Will anyone own up to liking the Beocentre 2200?  If not, then that surely is the winner

Neil

nobby:

Will anyone own up to liking the Beocentre 2200?  If not, then that surely is the winner

Neil

Can't possibly win because the Beocenter 2000/2002 is even worse!  

You are all wrong!

The worst product ever was the LE6000 television set. A Philips TV from the beginning to end smacked in a low-cost, low-end version of the LX design. The finish was just horrible, the cheapest plastic you could ever find. You could even see the different colours on the scart inputs, blue and orange, just like the Philips set. The OSD was also straight from the philips set and not following the B^O layout and style. I was ashamed every time someone bought one from me, thinking they actually bought a quality set.

Saxpy:

You are all wrong!

The worst product ever was the LE6000 television set. A Philips TV from the beginning to end smacked in a low-cost, low-end version of the LX design. The finish was just horrible, the cheapest plastic you could ever find. You could even see the different colours on the scart inputs, blue and orange, just like the Philips set. The OSD was also straight from the philips set and not following the B^O layout and style. I was ashamed every time someone bought one from me, thinking they actually bought a quality set.

What about the MX 1500 then?

nobby:

Will anyone own up to liking the Beocentre 2200?  If not, then that surely is the winner

Neil

If it wasn't for the half decent turntable section I would agree with you there Neil. It was superbly matched by the appalling Beovox X25's (I'm determined for them to be considered the worst B&O product of all time).

 

Chris.

Chris

 

It is time for you to get off the fence and tell us whether or not  you like the X25s!

 

Simon

j0hnbarker:

What about the MX 1500 then?

 Can't say, that was before my time with B&O... :-)
 

Not a major product, but I have a long standing  dislike for the waterproof IR sensor housing - an ugly box that does nothing for the brand, and when its often the most visible bit of a link area ( patio/pool/garden etc ) its really a poor effort. 

The LE6000 is getting some stick here - which ( a bit like BV8 ) is understandable in some respects, but like BV8, imo these comments miss the point.  Entry level TV's, with retail prices at 30 - 40 % of the flagship models simply can't be judged by the same standards.

The LE served as an introduction to the B&O brand that for many led to an Avant and/or a B&O audio system.  It sold in big numbers, and it was tweaked somewhat, even if its basis was the philips chassis.  The internal speakers were still far better than the rest of the market at the time. 

Also - there are many of these sets still doing good service as second sets or with friends & family - unlike most of the trinitron or quintrix peers, which are probably in landfills.

And finally......an LE6000 TV is currently worth £500 against a BV8 32 or above.  Which is cheap TV for twenty years use.

Medogsfat:

nobby:

Will anyone own up to liking the Beocentre 2200?  If not, then that surely is the winner

Neil

If it wasn't for the half decent turntable section I would agree with you there Neil. It was superbly matched by the appalling Beovox X25's (I'm determined for them to be considered thye worst B&O product of all time).

 

Chris.

Couple of points! The cassette in the 2200 is the same as that in the Beocord 5000; the radio section is actually not bad and the design is splendid. If it had a half decent amplifier, it wouldn't have been bad!

The X25s re difficult to defend as compared to the earlier S22 they were essentially stripped out. Using a cone tweeter at this time was a very odd decision! I suppose their only saving grace was that they were cheap and often included in a package.  

i'm sorry , but anyone who defends the beocentre 2000 should be used for medical experiments

 the only useful thing about it was the plug , at least you could cut it off and use it on a lampshade or something that actually lasted more than 3 days 

KingStreet:

Not a major product, but I have a long standing  dislike for the waterproof IR sensor housing - an ugly box that does nothing for the brand, and when its often the most visible bit of a link area ( patio/pool/garden etc ) its really a poor effort. 

The LE6000 is getting some stick here - which ( a bit like BV8 ) is understandable in some respects, but like BV8, imo these comments miss the point.  Entry level TV's, with retail prices at 30 - 40 % of the flagship models simply can't be judged by the same standards.

The LE served as an introduction to the B&O brand that for many led to an Avant and/or a B&O audio system.  It sold in big numbers, and it was tweaked somewhat, even if its basis was the philips chassis.  The internal speakers were still far better than the rest of the market at the time. 

Also - there are many of these sets still doing good service as second sets or with friends & family - unlike most of the trinitron or quintrix peers, which are probably in landfills.

And finally......an LE6000 TV is currently worth £500 against a BV8 32 or above.  Which is cheap TV for twenty years use.

I think you sell the BV8 short! That is a fine set with a number of definite B&O flourishes. The LE6000 on the other hand was a scam - it was a Philips set in drag - single cheap full range speakers were fitted so the sound was not likely to be any better than an average set. Tim's view on Beocentral says it all really! I think experience of this set was more likely to put people off! It was still expensive compared to alternatives from other makes that outperformed it. The LX6000 on the other hand was and still is a delight! However your point about the £500 is very well made!

Hi:

 

The most badly designed product for me even though I want one is the Beovision 1 high stand (I mean the very high one). went to a friend's house and his kids were running around. One grabbed the pole of the stand and started shaking it. The "coconut" atop the aluminium trunk nearly came crashing to the floor.

 

I know it is not designed to be pushed/puled or climbed upon. However, that TV is heavy and expensive and if it comes crashing down it would kill a child and seriously damage furniture or an adult.

KingStreet:

Not a major product, but I have a long standing  dislike for the waterproof IR sensor housing - an ugly box that does nothing for the brand, and when its often the most visible bit of a link area ( patio/pool/garden etc ) its really a poor effort. 

The LE6000 is getting some stick here - which ( a bit like BV8 ) is understandable in some respects, but like BV8, imo these comments miss the point.  Entry level TV's, with retail prices at 30 - 40 % of the flagship models simply can't be judged by the same standards.

The LE served as an introduction to the B&O brand that for many led to an Avant and/or a B&O audio system.  It sold in big numbers, and it was tweaked somewhat, even if its basis was the philips chassis.  The internal speakers were still far better than the rest of the market at the time. 

Also - there are many of these sets still doing good service as second sets or with friends & family - unlike most of the trinitron or quintrix peers, which are probably in landfills.

And finally......an LE6000 TV is currently worth £500 against a BV8 32 or above.  Which is cheap TV for twenty years use.

I'm not having a problem with the business rationale of the LE6000 and I agree with you on most points. However, I still maintain that it was one of the worst products due to the almost complete abscense of B&O "look and feel" of that time. Oh, and the V3000 that came out at the same time was not really something to be proud of either... :-)  A Hitiachi VCR painted all-black...

my comments on the bc2200 from another thread some time ago...

yes, i did defend it!

http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/permalink/94878/94873/ShowThread.aspx#94873

re: this thread... hmmm... until they get it squared away -the beo5

wirralsimon:

Chris

 

It is time for you to get off the fence and tell us whether or not  you like the X25s!

 

Simon

AND they are greyer than John Major after rolling in a dust bath just to ensure total banality.

Serenata, Serene, Sammy/B&O mp3....

 

Peter,

The LE 6000 has two redeeming features ... the tube can be used to repair an MX7000 ... surely no bad thing.  The contrast screen is identical to the one on your LX6000

Neil

and if you turn it on it's side it makes a handy wastebasket

I'll vote for the DVD2 ! Nice packaging, but cheap interior.

Mike. 

DVD2 can have my vote too!

 

BUT my alltime number ONE Worst B&O Design Ever: The cabinet designed for the BV3!!! D. Lewis must have been on vacation... and his team must have been smoking some serious pot when designing/releasing/selling this thing...

 

That's furniture - I don't think furniture should count? Does it contain an electric circuit should be a base criterium ... oui? Can it be thrown against the wall with ease could be another!

MMmm furniture doesn't count? Damn... in that case.. Game/set/match for the DVD2

Never realised what I would start with this topic. I'ts been going on for days now.

For me, the BeoSound6 is one of the ugliest B&O-products ever.

Tom:

For me, the BeoSound6 is one of the ugliest B&O-products ever.

BeoSound 6 doesn't count - it's a Samsung design!