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  • 07-07-2008 1:17 AM

    • Munin
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    No - thumbs down [N] IQ of B&O engineers?

    Is it high, moderate or too low to be detected? Angry Or to put it in other words  - What is the reason for B&O being unable of writing PUC software for the AppleTV? After all they have managed to control a whole range of other STBs.

    I get absolutely no useful information from Bang Olufsen Denmark on how to control the AppleTV with Beo4. So VERY frustrating!!!

    Yes I know that some of you have been lucky with this -  and one possible explanation is that it is various versions of the Beovision software that causes the problem. However, no matter where the error lies, B&O should - after so many months - have been able to come up with an official solution.

    I know that B&O in the past has chosen the Microsoft path - but to keep on ignoring the worlds most powerful operating system is just so very foolish.

    This is altogether so sad! I'd love to see B&O survive also in the age of digital media.

    /M

  • 07-07-2008 2:48 AM In reply to

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    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    Laughing 

  • 07-07-2008 4:10 AM In reply to

    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    I doubt that it is a function of engineering knowhow.
    I doubt that it is a fuction of any licencing agreements.
    It is probably because they dont want to.
    There is a fine edge between a user to having on one extreme a full B&O system and only the BL4's at the other.
    i.e. they want you to buy as much B&O as possible.
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  • 07-07-2008 4:21 AM In reply to

    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    Strange- in the US you can control AppleTV with Beo4, without any trouble at all. European customers should adopt some American swagger: "Fuggeddeabout if I can't control my AppleTV!"

    Going to check.

     

  • 07-07-2008 4:55 AM In reply to

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    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    Thanx Britops .... Now trying hard to control my anger Ick! 

    And of course I understand that the B&O-tech department could if they wanted to ...

    And I know that Beo4 works fine in the US

     
    AngryAngryAngry BUT STILL - IT DOES NOT WORK HERE!!!!!!   AngryAngryAngryAngry

     

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  • 07-07-2008 4:57 AM In reply to

    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    Munin:

     
    AngryAngryAngryBUT STILL - IT DOES NOT WORK HERE!!!!!!   AngryAngryAngryAngry


    Which is unacceptable.

  • 07-07-2008 5:00 AM In reply to

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    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    I've got Apple TV in my PUC list, payed my local service tech to come around and install Apple TV, PS3 and a local digital cable network box into the list. All three work with my Beo4 and Beo5 remotes.
  • 07-07-2008 5:01 AM In reply to

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    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    soundproof:


    Which is unacceptable.

     

     

    THANX SOUNDPROOF Smile

  • 07-07-2008 5:09 AM In reply to

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    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    Jez:
    I've got Apple TV in my PUC list, payed my local service tech to come around and install Apple TV, PS3 and a local digital cable network box into the list. All three work with my Beo4 and Beo5 remotes.

    BeoRepairMan has been here twice - and failed twice - despite having installed three different "AppleTVcontrolWannabes" (AppleRemote, iPodRemote, and a third malware). Does not work at all! BeoRepairMan was very friendly ... but that didn't help either. The Digital Cable Network Box (Humax HD-box) works perfectly though.

    /M

  • 07-07-2008 5:09 AM In reply to

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    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

     
  • 07-07-2008 5:40 AM In reply to

    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    Forgive my ignorance on this subject: Is it the US AppleTV that is different firmware, or the Beo?

    Surely it is not just the geography Wink 

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  • 07-07-2008 8:10 AM In reply to

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    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    When I got my BV7-40 MK III 4 weeks ago, I connected a mac mini to an AV socket via HDMI and control the mac with Beo 4 with the PUC "ipodremote" in DVD2 mode. Everything works fine including fast scroll. I`m in Europe.
    Did you try another appletv?
    Does your apple tv work with the apple remote?
    Have you paired the remote to your apple tv?
    Can you see IR commands at the IR emitter via a digital camera?
    Ok, let`have a little break. I`m thinking about more questions.......

    Stefan
  • 07-07-2008 8:57 AM In reply to

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    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    stefan:
    When I got my BV7-40 MK III 4 weeks ago, I connected a mac mini to an AV socket via HDMI and control the mac with Beo 4 with the PUC "ipodremote" in DVD2 mode. Everything works fine including fast scroll. I`m in Europe.
    Did you try another appletv?
    Does your apple tv work with the apple remote?
    Have you paired the remote to your apple tv?
    Can you see IR commands at the IR emitter via a digital camera?
    Ok, let`have a little break. I`m thinking about more questions.......

    Stefan

    OK, so it's maybe not a geographical issue then. Could it be old versus new BV7-software?

    No, I haven't tested another AppleTV but this one works perfectly with the AppleRemote.
    How do you pair a Beo4 with the AppleTV when the AppleTV does not respond at all to Beo4?
    Haven't tried to take digital images of the IR-sender Confused

    /M

  • 07-07-2008 9:11 AM In reply to

    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    Actually, Stefan may be on to something.

    If you have paired your remote to the AppleTV, then it won't recognize IR-signals from other units.

    Go into the settings menu and unpair the remote (if paired).

  • 07-07-2008 9:19 AM In reply to

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    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    soundproof:

    Actually, Stefan may be on to something.

    If you have paired your remote to the AppleTV, then it won't recognize IR-signals from other units.

    Go into the settings menu and unpair the remote (if paired).

     

    Well, unpairing I have tried - with no luck. However, pairing the deaf? AppleTV with the dumb? Beo4 was beyond my brain capacity Erm

    Thanx anyway !

  • 07-07-2008 10:08 AM In reply to

    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    There is no reason why thw beo4 shouldn't work.  I guess that as mentioned it is to do with the Apple remote still being paired to your ATV.

     There is loads of info on pairing and unpairing remotes on the the web, and I would really look nto this before slating B&O software too much.

     

    If the STB setup is correct you should at least see the light on the ATV flash when you hit buttons on the Beo4.  If you do and yet it isn't working, I would definataley look at the pairing issue

  • 07-07-2008 10:37 AM In reply to

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    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    I think it is very important to unpair the apple remote, because apple remote sends different codes if paired. The PUC doesn`t control your appletv, it just translates Beo IR codes into apple (NEC) codes. So it won`t detect the codes if paired.
    First thing: make sure your apple remote is unpaired.
    Second: take a camera or a mobile phone and check whether the codes are sent by the PUC. You dont have to take photos, you can see the ir command at the ir emitter looking through the camera when you press a button on the Beo4 that matches the apple remote.

    Stefan

  • 07-07-2008 11:09 AM In reply to

    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    And a silly question: your ir-connector is in the right port on your BV-7? My BV8 has two ports, and I wasn't sure which was 1 and which was 2. Of course I picked the wrong one when I first set up.

  • 07-07-2008 11:26 AM In reply to

    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    What do you need to control AppleTV with the Beo4 in the US?  Please post explicit details.

     

    Thanks,

     

    Dario 

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  • 07-07-2008 11:50 AM In reply to

    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    I have a BV8, I selected Ipod Remote -  made sure ATV is unpaired - and it works like a charm.

    I think you have to have a current STB software, it may even be that one works and a later one doesn't. Beocare confirmed for my BV8 that it can control the ATV. It might be beneficial if you contact them and ask them which version would support that. They can find out from product management, it took them a bit though.

     

    JK 

     

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  • 07-07-2008 11:59 AM In reply to

    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    1. My BeoVision 8 has two ir-control sockets, identified in the menu as SC1 and SC2. These provide translated signals for a variety of peripheral units, and let you control them.

    2. You'll need the ir-eye connector kit (just a cable with a minijack at one end, and an ir-eye at the other. You place the ir-eye across the ir-eye on the AppleTV. (Don't cover it entirely, as you may want to be able to use the Apple remote for some reason. Leave a little showing underneath the B&O ir-eye you're affixing to the AppleTV.

    3. Make sure your BeoVision has the software installed that lets it control the "ipodremote" - this will let you send the appropriate signals to the AppleTV (or another Mac device that understand ipodremote.) Your dealer can configure this if it's missing. In the BeoVision's menu go to Connections, and then to the AV port you've connected the AppleTV to - there you'll find IR SOCKET. Pick the socket you have connected the ir-eye minijack to, and pick ipodremote after you press GO with your Beo4.

    When this is stored, you should be able to control the AppleTV with your Beo4.

     

  • 07-07-2008 12:10 PM In reply to

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    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    Well as I said ... the AppleTV is definitely unpaired ...

    However, I think I've finally got some valid info. A guy from B&O Denmark just called and told that the very specific PUC-version I have translates Beo4 IR into death-rays. He strongly recommended me to move all valuable Apple-computers to the basement.

    /M

  • 07-07-2008 1:44 PM In reply to

    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    Ah, Munin, my log-on list was directed at Dario, not you.

    I think your dealer must be unaware of the ipodremote software mod.

  • 07-07-2008 2:13 PM In reply to

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    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    @ Soundproof

    No worries Smile ... I didn't reply to that ...

    However I do have the iPodRemote installed  ... and everything is definitely unpaired ... and Beo4-control of the Humax works fine ... and I have tested all possible AV:s with their associated PUCs and VMEM and all the others as well ....

    The BeoDane also told me that they have 380V in Denmark. So maybe 220V it's just too low for my BV7. I'll try that ... Bye for now and thanx for your patience ...

    /Munin

     

  • 07-07-2008 4:43 PM In reply to

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    Re: IQ of B&O engineers?

    Please - DO NOT connect your BV7 to 380V !!

    In Denmark are 230 V as in most countries in Europe.

    Stefan 

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