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  • 12-20-2007 11:19 PM

    Philips prestigo universal remote

    http://www.prestigo.philips.com/en/gb/Overview.html

    As far as I can tell this should also work with the B&O range. IMHO quite a pretty remote and costs ca. 15% of the Beo5.

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  • 12-21-2007 6:54 AM In reply to

    Re: Philips prestigo universal remote

    Anyone know whether B&O is in their preprogrammed list of controlled brands? I see they're doing 455 IR, but would be nice to be certain.

  • 12-21-2007 7:04 AM In reply to

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    Re: Philips prestigo universal remote

    B&O devices are included apparently - you can search here

    Generally speaking, you aren't learning much if your lips are moving.

  • 12-21-2007 7:06 AM In reply to

    Re: Philips prestigo universal remote

    I've both downloaded the manual and searched the Philips site. There are no lists of the brands it's specified for. Just wondered whether the original poster had direct experience.

  • 12-21-2007 7:12 AM In reply to

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    Re: Philips prestigo universal remote

    I checked the link I posted and it definitely does give codes for B&O TV's - I never checked for music systems.

    Edit : just had another go

     


    Generally speaking, you aren't learning much if your lips are moving.

  • 12-21-2007 7:19 AM In reply to

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    Thanks Puncher - just learned something new!

  • 01-01-2008 4:13 PM In reply to

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    Hi,

    Many thanks for the heads up on this thing. With nine remote controls taking over a side table here, I had to do something about the clutter sooner or later, so I bought a Prestigo yesterday. £99.95 from Richer Sounds (though it's a tad cheaper on Amazon.)  Here's what I think of it so far....

     

    A brief overview of the Philips Prestigo SRU8015 after 24 hours use.

    Testing on original B&O equipment of Beocenter 8500, Beogram 3300, and Beolink 1000.

    Basic functions:

    The Beocenter 8500 was assigned to "Audio Set" on the first of four possible B&O device codes. (The other three haven't been tried.)

    Can it select Radio, Tape 1, CD, Phono, Tape 2, and Aux?
    Yes, all. It can either select these from the "MORE" menu under "Audio Set" or it can also assign dedicated Tuner, CD and Tape devices.

    Do "Volume up", "Volume down", "Mute", "Sound", and "Power off" keys work?
    Yes, all. The "Sound" key is accessed from the "MORE" menu under "Audio Set" as "Speaker". (Stereo/Mono and Loudness on/off functions work in this submenu too.)

    Is there a "Reset" key as well?
    Yes, accessed from the "MORE" menu as "Counter Reset".

    Radio:

    Do numeric, "next channel", and "previous channel" keys work?
    Yes, all.

    Tape:

    Do "play", "stop", "forward wind", "reverse wind", "forward search", "reverse search", and "record" keys work?
    Yes, all.

    Is there a "turn" key as well?
    Yes, accessed from the "MORE" menu as "Band".

    CD:

    Do numeric, "next channel", "previous channel", "fast forward", "fast reverse", "stop", and "play" keys work?
    Yes, all.

    Phono:

    Do "play", "stop", "forward step", and "reverse step" keys work?
    Yes, all.

    Niggles:

    The "Power" and "AV" keys (they're set apart from the others, above the LCD display) do not illuminate.
    The keys, especially the transport (i.e. "play", "stop", etc.) ones, are small - operating them with the thumb needs care. They're also smooth, which doesn't help.
    The rotary wheel has a slight recoil drift.
    The "Favourites" custom list doesn't include radio stations - it's only for TV channels.
    The "Activities" custom list is added into the main menu along with the primary devices - too many "Activities" would clutter it up, a separate menu would be tidier.
    Learning mode (my surround sound wasn't in the database) can be a bit hit and miss before some keys work properly.
    Firmware updates (as per, e.g., Harmon Kardan's TC30) don't appear to be possible.
    The main menu of primary devices cannot be rearranged - devices are added to the bottom of the list and cannot later be moved up/down.
    The list of functions in the "MORE" menu is generic rather than appropriate to the specific device assigned. It's too cluttered, and deleting the superflous items would take a long time.
    There's no direct device code setting (as per the lesser SRU9600) so if a device isn't recognised then there's no alternative to scanning through the entire database for a code other than learning every key. (You can pause and resume the scan though.)

    Initial impressions:

    It has a marginally bigger footprint than the Beolink and is twice as thick.
    It's much lighter, too - all plastic construction makes the three AA batteries the main ballast.
    Key illumination is very effective (and the brightness can be customised.)
    It's prettier than the Beolink (not difficult) but doesn't feel as good either to hold or to use. The dark grey base and silver surround strip are matt, and don't look as if they'll scratch up too easily. The top panel, however, is high gloss black that looks a lot less cosmetically durable - fortunately it's protected against most scrapes by the buttons.
    It's a poor man's Beo-5 in pretty much every respect. The functionality may be similar but it's strictly utilitarian in that it's not a pleasure to have nestled in the palm of your hand, no exuding of quality, it's just another remote control.

    Cheers,

    Steve 

  • 01-06-2008 9:09 AM In reply to

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    Re: Philips prestigo universal remote

    Thank you, Steve, for this review.

    I am thinking about buying this - would you say it's worth a try?

    As the Beo5, although very nice, is a bit too pricy imo this would make a decent alternative.

    Best regards,
    Ben 

  • 01-06-2008 9:38 AM In reply to

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    Hi Ben,

    I'm not unhappy with mine so far - those niggles weren't deal-breakers for me. If all you have is B&O then a Beolink 1000 off eBay is a much better buy and cheaper too. If like me you have a slew of non-B&O as well then it starts to make more sense, and more sense than a one-4-all-except-one. I think the Beo5 is more than just very nice, but it just costs more than I'm prepared to spend on just a remote. If the Philips dies on me after a year's use, of course, I'll be changing my tune. Gotta be worth a try - or wait and ask me again next year!

    Cheers,

    Steve 

  • 01-06-2008 11:55 AM In reply to

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    Re: Philips prestigo universal remote

    Thanks for that, Steve!

    Until recently I only had B&O together with a chipped-for-beo Kiss DVD but my MX4000 is unfortunately faulty now and with a non-beo TV the Kiss DVD is obsolete.

    Now as I moved to a new apartment with my girlfriend between us we have a Philips flat screen, Sony DVD,BS6500 with BG4500 and BL5000's.

    I think I'll give it a try Smile
     

  • 01-06-2008 3:58 PM In reply to

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    I had a chance to play with one at a local computer store today.  While I can not comment on the functionality - it did feel like a cheap piece of plastic.... hence, I will stick with what I have.  
  • 01-08-2008 7:54 AM In reply to

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    Re: Philips prestigo universal remote

    Well, at the mo I have two even cheaper pieces of plastic along with Beo4 - looking forward to yet another cheap piece of plastic when I'm forced to get a stb. I don't watch much TV, hence I don't want to pay for one now. And after learning that Beo5 must be configured by the dealer I actually don't want one - I like to do what little I can do by myself.

    Prestigo 8015 is now ordered. I will report back when I have some experience with the thing :)

  • 01-08-2008 4:23 PM In reply to

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    With the exception of B&O all remotes come across as cheap bits of plastic I'm afraid. (Actually, I lie - I used to have a rather nice videoplus remote that took care of programming multiple devices as well as doing remote duties.)

    Dealer configuration put me off a bit, too. My local dealer is only about ten minutes walk away from me, but even so...

    Cheers, Steve
     

  • 01-23-2008 3:58 PM In reply to

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    Re: Philips prestigo universal remote

    I received the SRU8015 today and have just spent some time setting it up. I'll have to say it really is a clever toy!

    Setting up my Philips flat LCD TV, Sony DVD and BS6500 up was flawless and incredibly easy. As far as my experience goes by now everything works as it should with full functionality. Changing between devices couldn't be easier.

    Handling the remote is quite nice. A Beo4 you can appreciate just holding without even doing anything - it's nothing like that but still not bad.
    I was afraid it would be feather light but fortunately it is reasonably weighty - almost as heavy as the Beo4.

    Size: Lenght is about 6/7 of a Beo4, width about 5/4 of a Beo4 and depth about 4/3 of a Beo4

    The finish is glossy plastic on the front and matte plastic on the black. I would liked it in matte finish all over so that fingerprints wouldn't be easily visible. It is made of plastic, yes, but it is still a lot nicer than most remotes.

    The buttons seem robust and have a pleasant level of tactile feedback. Layout is kept simple which is very nice

    The screen is excellent. It is very clear and has good resolution.

     

    All in all I'm happy with it and also very happy to get rid of the native Sony and Philips remotes.
    No need to say I would control everything with my Beo4 if I could but the SRU8015 is definitely worth a try if you want to get rid of multiple crappy remote controls.

    8/10 Smile

    Sorry for the bad photo. I just snapped one quick with my mobile. 

  • 01-23-2008 5:53 PM In reply to

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    Glad you're happy with it.

    Cheers, Steve 

  • 01-23-2008 7:05 PM In reply to

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    Re: Philips prestigo universal remote

    That photo makes the beo 4 look newer than the philips! I would opt for a lintronic to control other things

    “Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of intelligent effort.”

    Your health and well-being comes first and fore-most.

     

     

  • 01-24-2008 4:41 AM In reply to

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    Re: Philips prestigo universal remote

    I would go for Beo5 before Lintronic!

    The Prestigo is a lot simpler than Lintronic and a lot cheaper, too - and a LOT cheaper than Beo5.

    I'll post some better pics when I get around to it.

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  • 01-24-2008 3:03 PM In reply to

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    I followed your lead, Benkap, and went for one of these remotes. I have a mix of Apple, STB, Pioneer Kuro, BL5s and a receiver that I got chatting with one another in about an hour. Quite nice.

    Look and feel definitely downmarket from the Beo4 - but it does what I need in my viewing/listening room and I like the fact that it is a learning remote. Will teach it the Apple Remote commands later this evening. (Strangely, that was not in the menu of devices.)

    Allows me to stash away a number of remotes, just keeping them on hand for "fine-tuning."

    ADDING:

    Teaching it the Apple Remote controls was a cinch - even managed to teach it fast scroll up and down!
     

  • 01-25-2008 3:37 AM In reply to

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    Re: Philips prestigo universal remote

    To be fair, I would call it Steve's lead Smile

    It is a very well working remote, though. I almost feel like getting some more stuff just so I can control it with the same remote control Wink

  • 01-25-2008 5:14 AM In reply to

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    Thanks, Ben Smile

    And lets not forget  Terrapolitan who found it in the first place.

    I like to spread the blame Big Smile

    Cheers, Steve

  • 01-25-2008 5:24 AM In reply to

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    Yes - I am filled with remorse here, and wish the Kudos to be fairly distributed to the thread originators (or blame).

    I wish I had the Beo4 look and feel with this functionality. Day 2 now, and I can't really believe that all those remotes are in a cupboard. I was originally planning to use irTrans/iRed, but it seems they are still in beta with iRed 2.0 for the iPod Touch.

    I programmed a really nifty power-down sequence that switches off everything, including the BL5s. And I like that I was even able to put away the Apple Remote.

    One does notice what a powerful IR-transmitter the Beo4 is, though. That you can point in any direction you want -- the Prestigo I have to point directly at each loudspeaker to power them down or up. 

  • 03-13-2008 7:50 PM In reply to

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    Did you guys have to do some complicated setup to make Prestigio work with B&O? Or did you just pick a code for b&o from the database ?

    I'm thinking to buy a SRU 9600. I think it fits b&o's design better. I know it cant learn signals from other remotes.

    Can SRU 8015 learn from Beo4 ?? Any other known differencies between 8015 and 9600 ?

  • 03-14-2008 3:48 AM In reply to

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    Re: Philips prestigo universal remote

    milton99:

    Did you guys have to do some complicated setup to make Prestigio work with B&O? Or did you just pick a code for b&o from the database ?

    I'm thinking to buy a SRU 9600. I think it fits b&o's design better. I know it cant learn signals from other remotes.

    Can SRU 8015 learn from Beo4 ?? Any other known differencies between 8015 and 9600 ?

    This was discussed earlier in the thread - the codes are in the database.

    Generally speaking, you aren't learning much if your lips are moving.

  • 03-14-2008 5:10 AM In reply to

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    Re: Philips prestigo universal remote

    milton99:

    Did you guys have to do some complicated setup to make Prestigio work with B&O? Or did you just pick a code for b&o from the database ?

    I'm thinking to buy a SRU 9600. I think it fits b&o's design better. I know it cant learn signals from other remotes.

    Can SRU 8015 learn from Beo4 ?? Any other known differencies between 8015 and 9600 ?

    Setting up theSRU 8015 was quite simple and basically foolproof - i managed!

    SRU8015 can learn codes from any remote including the Beo4. For instance I coded the Beo4 code for TAPE 1 into the SRU8015 and named it COMPUTER. That is now my Airport Express button.

    If you are thinking of buying the SRU9600 because of it looks I would only do so after seeing it in real life. It is supposedly quite bulky and unhandy. Also, the SRU8015's scroll wheel is pretty useful. It doesn't look too bad either - nothing near Beo4 but not bad.

    Hope it helps Smile

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