Hi All,

Have the chance to purchase a second hand BVIS 9 unfortunately owing to the nature of my lounge I am not allowed to have extra speakers. In fact I think my better half is quite right there is not enough room!!

 

This means I will be left with a lovely mono TV!! As the BVIS I am purchasing has no HDR or BeoMedia what does anyone think are the chances of stripping down a pair of Blab 4000s and fitting them behind the grill so we can have dolby 3 stereo?

Look forward to your thoughts.

 

 

Yeah cool thinking

Maybe you dont have to strip them, maybe they can fit as they are

I can measure in my BV9 if you want?

IMHO I think that the only way BL4000's would fit is on their sides, i.e. facing upwards - the footprint of a pair of Beolab 3's on stands is almost negligible, why not go for them?  Sorry I don't this will work in practice - or theory - since the spacing between the speakers is too small even if they do fit, for any discernible separation or stereo effect.

BV9 will play in stereo in conjunction with the mono acoustic lens if there is no other speakers connected to it, much like the BS1 speaker set up it has  left and right drivers with individual amps. Check the specs, the speaker setup inside BV9 is more than capable of delivering sound on it's own. Go to a showroom and try it out on it's own. You wont be disappointed!

Or why don't you go for hanging a pair of BL 3 "from the ceiling, wall-close to roof" or even a BL4 pointing downwards from ceiling?

 

Jez:

BV9 will play in stereo in conjunction with the mono acoustic lens if there is no other speakers connected to it, much like the BS1 speaker set up it has  left and right drivers with individual amps. Check the specs, the speaker setup inside BV9 is more than capable of delivering sound on it's own. Go to a showroom and try it out on it's own. You wont be disappointed!

Is this correct?  It is a revelation if true....... but I doubt it - any other views?  Frankly I don't buy it one little bit.

It works in the same way as every other B&O T.V, defaults to mono if there are other speakers connected for surround Sound and stereo if they run on their own, the only difference is that it has a single acoustic lens that defaults to mono because obvisously there is only one Acoustic lens, not two. Same as the bass driver in BS1, BL7.1, BL7.2.

BV5 also worked in the same fashion.

Thanks but I still don't buy it - never before has the BV9 or BL7-40/7-4 been described as a stereo TV and if it were true it would be a key selling point for these TV's if you didn't want additional speakers.  I'm still to be convinced that you don't need additional stereo speakers to use with a 7-4.

Convince her to a pair of extra speakers!

Take her to the shop and "show" her the difference in sound.  

BeoVision 9 tech specs: 2x 250 watt! class D Amps. Range 45-20,000 hz. thats more than any other tv and more than any average pair of speakers, why do you think the BV9 cost so much. the speakers inside it are better than a pair of BL4000's. Obviously the experience is much better once you start investing in the extra experience of surround.

The speaker inside the BeoVision 9 is the same as the BeoLab 7-4. It's a single-point source speaker designed to be used as the centre channel in a surround sound setup. I wouldn't want to mix everything down to mono, you can start to get quite a few nasty phasing issues, even complete cancellation of sound on rare occasions.

If your room is too small for seperate speakers, then how can it be large enough for a BeoVision 9? I personally would go for a BeoVision 7-40 mk3 with a BeoLab 7-2 if I could.

Jez:

BeoVision 9 tech specs: 2x 250 watt! class D Amps. Range 45-20,000 hz. thats more than any other tv and more than any average pair of speakers, why do you think the BV9 cost so much. the speakers inside it are better than a pair of BL4000's. Obviously the experience is much better once you start investing in the extra experience of surround.

It's a mono speaker... 250w for the tweeter and 250w for the woofer.

I'm picturing a pair of BeoLab 3's on wall brackets bolted to the sides of the BV9 and turned on full 'sideways' turn...

I actually go with Alex here - how about a Mk3 7-40 and a 7.2.  That said, i totally and utterly love my BeoVision 9 and wouldn't swap it for anything.. 

Lee 

Lab 2500s would fit with no trouble but iirc you would still have to modify the fret as it is solid behind the cloth except for where the center speaker is!

 

Why 7-2?  7-1 would be better where space is an issue!

So that is settled then, 7-4 in a BV9 is a mono centre speaker only.

Having recently mounted a BeoMedia 1 in a 9'er, I would guess that there isn't enough space for BL4k's in there. And you will have to make new holes in the MDF (it is pre-cut for the built-in MONO center speaker).

But I would go with Lee: 7-40 w/7-2 would be better here (the stereo image is designed around the fact that the tweeters are mounted at each end of the speaker, bass facing down etc) But space must be tight if you can't even fit something like BeoLab 6000 (they can even be wall mounted these days) next to your BV9.

In my opinion, the BV9 does require space to look good, too. If too cramped for additional speakers the look of the set will suffer to.

Roger

Roger:

Having recently mounted a BeoMedia 1 in a 9'er, I would guess that there isn't enough space for BL4k's in there. And you will have to make new holes in the MDF (it is pre-cut for the built-in MONO center speaker).

But I would go with Lee: 7-40 w/7-2 would be better here (the stereo image is designed around the fact that the tweeters are mounted at each end of the speaker, bass facing down etc) But space must be tight if you can't even fit something like BeoLab 6000 (they can even be wall mounted these days) next to your BV9.

In my opinion, the BV9 does require space to look good, too. If too cramped for additional speakers the look of the set will suffer to.

Roger

That looks like the smartest reply so far. It really doesn't sound like you should get this tv unless you move to a space that it's appropriate for it. 

Wow, what a fantastic response, Thank you all for taking the time to help with my matrimonial affairs!

It has to be a BVIS9, will start taking it to bits tonight and seeing what I can fit inside.

StUrrock:

Wow, what a fantastic response, Thank you all for taking the time to help with my matrimonial affairs!

It has to be a BVIS9, will start taking it to bits tonight and seeing what I can fit inside.

Oh hell... god speed little man! 

Start with this

Thanks for the diagram!!

Maybe you need the front diagram also!

 

I hope you'll keep us updated on your progress.  I am in a similar situation.  My local dealer has a BV9 in the store window now, which I'm told will be available at a good discount when they have to put the new BeoSound 5 in the  window.   I think the BV9 would look great at home, but would like the look of fully internal speakers like the BV5.  

Have you thought about installing a pair of BeoVox 1s?  You would have to find a place for the amplifier though.  Can you use the BeoLink Passive for this application?

 

I am gob smacked!! To start chop shopping a BV9 seems incredible. I would favour getting an old BV5, take the screen and innards out and put a new 42" screen and a BS3 in the back. It will be cheaper, will be a little smaller and will be stereo. And will have lots of connections and be HD. You can get rid of the BV9 - I'll send you my address and will manage to dispose of it somehow!