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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
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soundproof
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Posts 2,340
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wtlc2zpx: jk1002: What I do not like about Apple is the politic about marginal improvements. They always make you want the latest product, but do not exceed expecctations when it comes to improved functions. Think long song names that are scrolling in the display. Why wasn't that retrofitted to prior generations. Is just a software update,
Maybe you have not tried the landscape/coverfow mode. It is awsome. In a few second you can identify a song in your entire library.
He-he - was going to say it. The wheel is now virtual, with screen-interaction -- and coverflow is a brilliant representation of it.
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mbee
- Joined on 04-18-2007
- Paris, France
- Posts 1,133
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Of course it is beautiful to look at coverflow and to play with it with your finger... But the iPod Touch is simply a step back in usability compared to iPod as you can't use it without taking it off your pocket, you must look at the screen to do anything. The iPhone has hard buttons to push the volume up/down, and with the earset (earset 3 for iPhone...) you can stop the music with a click on the mic. That's more ergonomic, not perfect but quite good. The iPod Touch has none of those options.
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jk1002
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Boston USA
- Posts 1,620
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The coverflow option also requires that you have a cover. 80% of my CDs don't. I know I can plug in the ones from Amazon and solve that but I have lots of compilations so it means much much more work for me. From a usability prospective, it is very far away from the brilliance that the Ipod has. Try harder, Apple.
BS9000, BS2300, BC2, BL2500, BL3, Bl2, BS1, BV8, BC4, A8
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jk1002
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Boston USA
- Posts 1,620
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Yes and no. The trouble with Wifi is that you reach a limit how many wireless networks there can be at the same time. In high rise buildings you easily reach that. I had the Airport Solution running for a while, 3 synced up. It is neat, I agree.
BS9000, BS2300, BC2, BL2500, BL3, Bl2, BS1, BV8, BC4, A8
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mbee
- Joined on 04-18-2007
- Paris, France
- Posts 1,133
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jk1002: Yes and no. The trouble with Wifi is that you reach a limit how many wireless networks there can be at the same time. In high rise buildings you easily reach that.
I think this issue is now solved with i802.11n, as the signal can actively jump from one channel to another depending on the reception quality. I can easily find more than 20 wifi networks in my flat (I live in Paris...), and everything works correctly with airport (excepted the radio bug, but with airfoil it works...). The area is totally saturated with wifi, GSM and other wireless networks but no problem with airport...
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Russ
- Joined on 05-07-2007
- Washington, DC USA
- Posts 641
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Jandyt: Alex: A digital input on most of the BeoLabs will be as useful and beneficial as a chimney on a submarine.
Hmmm.
Hilarious JandyT!! Leave it to the Brits to still be using coal-burning submarines. I think Andy would have done better to use 'screen doors' as oposed to 'chimney'. On to the question at hand though.... Adding S/P-DIF inputs to a speaker isn't as easy as some here are making it out to be. Putting aside the raw technology for just a moment, where on a BeoLab 3 for instance, does one put the extra connection? Where indeed, does one put the extra chipset inside a BeoLab 3? Or a 4? The older speakers (4000/6000/80000), could at least sacrifice the existing RCA analog socket, but then we're giving up a feature, no? What cost difference are we willing to tolerate? Given that only 2 current Audio masters support dighital output, with only the BeoSound 5 looming in the foggy middle distance, what is the actual benefit, particularly when most of us would be playing compressed files for the forseeable future? Russ
We kid because we love.
Bang & Olufsen Tysons Galleria
McLean, VA USA
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wonderfulelectric
- Joined on 06-27-2007
- Posts 302
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Well RussR. There many ways to do it. Simply switch all the analog components to digital and create an outboard A/D converter like many digital loudspeaker manufacturers do or build an A/D converter in like the BeoLab 5. The thing is many components such as a cd player or a computer have digital outputs and not necessary analog outputs or should I say computers with analog outputs are almost always of inferior quality, so having a digital input will make B&O loudspeakers more versatile and have greater control over sound quality. True that most are listening to compressed files now but that doesn't mean having a build in DSP would not improve sound quality. Most of the people in this thread seems to thinking what I am refering to is to just add a digital input to the loudspeakers but what I am saying isn't that, it is to have a pure digital path in the crossover and equalizing process instead of the current analog one. It is very different from say some loudspeakers with a digital input and follow the usual D/A and then an active crossover route. Having a DSP built in or integrated into a loudspeaker design means virtually eliminating any colouration from the loudspakers by the use of digital equalization with minimal or immeasurable loss unlike say using an active crossover/ equalization or passive crossover. So yes having a DSP loudspeaker will improve any sound system regardless of source quality. Also, there are emerging technologies in the digital arena that will improve compressed audio such as the ingenious solutions created by Linn and Meridian.
cheers Alexander
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Alex
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Bath & Cardiff, UK
- Posts 2,990
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They don't necessarily need to have variable volume, although it would be ideal.
I agree RE the use of DSPs, but this too has it's disadvantages, mainly cost related...
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xegoon
- Joined on 07-05-2007
- Posts 1,220
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Well, first, excuse my english... The real question is that including digital inputs in the beolabs (use the current tecnology) will really change the experience of use them. I think that B&O dosen't really care about the ways of the tecnology, but use it to offer experiences. It's its philosophy and i think that we have to accept it. I don't care about the components of my BLs 3, and the tecnology that B&O has used to make it. I only know that this beolabs sounds better than any speaker that i've ever heard before, with the same caracteristics. SPDFI in?? Why?? This will be a plus in my BLs?? I don't think it... I don't really care.
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