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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 11-22-2010 11:43 AM by Electrified. 38 replies.
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propaganda
- Joined on 11-13-2008
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I would like the ability to easily remove tracks from the queue. MOTS is good but it is not perfect.
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Electrified
- Joined on 10-05-2009
- Greater Copenhagen, Denmark
- Posts 404
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propaganda:
A slight misread on my part had me thinking about recording. Is it possible to record a radio broadcast (say, p1/bbc1/npr) on that thing, or is that not possible, just like podcasts aren't possible to subscribe to?
Besides that, I completely agree with the restriction. I don't want to listen to myself, nor any radio documentaries/features or whatever if I'm in a music mood and vice versa.
I don't know if the BS5 is able to at present - it wasn't when I looked at it, but a way to enter radio station URLs by oneself is another must. Not that there aren't many, but I don't like the idea that if I discover a great little radio stream from some basement I have to email Struer. Perhaps in the Encore (crossing fingers).
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beolion
- Joined on 10-20-2009
- Posts 245
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Hi
I have asked my dealer to put a request at B&O to be able to search for Album Artist also, and not just Song Artists. Many songs that I have are often with 2 or more artists, which makes the search quite difficult.
How does B&O get the request for BS5/BM5 changes? Is that via the Dealer?
There is something about B&O.....
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IngvarW
- Joined on 10-09-2007
- Sweden
- Posts 108
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What do you think if the BS5 could run a spotify client. The wheel and the GO button could be used as a keyboard when you put in letters for searching artists. Brgds ingvar
Collector since 1996, BS5/BM5, BL3*4, BL11, BEO6, BV10-46, BL2000, MX4002, Beocom6000, Beotalk1200
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tournedos
- Joined on 12-08-2007
- Finland
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Spotify is almost completely closed, and the only ones able to build
such an app for the BS5 would be Spotify themselves. I doubt they would
have any interest given the market base - and on the other hand, they couldn't make it integrate with the user interface without B&O opening up the internals for them, another unlikely event.
After much anticipation, Spotify released an application
programming interface last year, but it is limited enough to be
practically useless for anything (and only runs on Linux anyway), so there's no real chance of any 3rd party doing it either.
I guess you could run the regular Spotify client on the BM5, but controlling it would be a tricky problem and I don't know if it would have access to the audio hardware anyway.
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mbee
- Joined on 04-18-2007
- Paris, France
- Posts 1,133
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tournedos: Spotify is almost completely closed, and the only ones able to build
such an app for the BS5 would be Spotify themselves. I doubt they would
have any interest given the market base - and on the other hand, they couldn't make it integrate with the user interface without B&O opening up the internals for them, another unlikely event.
Are you sure about that? Sonos also doesn't has a huge customer base, but they have now integrated Spotify, which IMHO turns Sonos as the best multiroom digital music system today.
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DoubleU
- Joined on 05-09-2007
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Spotify is great and far from being closed. It also works with Squeezebox, although it's unofficial.
But to be honest, I don't think B&O is ever going to support online streaming services. Not in the near future.
If only the Beo5/6 could do something like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfqehOE5Je4
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tournedos
- Joined on 12-08-2007
- Finland
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"Open" means that anyone can build a client with available published
specifications and source code. That is not the case with Spotify.
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Squeezebox plugin uses the API and closed source library I mentioned
above. The API hasn't evolved much so I suspect the Spotify folks aren't
too keen on revealing more info than that. Furthermore, it requires a
premium account (apparently at least partly because they can't force
showing ads with it) and has pretty ugly terms of usage - probably
enforced by the content owners as well.
Sonos apparently has
collaborated with Spotify for the implementation, so that can be done.
But I believe it would not be in B&O's interests to turn the BS5 into a
glorified Spotify (or whatever streaming service) client, which is
pretty much the opposite of what it was designed to do: browse your own
library. Also I'm sure the vastly underperforming B&O software
department has its hands full with the current projects.
And to top it off, Spotify isn't even available in large parts of B&O's market area.
I agree it would be a nice thing to have, but the realities seem a bit too much for it to happen.
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mbee
- Joined on 04-18-2007
- Paris, France
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By nature, Spotify can not be as open as your description... Why? Just because if it was open, it would take only 1 minute to write a bit of code allowing to download a song via Spotify. That would mean the end of Spotify, as no music company would dare to make its library available through Spotify.
But remember the very first rumors about the BS5 : people were saying that it would be able to play music that you like and you don't have... It was finally a way to say that MOTS can find some music that you totallly forgot on your vast library... But now, it can be done with Spotify.
Imagine listening to one of your tracks, then using MOTS, and MOTS would find tracks in your library AND on Spotify Premium... What a wonderful world would that be!
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Electrified
- Joined on 10-05-2009
- Greater Copenhagen, Denmark
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mbee: By nature, Spotify can not be as open as your description... Why? Just because if it was open, it would take only 1 minute to write a bit of code allowing to download a song via Spotify.
That can't be right. Your argument seems to suggest that open source can't be safe or have protected contents.
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Electrified
- Joined on 10-05-2009
- Greater Copenhagen, Denmark
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mbee:
@Electrified : that's one of the reasons why there is no blu ray on Mac (but the main one is called Steve Jobs) : as OSX is based on an open-source UNIX kernel, BD protections were avoiding it... (but BD is already cracked)
I call Bollocks!
If it's not possible to have copy protection on Macs because OSX is based on UNIX, then no DRM is possible for that very reason. In fact, they have pretty much tied people into macs and especially iTunes if you wan't to use an iPad, iPhone, or iPod. Yet, it is all based on an open source UNIX kernel.
No, I think the sole one to blame for lack of BD support is Steve Jobs and the people buying Macs on sheer looks.
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