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Latest post 03-22-2010 6:35 AM by Dapper. 24 replies.
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Dapper
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Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Hi all,
I have another question and hope someone can help me out.
I own an ACRyan PVR!TV and I would like to use the BEO5 instead of the supplied remote that came with it. What I want is to directly control the PVR!TV, not through the B&O system.
I have been reading through this and several other fora. On this forum, I found an update from Keith, advising to download a trail version of Remote Control II, do I got my old Ipaq 2210 that was collecting dust and put it to use again .
For starters, I am concentrating on the POWER button, and will work from there on. The Remote Control II software returned this data back from the POWER button on the ACRYAN remote:
0000 006D 0022 0002 0156 00AA 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 003F 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 003F 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0642
0156 0055 0016 0E46
In addition, it told me the carrier is at 38.0004 kHz.
Now, how to go from here?Is this string the much talked about CCF code string?
Thanks, Peter.
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Keith Saunders
- Joined on 04-16-2007
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Peter,
I can confirm that you have correctly captured a valid command.
Your captured command is in Pronto HEX format and decodes as follows:-
- Carrier Frequency is 38,028.8 Hz
- It uses 32 bit NEC protocol
- It has a device code of HEX 00
- Your "Power" command decodes to HEX 57
I have created an XML file for you to test and use as a template for other commands which you can download HERE
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Dapper
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Keith,
Thank you so much. I just tested and the button works great on the PVR!TV. Can you help me further? What has to be my next steps? Do I need to capture all the buttons I want to use?
Thanks again for the help. I appreciate it.
Peter.
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Keith Saunders
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Technical Advisor, Little Ann, Hampshire, UK
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Peter,
Whilst, your TV uses standard 32 bit NEC protocol and uses the default device code for a TV of HEX 00 and there are some standards for commands, its clear your TV does not use these standard because the standard "Power" code is "12" and you have "57"
So, you will need to capture all the codes from your original remote and then convert them to NEC.
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Dapper
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Keith,
thanks for the answer. One thing though: The device is not a TV, its a device like the Tvix 6500 ( able to play Divx, DVD ,etc.. files) with a recording capability.
OK. If I have to capture all the codes, do I need the "long" form like I gave earlier for each button, or can I shotcut ( though I do not see the hex code of 57 ( bitstring 0101 0111 ) in the codes I gave for the POWER button.
As a side note, I contacted the vendor about these codes but they never responded . I did find some codes for a simular device from this vendor ( its the HD version of mine without the tuner in it and slightly different functionality ) and these are:
Power------ 900A 006D 0000 0001 009F 57A8 Mute-------- 900A 0068 0000
0001 009F 5BA4 INFO-------- 900A 006D 0000 0001 009F 52AD TV
SYS----- 900A 006D 0000 0001 009F 01FE Browser---- 900A 006D 0000
0001 009F 4AB5 Copy------- 900A 006D 0000 0001 009F 41BE Music-------
900A 006D 0000 0001 009F 56A9 1------------ 900A 0068 0000 0001 009F
05FA 2------------ 900A 0068 0000 0001 009F 09F6 3------------
900A 0068 0000 0001 009F 15EA
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Is this of any use ?
Thanks, Peter.
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Dapper
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
More info:
My device is called the PVR72100. No codes for thatone. But I did find the codes for the PVR73100 in another format like the ones I gave above:
http://www.acryan.com/downloads/ACR-PV73100_RC_Codes.jpg
and
http://www.acryan.com/downloads/ACR-PV73100_RC_Codes.txt
If only they would have given them for my unit
Peter.
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Keith Saunders
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Peter,
Based on your research it is clear the company uses the same codes for all the models you have highlighted, so the codes you listed previously are clearly going to work, so you are going to need the rest of the commands in either thr short form below or the long form
Power------ 900A 006D 0000 0001 009F 57A8 Mute-------- 900A 0068 0000
0001 009F 5BA4 INFO-------- 900A 006D 0000 0001 009F 52AD TV
SYS----- 900A 006D 0000 0001 009F 01FE Browser---- 900A 006D 0000
0001 009F 4AB5 Copy------- 900A 006D 0000 0001 009F 41BE Music-------
900A 006D 0000 0001 009F 56A9 1------------ 900A 0068 0000 0001 009F
05FA 2------------ 900A 0068 0000 0001 009F 09F6 3------------
900A 0068 0000 0001 009F 15EA
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Dapper
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Hi Keith,
thanks for the clarification. This looks promising. I found ever shorter notation as mentioned before:
Power, 0x57 Mute, 0x5b Info, 0x52 TV Sys., 0x01 Browser, 0x4A <-- Not on my remote Copy, 0x41 Music, 0x56 1, 0x05 2, 0x09 3, 0x15 4, 0x04 5, 0x08 6, 0x14 7, 0x00 8, 0x10 9, 0x0C 0, 0x11 Repeat, 0x58 Goto, 0x0D Rewind, 0x07 PreVious, 0x0F Vol-, 0x54 Vol+, 0x17 FastForward, 0X03 Next, 0x0B Play, 0x50 Stop, 0x13 Home, 0x47 Return, 0x4F Menu, 0x16 SetUp, 0x1A Up, 0X43 Down, 0x0a Left, 0x06 Right, 0x0E Enter, 0x02 Pause/Step, 0x5A Slow, 0x4D A-B, 0x4C Angle, 0x59 Ins Replay, 0x46 CM Skip, 0x45 Zoom In, 0x44 ZOOm out, 0x40 Select, 0x55 Confirm, 0X4E Audio, 0x49 Subtitle, 0x48
Will this do? What do I have to do next? There are some functiones missing that are on my remote but not in the list:
REC
SOURCE
INFO
TIMER
EPG
TTX
Red, Green, Yellow and Blue button for TTX
I never used EPG, TTX , but I did use the others.
How to go further now? I can get the long versions of the missing buttons like I did with the POWER button.
Thanks a lot forthe effort and time you put in to help me here,
Peter
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Keith Saunders
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Frankly, that is why I suggested you captured them as you did with the "Power"
Whilst it is clear they have defined their own command codes as you have found out, some commands are missing and I am assuming you want them all.
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Dapper
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Hi Keith,
OK, I used the program on the PDA and it defined the following keys that I use like this:
Rec 0000 006D 0022 0002 0156 00AA 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 003F 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 003F 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0642
0156 0055 0016 0E46
Source 0000 006D 0022 0002 0157 00AA 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0040 0015 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0040 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0040 0015 0015 0016 0040 0015 0015 0016 0040 0015 0015 0016 0040 0015 0643
0157 0055 0015 0E47
Info 0000 006D 0022 0002 0157 00AA 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0040 0015 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0040 0015 0015 0016 0040 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0040 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0015 0643
0157 0055 0015 0E47
Timer 0000 006D 0022 0002 0157 00AB 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 003F 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 003F 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 003F 0016 0015 0016 003F 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 003F 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0642
0157 0055 0016 0E47
These are all the keys I use. Do you want me to sort out the EPG, TTX and color buttons for the sake of completeness?
Thanks, Peter.
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Dapper
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Just finished the missing last ones. EPG is the same button on the remote as the GREEN button, TTX is the same as the YELLOW button.
Epg (same as Green Button) 0000 006D 0022 0002 0156 00AB 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 003F 0016 003F 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 003F 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 003F 0016 003F 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 003F 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 003F 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 0015 0016 003F 0016 0643
0156 0055 0016 0E47
Ttx (same as Yellow button) 0000 006D 0022 0002 0157 00AA 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0040 0015 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0040 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0015 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0015 0015 0016 0040 0015 0643
0157 0055 0015 0E47
Red 0000 006D 0022 0002 0156 00AB 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 003F 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0015 0016 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 003F 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0642
0157 0055 0016 0E46
Blue 0000 006D 0022 0002 0157 00AA 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0040 0015 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0015 0040 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0040 0015 0040 0016 0040 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0015 0040 0016 0040 0016 0040 0015 0643
0157 0055 0015 0E47
This should be all the keys .
Thanks for the help, Peter.
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Keith Saunders
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Peter,
Click HERE to download another XML file
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Dapper
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Hi Keith,
thanks for the file. I found that it contains 5 buttons:
Record <- Doesn't work , seems to have the same function as POWER
Source <- Works like on the original
Info <- Works
Timer <- Works
Power <- Works
So Record is doinf nothing, though the light on the device flashes like itsa getting a remote control signal. Should I try to capture the RECORD buttong again?
Thanks!
Peter.
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Dapper
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Errata,
Record functions like the POWER button.
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Dapper
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Captured the RECORD button again and its gives me some other data????
Record 0000 006D 0022 0002 0156 00AA 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 003F 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0015 0016 0015 0016 0015 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 003F 0015 0040 0016 003F 0016 003F 0015 0040 0016 0642
0157 0055 0016 0E46
Not sure what is going on here. Maybe I made a mistake the first time .
Thanks, Peter.
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Dapper
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Keith,
Just tried and I can confirm that the hard key are working :-)
Peter.
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Keith Saunders
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Peter,
Click HERE to download another XML file
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Dapper
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Hi Keith,
I downloaded the new file and can confirm that the RECORD key now "sort-of" works. It seems like the device isn't sometimes getting the IR command clear enough to respond. I am making sure I am at a good distance. I am not sure but I noticed the following: When I press keys on the original remote and hold them, I see that the light on the device keeps on flashing. When I do so with the BEO5, I see a short flash, no matter if I hold the key or not.
It seems the device needs some time to respond to the IR command, and maybe needs it repeatedly? I always had to keep pushing and hold the button on the original remote to get functions working OK.
Thanks, Peter.
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Dapper
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
This is maybe a better description of the difference between pressing and holding a button on the original remote and the BEO5.
When the device is powered-on, it shows a continues blue light.
When I press and hold a button on the original remote, this light starts flashing until I release the button. Then it will show a continues blue light again.
When I press and hold a button on the BEO5, this light flashes for a short intance, and then stays OFF for the duration that I press the key. When I release the buttton, it show a continues blue light.
Peter.
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Keith Saunders
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Peter,
When it comes to "Repeat" using NEC protocol, there are the ones which following the standard specification to the letter which is as followings:-
by doing 1 one bit repeat signal rather than the whole signal which is what you have in the XML file, but it sounds like they repeat the whole signal again.
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Dapper
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Hi Keith,
this sounds like the remote and device do not adhere to the standards. The only reason why it acts this way is to give the device time to respond.
To tell you the truth, the RECORD button is the only button this exposes a problem currently. As there any chance for you to upload a XML with the navigation buttons:
Up, 0X43 Down, 0x0a Left, 0x06 Right, 0x0E Enter, 0x02
This way, maybe I can test if RECORD is the only function that exposes a problem. If the navigation buttons operate fine, then maybe this is some flaw in the device ?
Thanks, Peter.
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Dapper
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Hi Keith,
I just tested some more, based on your last update. This time I didn't observe the light but the screen ( ) and found that keeping the button pressed on the BEO5 does appear to function identical to the original .
By that I mean an example like this:
If I press the TIMER button on the original and hold it, it comes up with the list on the device where I can put in the schedule. If I hold it long enough, it exits the schedule list and returns to the previous page on the device.
The BEO5 timer button behaves exactly like this , so the flashing light is no factor.
BUT, for some reason, this doesn't happen with the RECORD button. That seems to function ( sometimes) different between the BEO5 and the original remote.
Very strange.
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Dapper
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Re: Another newbie question: Trying to put the ACRYAN PVR!TV remote function into the BEO5
Forgot one in the request for nav key :
Up, 0X43 Down, 0x0a Left, 0x06 Right, 0x0E Enter, 0x02
And
Return 0x04f
Thanks, Peter.
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