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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 02-01-2012 7:23 AM by chartz. 79 replies.
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superdario
- Joined on 06-21-2009
- Zurich / Switzerland
- Posts 152
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Claus:
I'm sure it's "factory" because the label says "E-4" (where Rosewood/Palisander is "P-3" - and Teak is either "T-1" or "T-2")
god aften claus,
welcome to beoworld and as jaff (burantek) offered welcome to the 5000 club. ;-)
the oak versions original... but frede is the expert on the beolab 5000 system.
what speakers are you using?
best regards
dario
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classic
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Venø - Struer / Denmark
- Posts 224
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Hello Claus,
Thanks for your input to the survey.
The distribution regarding finish of Beolab - Beomaster 5000 - my guess is:
Rosewood – Palisander: 50%
Teak: 35%
Oak – Eg: 15%
The oak version was released in 1968 and therefore not a part of the original release in 1967.
If you like to get more 'live' to your veneer, you can sand careful and use bee-wax (Trip-Trap here in Denmark is really the best).
If you want to keep the light color on the Oak cabinets, you can find special liquid bee-wax for Oak veneer (Flügger in Denmark).
/Frede
Beolab 5000 - "If another amplifier sounds different then it needs repair!"
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Claus
- Joined on 11-05-2009
- Copenhagen
- Posts 41
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
superdario:
what speakers are you using?
best regards
dario
Hello Dario - Guten Abend and thanks,
To answer your question, first I have to admit that I'm mostly into US/Japanese HiFi from app. 1975-1985 So I have a lot of JBL speakers at different stages of restoration (L26, L36, L65, L86, L96, L100 Century, L110, L150A, L166). Amp/receivers: Harman Kardon 430, 730, Citation 17 & 19, Nad 1300, Luxman C2 & L435 etc. Turntables: Pioneer, Systemdeck, Luxman & Era etc. Cartridges: Ortofon MC30 Super, OM10/20, MC3 Turbo, Denon DL-110, Pickering etc. CDs: Nads and Cambridge.
But recently I started buying B&O - beginning with the mentioned Beolab/-master 5000's - and also a Beomaster 2400-2 (which Martin fixed for me) and a Beogram 2400.
As for the speakers I've until now got: Beovox S30 - looks a lot better than they sound... Beovox M75 w. stands - sounds fine Beovox S45-2 w. stands - sounds great - really GREAT! I'm very impressed with these small speakers. Except for beeing a little sharp in the upper mid/treble, they are doing a lot of things right. And with the Luxman L435 stretching out (2 x 110w) they are able to move some air as well - that little 8" woofers is really busy!*)
Frede - sorry this is a bit OT in your threat, so I'll stop now.
*) OBS: I later found out that the resistors in the cross over almost melted and short cut the wires - so beware when using amplifiers so much over the rated max. power of the speaker See more at http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/t/32520.aspx
- Claus Beolab 5000 (x2), Beomaster 2400-2 & 5000, Beogram 2400/MMC20E, Beovox S30, S45 & S75, M75 - and growing...
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casdave
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Posts 226
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Beomaster Type 2005
No17240
Serie 05
Beolab Type 5303
No 78818
Serie 11
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superdario
- Joined on 06-21-2009
- Zurich / Switzerland
- Posts 152
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Claus:
superdario:
what speakers are you using?
best regards
dario
But recently I started buying B&O - beginning with the mentioned Beolab/-master 5000's - and also a Beomaster 2400-2 (which Martin fixed for me) and a Beogram 2400.
As for the speakers I've until now got: Beovox S30 - looks a lot better than they sound... Beovox M75 w. stands - sounds fine Beovox S45-2 w. stands - sounds great - really GREAT! I'm very impressed with these small speakers.
did you know that the best results always come from the original-setup? b&o has recommended for the beolab/beomaster 5000 a pair of beovox 5000 or some beovox 3000 connected to the iconic beovox cubes...
the hunting will start... ;-)
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classic
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Venø - Struer / Denmark
- Posts 224
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
I resume this request, perhaps some new owners of the BEOLAB 5000 - BEOMASTER 5000 have not seen this before.
I hope to receive more ID's for the Beolab / Beomster 5000
Please let me have:
Serial no and series found on the original Bang & Olufsen serial no label
/Frede
Beolab 5000 - "If another amplifier sounds different then it needs repair!"
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soundproof
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Posts 2,340
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
I believe you have my serial numbers, Frede. I see my Beolab 5000 is a series 4 unit from 1968, nice.
Strangely, B&O discontinued production in 1971. That was the year when Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange was released - the film went on to become a controversial hit movie, and was nominated for a Best Picture Academy Award.
The Beolab5000/Beomaster5000 combo featured prominently in several scenes of a movie where music could also be considered to be one of the protagonists.
Kubrick chose the Beolab/Beomaster because of their sophisticated and futuristic design, though he did have another set of speakers made up, as can be seen in the bottom image below. The units are seen in Alex' bedroom, including during a sex scene which made censors apoplectic. Could one sensor sex which was synchronized to classical music? Wasn't it art?
Here the Beolab/Beomaster units really come into their own.
When all bad things have come to pass, and the gov't realizes it has horribly mistreated Alex (not really, but politicians never get anything right), the Minister wheels a mobile super stereo kit with the Beolab/Beomaster units into Alex' hospital room to provide him with a much needed Beethoven fix.
This is the kind of product placement that marketers would literally kill for today ... though I do wonder whether Struer felt the product was scandalized by all the controversy?
No matter, when the film was released, they also ceased production - though I doubt the two are directly related.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clockwork_Orange_(film)
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Cleviebaby
- Joined on 07-30-2008
- Exeter, Devon
- Posts 328
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
soundproof:
Here the Beolab/Beomaster units really come into their own.
And between the BM and the BL is a Michel Transciptors Hydraulic Reference turntable that looks even more futuristic and its successors are still in production today - a stunning turntable. See http://www.michell-engineering.co.uk/turntable_picture_gallery.html
Cleve
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j0hnbarker
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- LS28/GB
- Posts 2,002
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Hi Frede
My Beloab 5000 is serie 11, and serial: 78882. My Beomaster 5000 has lost its sticker!
President, Beomaster 8000 Appreciation Society
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rabble
- Joined on 07-13-2007
- Switzerland
- Posts 75
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Hi Frede,
thanks for your help with the slider, hopefully the WD-40 lasts. (you can see my thread under Beolab 5000 system.)
Beomaster: Type 2005, Series 08, No. 52040
Beolab: Type 5303, Series 07, No: 33803
Andrew
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kallasr
- Joined on 04-19-2007
- Willich, NRW, Germany
- Posts 1,077
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Finally got my Beolab 5000 .... now hunting for a Beomaster 5000...
Frede, numbers are:
Type Nr. 5303 Serie 03 Serial 14852
Best regards
Ralf
My Beo: Beosound 3000, Beolab 4000, Beo 4 DVD, Beolab 5000/Beomaster 5000, Beovox S45.2 with Stands, Beosystem 7000 black with Beolink 7000, Beolink 1000, F1000 (3 cubes), Beovox 5000, Beovox 3000, Attyca 1.
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classic
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Venø - Struer / Denmark
- Posts 224
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Thank you very much Ralf, I have now records of nearly 100 Beolab 5000.
My estimated production level of Beolab 5000 is: 15000 pcs (total) from 1967 to 1972
´/Frede
Beolab 5000 - "If another amplifier sounds different then it needs repair!"
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kallasr
- Joined on 04-19-2007
- Willich, NRW, Germany
- Posts 1,077
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Frede,
just stumbled across this one
Beomaster 5000, Serie 04, 17184
Ralf
My Beo: Beosound 3000, Beolab 4000, Beo 4 DVD, Beolab 5000/Beomaster 5000, Beovox S45.2 with Stands, Beosystem 7000 black with Beolink 7000, Beolink 1000, F1000 (3 cubes), Beovox 5000, Beovox 3000, Attyca 1.
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Dillen
- Joined on 02-14-2007
- Copenhagen / Denmark
- Posts 5,008
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
And I have currently on the bench: Beomaster 5000 serie 04 no. 16920 Palisander
Martin
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Magnus
- Joined on 01-09-2010
- Sweden
- Posts 15
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Hello Frede,
here is the information from my Beolab 5000: Serie 02 No 66530 Palisander
Bought it from the original owner, the manual came with it (but not the test certificate that I understand was delivered in original). The front is in good shape (no text is missing, the sliders are nice). The wood panels have some marks and spots. How thick is the faner? What is the best way to clean and polish it?
/Magnus
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classic
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Venø - Struer / Denmark
- Posts 224
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Hello Magnus,
Congratulation with your fantastic Beolab 5000 and thank you very much for the ID.
The veneer is relativly thick. When I am restoring the wooden top cover I am sanding carefull to remove all scratches. Then I am using a very fine sanding to "smooth" the surface. The final treatment I use is bee wax (I use the product from the Danish company TripTrap).
/Frede
Beolab 5000 - "If another amplifier sounds different then it needs repair!"
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cozza
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- New Zealand
- Posts 119
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Hi Frede,
Here is one more for your database..
Type 5503 84248 Serie 09 T1
Best regards,
Colin.
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Flyvholm
- Joined on 05-14-2007
- Posts 1
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Hej Frede
I have 14 pair og Beolab/Beomaster 5000 - her comes data from labels:
BM 5000 type 5303 Beomaster 5000
Serie serieno. Serie. Serieno.
1. 10 57533 (uden label)
2. 10 57531 05 17737
3. 08 47477 07 33959
4. 03 14573 03 16930
5. 03 14602 (uden label)
6. 11 79333 03 62295
7. 03 14176 03 61981
8. (uden label) 11 80415
9. 10 57567 10 12593
10. 03 14455 03 61737
11. 01 88711 07 33536
12. 11 79084 10 12571
13. 03 14245 10 12403
14. ? 52954 05 17444 (vedr. Beolab er der ikke synlig serie på label)
Kind regards
Alex
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Peter
- Joined on 02-12-2007
- Posts 9,572
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
It would appear Martin has a rival! Welcome to Beoworld!
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Spanner
- Joined on 08-05-2011
- Posts 9
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Thought I'd give you my serial numbers as a first post.
Beolab 5000, type 5303, serie 02, No 65395
Beomaster 5000, type 2005, serie 01, No 15492
They are both just gathering dust at the moment, along with a Beogram 1000.
The beomaster and Beogram were completely dead when I tested them recently. The Beolab was in use until not so long back, but only one of the four speaker channels is working now. Not sure what to do with them, any idea what they are worth or how much to get them serviced?
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Dillen
- Joined on 02-14-2007
- Copenhagen / Denmark
- Posts 5,008
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Peter :
It would appear Martin has a rival! Welcome to Beoworld!
Indeed another collector ! And Alex happens to be a very good personal friend of mine as well. Nice to see your first post after lurking around for years, Alex.
Also a welcome to Spanner.
Martin
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RUDYV
- Joined on 07-31-2008
- Belgium
- Posts 52
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Hi Alex,
Welcome to Beoworld !!
Rudy
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classic
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Venø - Struer / Denmark
- Posts 224
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Spanner:
Thought I'd give you my serial numbers as a first post.
Beolab 5000, type 5303, serie 02, No 65395
Beomaster 5000, type 2005, serie 01, No 15492
They are both just gathering dust at the moment, along with a Beogram 1000.
The beomaster and Beogram were completely dead when I tested them recently. The Beolab was in use until not so long back, but only one of the four speaker channels is working now. Not sure what to do with them, any idea what they are worth or how much to get them serviced?
Hello Spanner,
Welcome to Beoworld !
Thank you very much for your Beolab - Beomaster serial numbers. As you can see I am trying to find out how many are produced of these classic products so every individual product id is important and helps to get closer to the true quantity.
/Frede
Beolab 5000 - "If another amplifier sounds different then it needs repair!"
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Peter
- Joined on 02-12-2007
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
The Beomaster and Beolab are well worth having restored - many of us have done just this and Classic Audio, run by Frede, specialises in exactly this.
You did however ask what these are worth. In non working order, very little - tens of pounds. A fully restored and certified pair will cost many hundreds. Whether it is worth this is clearly debatable. One does not see restored vwersions appearing on the market as on the whole they are restored to order and those ordering them would never part with them! You will find many owners will have the very top of the range modern equipment but keep a Beolab 5000 system as well.
The Beomaster 5000 is a broadcast quality tuner and the Beolab is an amplifier that is still well worth listening to with plenty of power. You could do with a better turntable though - B&O did supply a couple of decks to match the system - confusingly both were called the Beogram 3000, and even more confusingly, neither were fully B&O products!
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Spanner
- Joined on 08-05-2011
- Posts 9
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Re: Privat survey of Beolab 5000 - Beomaster 5000 producs
Peter :
The Beomaster and Beolab are well worth having restored - many of us have done just this and Classic Audio, run by Frede, specialises in exactly this.
You did however ask what these are worth. In non working order, very little - tens of pounds. A fully restored and certified pair will cost many hundreds. Whether it is worth this is clearly debatable. One does not see restored vwersions appearing on the market as on the whole they are restored to order and those ordering them would never part with them! You will find many owners will have the very top of the range modern equipment but keep a Beolab 5000 system as well.
The Beomaster 5000 is a broadcast quality tuner and the Beolab is an amplifier that is still well worth listening to with plenty of power. You could do with a better turntable though - B&O did supply a couple of decks to match the system - confusingly both were called the Beogram 3000, and even more confusingly, neither were fully B&O products!
Thanks for this advice. I just raised a new topic on my dilema, you must have replied while I was writing it. This does answer a few of my questions so cheers.
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