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  • 05-25-2009 6:04 PM

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    BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    I have just replaced my BeoVision MkIII with a MkIV with a DVB-HD module and here are my findings after a couple of hours use:

    The screen is very revealing of the quality of the source. It is extremely easy to judge the quality of the signal.

    The picture still looks good much further off-axis than on the MkIII.

    The picture looks softer and more plasma like, but it might be related to the sharpness setting.

    The Blu ray drive is a little slow and noisy during the start up phase, but after that, everything is OK. A good quality picture and a really nice menu that makes it easy to navigate and change settings.

    The DVB-HD module is fast compared to my previous Samsung set-top box, with a good and quick program list.

     

  • 05-25-2009 6:27 PM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    OKA:

    The picture looks softer and more plasma like, but it might be related to the sharpness setting.

    That's good to hear as that was my impression from watching the new 100Hz BV8-40, which must use the same panel. That looked more BV9-like (smoother) than the normal over-the-top sharpness of my current BV7-40 MKIII.

    From your Blu-ray tests, were you able to determine the audio formats supported? We can't figure if DTS HD is supported or not?

  • 05-25-2009 9:15 PM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    I mounted up the new Bv7 in the shop today and see no direct difference to the MKIII when we pulled a Planet Earth Blu-Ray 24Hz scene on both!? A little brighter, however. (You only use the 100Hz interpolation when watching 50Hz TV and DVD, and not on Blu-ray)

    It says also Dolby True HD on the back of the chassie, but according to BeoCare the True HD signal are about to be downscaled to 5.1 because the hardware are not capable of handle True HD today! (No DTS HD moxxey)

    Another disturbing detail is that now there are only 2 HDMI inputs left when the Blu-Ray and the DVB-T/C HD module takes up two slots! And no promised AST audio can i find either! Otherwise, not much improvement vs the MKIII! PS slow Blu-Ray and poor blackness!  I hope the BV10 with Edge LED will be the *** to own!

     

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  • 05-25-2009 10:33 PM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    One thing I would like to know is the ability of the Blu-Ray player to play MP3, JPEG and DivX files ( including HD DivX) on burned discs.  A real test would be more revealing than just reading the published specfications.

    I plan to upgrade the player on my own BV-7 MK-III, but retaining that capability is very important. 

    Thanks,

    Jean

     

  • 05-26-2009 2:51 AM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    Beolab, thanks. If that's the case then dark days for B&O. They've advertised 4 x HDMI sockets so, I want want is advertised. Without 4 x HDMI sockets, in theory I'll be able to reject the TV due to it being 'not as advertised'. I will reject it, too!

    As I've mentioned quite a bit, I've see the new BV8-40 and that did look like a slight step-up from the MKIII. I'm also cautious about the lack of 100Hz on Blu-ray as the Blu-rays I saw, compared to the MKIII that was in the store, looked more smooth. Movement and fast-panning was a lot more improved on the 100Hz BV8 panel.

    One thing I'm not too worried about is the 'poor blacks'. The MKIII blacks are too intense. If you play dark (and there are lots of them!) PS3 games on the MKIII, you can't see what you're doing in many games. ie. the BV7-40 renders the gameplay too dark. Loads of friends point that out. Bit embarrassing.

    We'll see what it's like when it arrives tomorrow. Are you sure that you're not trying to undersell it to youself on the basis you're not planning on upgrading? Funny how the person above, who received his, states he thinks it *is* an upgrade?

  • 05-26-2009 3:11 AM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    As far as I remember the MKIV specs posted earlier here in this forum it says id BluRay and DVB HD are mounted only two HDMI sockets are left.

    From my point of view this is OK as two important HD sources are now build in and two extra HDMI sockets are not to bad. Four would be better without doubt.

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  • 05-26-2009 3:49 AM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    tbh what else would you want to plug in if there's already a blu ray player , dvd w/ upscaler and a sky hd interface ?

    2 extra hdmi's seems ok to me

    sounds like an amazing bit of kit !!!

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  • 05-26-2009 4:45 AM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    interesting post can you tell me what bluray player you used and is the sound better on the external bluray player

  • 05-26-2009 4:47 AM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    It seems only Interpolate at 50Hz signals, otherwise, it is 48Hz in the coustmer service menu just like MKIII when we run the Bu-Ray 24Hz ... Veiwing standard TV / DVD = A step up from the MKIII in movements, but the same bad contrast ...

     

    It is a Samsung BD2500 internal blu-ray with BD Live 2.0, and i can´t see any diffrence btw the Sony s350 we use in the store... 

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  • 05-26-2009 4:56 AM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    kawo:

    As far as I remember the MKIV specs posted earlier here in this forum it says id BluRay and DVB HD are mounted only two HDMI sockets are left.

    Well, they need to be clear about that on their own site as it says 4 x HDMI sockets! I need 3, if possible. Mind you, I won't need the DVB HD module as I use a Sky HD external box.

    I can't see why the Blu-ray drive can't just do what the PS3 does and pass the HD audio as PCM. No need to decode. Simply send as PCM and allow the BS3 to decode?

    Beolab - in fairness, apart from a slightly smoother picture and better movement, I can't see how we can better the Blu-ray picture on the MKIV. For example, Dark Knight is absolutely staggeringly good on my MKIII. Apart from camera panning, I can't see how it can get any better than that. My expectations aren't too high - I'm simply hoping camera panning will be better.

    As I've said, my dealer was running Casino Royale Blu-ray on both the MKIII and the BV8-40 and, although the picture was just about the same, the camera panning on the fast-moving intro was better on the 100Hz BV8. Definitely improved. It was noticable.

  • 05-26-2009 5:06 AM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    Flappo The Grate:

    tbh what else would you want to plug in if there's already a blu ray player , dvd w/ upscaler and a sky hd interface ?

    Sky HD interface? Eh? Where's that? The DVB HD module surely isn't Sky compatible! No-one is allowed to decrypt Sky signals unless authorised by Sky (and their own boxes).

  • 05-26-2009 7:50 AM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    oh

    so you probably would need an extra hdmi , then.. whoops

    what exactly is the dvb thing in the 7 for then ??

    ???

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  • 05-26-2009 7:55 AM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    looks like the internal blu ray player is a good 'un !

    http://www.avforums.com/forums/blu-ray-players/926621-comparison-between-sony-bdp-s350-samsung-bd-2500-a.html

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  • 05-26-2009 11:26 AM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    Why doesn't have this new BV7 led backlighting?????????

  • 05-26-2009 12:22 PM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    I've seen the BV7-40 playing a BR-disc this afternoon. One word:

    WOW ! ! !

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  • 05-26-2009 12:33 PM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    Mine was supposed to be with my dealer today, but my dealer hasn't confirmed delivery, installation or whether it was received or not. Not particularly impressed.

  • 05-26-2009 12:42 PM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    mooxey you need a Gefen HDMI expander for more inputs...

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  • 05-26-2009 1:18 PM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    Tom:

    I've seen the BV7-40 playing a BR-disc this afternoon. One word:

    WOW ! ! !

    Yep, even the BV7-40 MKIII playing a Blu-ray can look very impressive. Dark Knight can't really be beaten. Quantum of Solace is stunning, too. I wonder if they can get any better on the MKIV.

  • 05-26-2009 5:32 PM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    Are you shure it only has two hdmi's? as It's ment to have 4 and I need 4... as I have the Virgin box,a sky box a playstation 3 and a Beomaster 5 as well...

    Please advise???

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  • 05-26-2009 5:40 PM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    I need four now I've got an Apple TV (to be connected) and a BS5 on order. Blu-ray drive definitely takes one of them though. Problem! I suppose the PS3 could be used via components if I'm not going to use it for Blu-ray though.

  • 05-26-2009 5:42 PM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    The TV got 4 HDMI inputs, but two of the them are occupied by two internal HDMI connectors! If you dont need the DVB HD function then you can easy pull the HDMI cable out!

     

    So yes it got 4 but are occupied by 2...

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  • 05-26-2009 5:44 PM In reply to

    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    moxxey:

    I need four now I've got an Apple TV (to be connected) and a BS5 on order. Blu-ray drive definitely takes one of them though. Problem! I suppose the PS3 could be used via components if I'm not going to use it for Blu-ray though.

    Moxxey, can I ask what made you go for the appletv and the bs5? Are you going to use the apple tv for photos and movies and the bs5 for music. Or the apple tv for link room? And the bs5 for everyday? Or no reason?
  • 05-26-2009 5:56 PM In reply to

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    Re: BeoVision 7-40 MkIV, First impression

    The plan changed. I bought an Apple TV from the Apple refurbished store last week (29% off) as they rarely come online, thinking I'd use it as the central music distribution system, rather than my old Mac Mini. Then had a decent offer on a BS5 over the weekend (offer I couldn't refuse), so I decided to go with this. However, I don't think this is going to be as effective as my Mac Mini as a central distribution of music. We'll see.

    I might give the Apple TV to someone else. I was tempted to send it back, but as it was 29% off, I think I'll come up with an idea for it.

  • 05-26-2009 6:05 PM In reply to

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    Cool. Offer you couldn't refuse :) sounds interestung :) enjoy them! BS5 and BV7 :)
  • 05-26-2009 10:17 PM In reply to

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    Beolab:

    It is a Samsung BD2500 internal blu-ray with BD Live 2.0, and i can´t see any diffrence btw the Sony s350 we use in the store... 

     

    If this is the case, then DTS-HD decoding can be added via a firmware upgrade as well as reading MP3, JPEG, DivX, etc  

     

    See:

    http://www.samsung.com/us/support/download/supportDownDetail.do?group=audiovideo&type=blu_ray&subtype=blu_raydiscplayers&model_nm=BD-P2500&language=&cate_type=all&mType=FM&dType=D&vType=R&cttID=2043504&prd_ia_cd=03020100&disp_nm=BD-P2500

    Probably a B&O modified firmware has to be used instead of the original one.

    That's good news

    Jean

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