Ok - thanks Peter. One other question, forgive me if its a silly one, can the standard V box be controlled via the Beo5 directly (as it would with the V+ box) without me paying for the IR cable and necessary upgrade (qutoed £130+VAT). What advantages are there for connecting it all up via the chip in the Avant instead of directly synching it with

This gets more confusing all the time!! I have the standard V box not the V+ box so surely my dealers can get this to work with my Beo4 assuming I have the correct software (I have the STB-C but will check on the s/w) even though they dont think its possibly. Then surely the Beo5 should be the same! Sometimes dealers have very poor technical knowledge

Choosing different types of products my top 3 would be: Beolab 5 - awesome (enough said) Beosound 5 - beautiful Beo 5 - eye catching Soon to be the owner of a Beo 5 but unless my numbers come up the other 2 are long in the future for me!! This coming from a chap who is looking for some Mk3 Pentas as i love them so much!!

Peter is right - although you can upgrade the chip in the Avant unfortunately it does not cover the V+ box and there are no plans for it to either. Bit of a pain but just have to keep my V box in IR range for when I eventually get my Beo5.....

Sorry gents - being a bit dense!! Long week at work - thats my excuse anyway. This saga has carried on a while for me as contemplating a Beo5 but want to use it to control my V box. The answer I have is that the IR eye will NOT work with the V box and apparently never will due to the old chip in the Avant and has something to do with PUC or something

Cracking bargain last night - Beocentre 9300 went for £128 to someone with a username I_buy_used_beo so assuming some lucky someone on here has it. No pics put me off as well as it being in Cumbria but cash on collection so ad should have been accurate stating good working condition. Not bad for the money at all!!

Gents, I have a Virgin V Box working on my Avant VHS so a bit older than yours (not a RF model). It is the standard V box not the HD one and it works fine with my STB-C, no updates were necessary. Not got the IR eye installed so i can use my Beo4 to control it as yet so still using the Virgin controller but no problems in over 9 months so far.

I thought as much - its just frustrating me that my local dealer will not give me a definitive answer on whether it can control a V box!! In this climate i thought they would be biting my hand off for business not ignoring emails!! Ridiculous!

Hi all - in my quest to buy a Beo5 I have been given numerous answers on its compatibility with my B&O. I have an Avant with the STB-C fitted but not yet upgraded to control a box from my Beo4 (apparently I need an IR eye to achieve this which involves an engineer coming out and installing something into my Avant). My local dealer has told me that

Gutted - just missed a Beosystem 4500 on Ebay - all in good condition, not including the CD though - went for £128 including a Beolink 1000 in mint nick!! Damn it - forgot it was ending!! I'd have had that and waited on the CD to pop up in the future!! Gutted.... been looking for one of those for a while!!