or DK in a hurry thank you all very much.
    • Smile.

    Oh ok, only small components in China!! wait and see. That does put a smile on my dial as you put it!

  • 08-15-2008 10:50 AM In reply to

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    Re: New products 2008/09

    Dude1:

    Oh dear, we are all feeling a little unkind today. Lets all be more serious about it....Big Smile

     While there is a lot of speculation in this thread, which has indeed put a smile on my dial this morning, let me tell you some facts.

    • The BangSound 5 is going to be a cracker.  It is an important piece of the Bang line up and the fact it has been held back underlines this fact.  There are many people making sure that this is going to be quite special.
    • The BangVision 7 will be avaliable soon (ish) with no DVD player if required.
    • Bang cares about you, its customers, whether in DK or otherwise, old or young. It is listening.
    • Some prices may drop, some may increase.  Increases are beng fought.
    • Give the CEO a bit of time.....he's new.
    • China, only some (SOME) small components are pre assembled there for mass requirements. A TV is made there too....forget the one.....8 or something (But its not bad..is it?)  Bang will not be leaving Struer or DK in a hurry thank you all very much.
    • Smile.

    GO BANGERS! Big Smile

     

    I feel the same as bang boy, relax, and look forward to what comes to us next. Wink 

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    Your health and well-being comes first and fore-most.

     

     

  • 08-15-2008 12:49 PM In reply to

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    Beovision 7-55 with Beolab 7-4, 9s and 4000s

    Beovision 10-40 with Beolab 1s and 6000s

    Beosound 1, 5, 2000, and 3000

    Beotime, Beotalk, Beocoms

  • 08-15-2008 12:50 PM In reply to

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    What is the BangVision 7?

    Beovision 7-55 with Beolab 7-4, 9s and 4000s

    Beovision 10-40 with Beolab 1s and 6000s

    Beosound 1, 5, 2000, and 3000

    Beotime, Beotalk, Beocoms

  • 08-15-2008 1:28 PM In reply to

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    That's dudesque for BeoVision.

  • 08-15-2008 2:20 PM In reply to

    Re: New products 2008/09

    Make all products more universally compatible! And B&O should start to see more money rolling in. People want a freedom of choice and not buying something from B&O and realized that this can only go with another product from B&O except if you get an adapter from them. Adapter= Signal loss= Inconvenience= Conspiracy theories= Bad Word of mouth. Consumers are way more educated than before and yes I am talking about the older generations and people with high disposable income too. The technological age has heralded a whole new way of purchasing electronics, it's no longer the 90s way of having lots of cash and buying stylish products.. Make B&O green and more intellectual. Price was never an issue with B&O, it's just the way the brand was still marketed like it was still in the 90s. Being flashy is no longer cool enough, people are now expected to know about their carbon footprint, and the story behind every product they purchase. It is now consumerism with a conscience. 
  • 08-15-2008 3:33 PM In reply to

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    Re: New products 2008/09

    Great point! But i think Bang is already one of the most green electronics manufacturers avaliable today.

    • Bang extensively uses recyclable aluminium in most products.
    • Bang uses genuine glass in its televisions. Recently it made a change in anti reflective coatings to ensure the process was still environmentally sound.
    • Bang uses the cleanest anodisation process avaliable for aluminium products.
    • Bang designs all its products to fit in with all environments and to be as beautiful as possible so the product is welcome in a home for a long period of time. This is supported by a backup with parts for 10+ years after the products life has finished.
    • The Avant, BV5 and BV9 use wood in their manufacture, this is biodegradable and recyclable.
    • All Bang products have complied with ROHS since its inception.
    • Bang uses only A+ panels in LCD and (and picture tubes) which have longer life spans and less pixel loss than other panels.
    • All Bang components are highest grade to ensure longevity.
    • Bang encourages servicing and long product lifes with its products.
    • Bang products generally consume less electricity than competitor products.
    • BangVisions have light sensors to adjust picture brightness  - which helps reduce power consumption when not required.
    • Bang doesnt manufacture a huge product line up, therefore manufacturing waste is much smaller - (and carbon footprint)

    I think when you choose Bang, you are really making a great choice in electronics today.

  • 08-15-2008 3:48 PM In reply to

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    Re: New products 2008/09

    Dude1:

    Great point! But i think Bang is already one of the most green electronics manufacturers avaliable today.

    • Bang extensively uses recyclable aluminium in most products.
    • Bang uses genuine glass in its televisions. Recently it made a change in anti reflective coatings to ensure the process was still environmentally sound.
    • Bang uses the cleanest anodisation process avaliable for aluminium products.
    • Bang designs all its products to fit in with all environments and to be as beautiful as possible so the product is welcome in a home for a long period of time. This is supported by a backup with parts for 10+ years after the products life has finished.
    • The Avant, BV5 and BV9 use wood in their manufacture, this is biodegradable and recyclable.
    • All Bang products have complied with ROHS since its inception.
    • Bang uses only A+ panels in LCD and (and picture tubes) which have longer life spans and less pixel loss than other panels.
    • All Bang components are highest grade to ensure longevity.
    • Bang encourages servicing and long product lifes with its products.
    • Bang products generally consume less electricity than competitor products.
    • BangVisions have light sensors to adjust picture brightness  - which helps reduce power consumption when not required.
    • Bang doesnt manufacture a huge product line up, therefore manufacturing waste is much smaller - (and carbon footprint)

    I think when you choose Bang, you are really making a great choice in electronics today.

    All products from any brand have had to be RHOS compliant other wise its almost impossible to sell it

    Highest grade components- well its the same components used in samsung or panasonic- B&o dont last longer!

    Consume less electricity!!  we are getting low on good ;points- nothing to support that either!

    grade a panels!!! samsung dont make grade a panels

    many brands have light sensors to adjus picture brightness and the power savings are next to minimal

     

  • 08-15-2008 5:00 PM In reply to

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    Re: New products 2008/09

    Dude1:
    • The Avant, BV5 and BV9 use wood in their manufacture, this is biodegradable and recyclable

    And some of the Lab speakers, such as the 7.2

  • 08-16-2008 10:58 AM In reply to

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    Bang & Olufsen have found it too expensive to compete with the "Beo" prefix and have outsourced Prefix Production to China; hence "BangVision." Bang & Olufsen assures us that it is only purchasing the highest quality prefixes, though, which will still be on the fronts of words long after competing prefixes have stopped working and left only root words. Globalization. Go figure. 

    There is scarcely anything in this world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little more cheaply. The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey. - John Ruskin

  • 08-16-2008 11:00 AM In reply to

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    TripEnglish:
    Bang & Olufsen have found it too expensive to compete with the "Beo" prefix and have outsourced Prefix Production to China; hence "BangVision." Bang & Olufsen assures us that it is only purchasing the highest quality prefixes, though, which will still be on the fronts of words long after competing prefixes have stopped working and left only root words. Globalization. Go figure. 

     

    LOL

    Beovision 7-55 with Beolab 7-4, 9s and 4000s

    Beovision 10-40 with Beolab 1s and 6000s

    Beosound 1, 5, 2000, and 3000

    Beotime, Beotalk, Beocoms

  • 08-16-2008 11:41 AM In reply to

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    I still haven't heard all the new products mentioned. Has anyone spoken to the sheep?

    There is scarcely anything in this world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little more cheaply. The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey. - John Ruskin

  • 08-16-2008 1:21 PM In reply to

    Re: New products 2008/09

    When should these new prices ( for the BeoSound 3, Serene, Serenata, etc. ) take effect?
  • 08-16-2008 1:38 PM In reply to

    Re: New products 2008/09

    09/15

    There is scarcely anything in this world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little more cheaply. The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey. - John Ruskin

  • 08-16-2008 1:50 PM In reply to

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    trip,can you tell us a little bit more about the bs-5Cool

  • 08-16-2008 1:58 PM In reply to

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    @Trip. That is a serious suit.

    I am hoping that the BS5 comes with a 2 way remote. It was said in the Business Week (?( interview that it is similiar to Sonos so I am hoping it comes with one. That combined with the ability to "suggest" music could make me fork over the B&O luxury tax for it and avoid Apple. Without a cool 2 way, it will be a tough call.

    BS9000, BS2300, BC2, BL2500, BL3, Bl2, BS1, BV8, BC4, A8

  • 08-16-2008 2:20 PM In reply to

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    and how much will the prices drop?
  • 08-16-2008 2:53 PM In reply to

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    A serious suit for a serious man.  

    I think that everything that I can safely divulge about the BeoSound 5 has already been divulged (as for the remaining 20%, 10% I can't talk about and 10% I'm sure I don't know). As for whether it comes with a two way remote... hmmm... I'd probably just say you won't really have to worry about that. Probably.

    As for the price drop, it only affects products that share a common attribute. BeoSound 3, BeoSound 6, Serene, Serenata, BeoMedia 1. Can you guess what that common attribute is?

    Everything else will see a price increase to adjust for currency fluctuation and production/material costs.  

    There is scarcely anything in this world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little more cheaply. The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey. - John Ruskin

  • 08-16-2008 3:02 PM In reply to

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    Hmmmm.  I have been thinking of selling my Beomedia 1.  I had better hurry!

    Beosound 5 BL9 BC2 BL8000 Beovision 7 BL6002  BL11 

     

  • 08-16-2008 3:16 PM In reply to

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    TripEnglish:

    A serious suit for a serious man.  

    I think that everything that I can safely divulge about the BeoSound 5 has already been divulged (as for the remaining 20%, 10% I can't talk about and 10% I'm sure I don't know). As for whether it comes with a two way remote... hmmm... I'd probably just say you won't really have to worry about that. Probably.

    As for the price drop, it only affects products that share a common attribute. BeoSound 3, BeoSound 6, Serene, Serenata, BeoMedia 1. Can you guess what that common attribute is?

    Everything else will see a price increase to adjust for currency fluctuation and production/material costs.  

     

    common attribute-poor sales volume?

    Beovision 7-55 with Beolab 7-4, 9s and 4000s

    Beovision 10-40 with Beolab 1s and 6000s

    Beosound 1, 5, 2000, and 3000

    Beotime, Beotalk, Beocoms

  • 08-17-2008 1:24 PM In reply to

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    That is all good. But what about actually using clean energy and stating the carbon footprint for each product. I just read from Times magazine that an Ipod mini had only a carbon footprint of 6? Maybe B&O can follow suit. 
  • 08-17-2008 5:22 PM In reply to

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    Is this number annualized onto the excepted duration of the product? Apple is one of the company who make constant minor modifications to their products so that consumer upgrade. I think I read somewhere, consumer are actually happy when their Ipods break as they can upgrade to the latest model. Low carbon footprint doesn't make a difference if a company drives teh customer to constant consumption and exchange. Microsoft Intel played this nicely but Apple i think manages even to take this much further.

    For Apple to become green would mean they depart from pleasing the shareholder. The little they do is for marketing as it becomes "hip" to watch out for the environment.

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    They could take old products back regardless where it was bought. They definitely have enough money to do so.

    JK 

     

     

    BS9000, BS2300, BC2, BL2500, BL3, Bl2, BS1, BV8, BC4, A8

  • 08-17-2008 6:00 PM In reply to

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    jk1002:

    They could take old products back regardless where it was bought. They definitely have enough money to do so.

    JK  

    I don't want to get caught in a discussion about carbon footprint and the environment but I do want to point out what Apple will do for its customers when recycling.  I recently bought a new MacBook Air which I really like.  I then received an email from Apple with instructions on how I can recycle 2 boxes of computer hardware.  It didn't matter if the products to be recycled were Apple products. I packed the 2 boxes with an old iMac and an old iBook plus lithium batteries.  I also threw in 2 old cell phones, power modules, and various cables.  The boxes were shipped by Fedex to a recycling facility in California. This was at no extra cost to me.

    http://www.apple.com/environment/recycling/program/index.html 

    Beosound 5 BL9 BC2 BL8000 Beovision 7 BL6002  BL11 

     

  • 08-17-2008 8:35 PM In reply to

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    That is correct. But I was saying regardless where it was bought. Lets that to another thread. 

     

    JK 

    BS9000, BS2300, BC2, BL2500, BL3, Bl2, BS1, BV8, BC4, A8

  • 08-17-2008 8:45 PM In reply to

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    Re: New products 2008/09

    linder:
     ....The boxes were shipped by Fedex to a recycling facility in California..

    Leaving a smaller carbon footprint on the way than they neutralised i hope! Laughing

    Lee 

    PS - @ jk1002 - that's William Shatner, not TripEnglish in a suit.. Wink

    PPS - ...unless Trip is William Shatner that is... Indifferent 

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