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Latest post 11-23-2007 4:45 AM by Beolab. 28 replies.
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  • 10-06-2007 9:09 AM

    BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    Hi all,

    me too I'm planning to go for the new BV7-40 mkIII (actually, I have a BV7 32, 18 months old).

    Do you now if it will be a 100 Hz full HD, as the new F8 Samsung series (40" and 46", Full HD, 100 Hz and Motion plus). 

    It seems that 100 Hz full HD tecnology, in this panel, give a fantastic images.

    My dealer told me that only in spring 2008, the new BV7-40 mkIII will improve a 100 Hz tecnology...

    Any rumors about it...

     

  • 10-06-2007 9:26 AM In reply to

    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    Gabriel65:

    It seems that 100 Hz full HD tecnology, in this panel, give a fantastic images.

    My dealer told me that only in spring 2008, the new BV7-40 mkIII will improve a 100 Hz tecnology...

     

    Hi Gabriel, welcome to the forum!

    I agree totally with you !!!

    I've seen live in action the 100Hz technology in this LCD Sharp just side by side to the last Samsung lcd panel and the Pioneer plasma kuro last G8 generation blablabla...etc, and the improvement in the moving picture section is really AMAZING (even if the sharp panel has huge problems in areas like: real blacks and colours, or contrast levels) exactly the same that in the old CRTs world, 100Hz is clearly a must, and for my eyes the "no flickering" effect is essential when watching tv.

    I really hope that B&O soon put into action this technology.

    Regards. 

    Santiago

  • 10-06-2007 8:53 PM In reply to

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    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    Was it a real B&O dealer ho said that? If thats is true they most change the name to Bv 7-40 MK IV. I don´t think they will do that this year.. Perhaps in the late 2008. 

    My new MK III i haven´t picked up jet are already old..  [:'(]

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  • 10-07-2007 3:58 AM In reply to

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    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    Beolab:

    My new MK III i haven´t picked up jet are already old..  [:'(]

    Beolab, stop worrying! You're never going to 'beat' technology advancements. We've already established on here that the new BV7-40 MKIII is probably the best (or one of the best) flatpanel TVs available. There's no way that B&O will announce a 100Mhz panel any time soon. If anything does happen with a 100Mhz panel, I bet it's simply included without any fanfare, in the future. B&O won't want MKIII users seeking to upgrade again and repeat the MKII -> MKIII jump. There won't be a MK IV for some time.

  • 10-07-2007 5:05 AM In reply to

    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    I agree with moxxey. I have been buying Apple's Macs ever since 1985. Whenever I bought one (and there have been quite a few) there was something better that came along shortly afterwards. After a while you realize that this is quite OK, and that you do not have to trade "up" whenever a new spec is available. In the case of the Macs I'm probably not using more than 15% of the processing power in the one I'm using now, if that.

    As to image technology and resolution. It will keep improving. I hung on to my BeoVision CRT for a long time, until I finally saw flat panels catching up over the last twelve months. I now have a plasma screen and a BeoVision 8, and I know I'll have them around for a long time, providing a lot of viewing pleasure -- no matter what's coming down the pipeline!

    We already have flatscreens with a resolution they can't really display (Full-HD) intended for large screen projection. And people are speaking of higher resolutions yet, in the tech-spec wars taking place between manufacturers. There's a point at which one should say: this serves my purpose.

    I will grant you that having a fast pulse (100Hz) screen is probably preferable to lower rates. Though you should realize that when you're in the cinema, you're watching 48 Hz projection (each image is shown twice, to trick the brain past the threshold where it discerns between separate images) -- and cinema projection works alright, doesn't it?

     

     

     

  • 10-07-2007 5:22 AM In reply to

    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    Beolab:

    Was it a real B&O dealer ho said that? If thats is true they most change the name to Bv 7-40 MK IV. I don´t think they will do that this year.. Perhaps in the late 2008. 

    My new MK III i haven´t picked up jet are already old..  [:'(]

     

    Hmm not sure about that. Remember the time between BV9MKI and BV9MKII..... 

  • 10-07-2007 5:51 AM In reply to

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    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    ....mr anders(son):

    Hmm not sure about that. Remember the time between BV9MKI and BV9MKII..... 

    The thing is, Beoworld users are very different from the average B&O customer. For instance, the guys on the ground floor apartment in my building have an old Avant and BV6-22 and are happy with both, yet on here many a person has said that the original BV6 has a poor screen. They don't know much about technology enhancements, particularly HD or panel updates.

    If you're going to invest big money in B&O kit, you have to take the rough with the smooth. The big downside is that B&O kit is no guarantee against technology improvements. Buy a BV7 and you'll seen an updated panel within a year. Buy a BV9 and the same applies.

    One thing that hasn't changed is that B&O kit retains a value. Buy a BV7-40 MKIII and if you wanted to upgrade to a new TV in a couple of years, I'd said you'd still get a few thousand pounds against the old TV. If I'd bought a £3000 Sony 32" LCD in 2004 - which was an alternative I was considering - I'd be lucky if I could sell this on eBay, in 2007, for more than £100! Whereas my MK1 BV7-32 is still worth around £4000 with the BL7.1 and HD upgrade.

  • 10-07-2007 9:33 PM In reply to

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    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    Now i finally have my BV7 MK III  ! ( In my bedroom=)

    Take a look at my tread an you can see a hint of the image quality of my MK III : http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/ShowThread.aspx?PostID=53197#53190   I don´t see how it could be better by 100HZ or 24p?? I can´t see any motion artefacts at all..

    And the coloring are crisp and sick! ;) Take a look=) 

    http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder/769/beovision-7-mk-lll-dark-grey

     http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder-a/beovision_7_mk_lll_dark_grey-112.jpg

    http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder-a/beovision_7_mk_lll_dark_grey-229.jpg

    http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder-a/beovision_7_mk_lll_dark_grey-322.jpg

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  • 10-08-2007 3:14 AM In reply to

    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    i wouldn't get too carried away with all the hype surrounding 24p / 100hz etc

    my brother just bought a sony 32d3000 which has all the bells and whistles picture wise - only thing is - we ended up turning them all off as the picture just looks weird , the much trumpeted 100hz feature makes everything look like it's moving in treacle and all the other oddball 'enhancements' utterly ruin the picture , so bad it reminded me of a loewe

     i think there's a lot to be said for bno's 'keep it simple' ethos

    popgear is grate™

  • 10-08-2007 7:03 AM In reply to

    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    I wonder if you saw the latest Loewe Compose with 100Hz technology, and twin-dvb-s/c/t tuner, integrated harddisk. I guess not. Absolutely stunning picture and very competitive to the MKIII. Although I did not see the new MKIII yet.
  • 10-08-2007 7:07 AM In reply to

    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    24p is something different then 100HZ technology for LCD.

    100HZ technology for LCD televisions from a certain level becomes pretty standard now. So it would be a big shame if B&O did not include it now in it 's new MKIII model.

     

    You really have much less blurr with the 100HZ technology.

  • 10-08-2007 8:10 AM In reply to

    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    The Loewe Individual Compose is substantially cheaper than a BV7,and is available in both 40",and 46" size panels,with the 40" model,with floorstanding speakers costing about £3250.

    The current edition of the UK magazine "What Video & High-Definition TV" has a generally very favourable review of the 40" Individual Compose.

  • 10-08-2007 4:24 PM In reply to

    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    I agree with moxxey (10-07-2007, 5:51).

    Anyway, the forthcoming BV7 Mk III will be 50 Hz and it upgrades in the 2008.

    We can see it in a few days...and sharing our impression about new chassis and new panel.

     

  • 10-08-2007 4:52 PM In reply to

    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    Will there also be a new chassis ? I'm the "lucky" owner of a one year old 7-40 MKII..

    I wonder how the market will go, and how the MKII's can be upgraded to MKIII's. If ionly the flatpanel could be updated, I could probably live without the BS3.

    The Dane 

     

     

    Maybe this is as good as it gets... BV7-40 MKII, BL9, BC2, BL6000, MX4000, Beosound 3, HDR1
  • 10-08-2007 5:38 PM In reply to

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    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    Niveau:

    Will there also be a new chassis ? I'm the "lucky" owner of a one year old 7-40 MKII..

    I wonder how the market will go, and how the MKII's can be upgraded to MKIII's. If ionly the flatpanel could be updated, I could probably live without the BS3.

    Sadly you won't just be able to update the panel. The MKIII is an entirely new TV with an updated BS3-based chassis. You can't 'upgrade' a MKII to a MKIII, you can only trade it in and pay for an upgrade to the new TV.

  • 10-09-2007 1:03 AM In reply to

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    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    Gabriel65:

    I agree with moxxey (10-07-2007, 5:51).

    Anyway, the forthcoming BV7 Mk III will be 50 Hz and it upgrades in the 2008.

    We can see it in a few days...and sharing our impression about new chassis and new panel.

     

    Now i finally have my BV7 MK III  ! ( In my bedroom=)

    Take a look at my tread an you can see a hint of the image quality of my MK III : http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/ShowThread.aspx?PostID=53197#53190   I don´t see how it could be better by 100HZ or 24p?? I can´t see any motion artefacts at all..

    And the coloring are crisp and sick! ;) Take a look=) 

    1. Lost 2: http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder/770/beovision-7-mk-lll-dark-grey

    2. http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder/771/beovision-7-mk-lll-dark-grey

    3. http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder/769/beovision-7-mk-lll-dark-grey

     

    http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder-a/beovision_7_mk_lll_dark_grey-322.jpg

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  • 10-09-2007 1:05 AM In reply to

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    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    Amen....

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  • 10-09-2007 12:48 PM In reply to

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    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    Are there any such thing as a BV7"32 mkIII (BeoVision 7"32Full HD version)?
  • 10-09-2007 2:43 PM In reply to

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    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    No.
  • 10-09-2007 2:56 PM In reply to

    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    To be honest, I don 't understand why B&O did not include the 100HZ technology right now. It is available for months now.

    By the way. A beauty to look at. The new BV7. But I miss the red letters in the screen :-)

  • 10-09-2007 4:29 PM In reply to

    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    Beolab,

    what to say... it seems amazing ...

    Could you say more about standard definition source. For example, what about TV performance? How does it work with BS3 upscaled? Does it works better than the mkII or not? And what about DVD performance...

     Thanks in advance

     

     

  • 10-10-2007 2:36 AM In reply to

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    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

    I read an very interesting article about 100HZ / 24p in the Swedish magazine  Hemmabio (= Home Cinema) today!

    The article described that the 100Hz and 24p technology are just a selling nonsense!! Because 24p and 100Hz dissent work so very well together!  

    If we do a little simple math here.. If you take 100 divided with 24 you get 4.1 pictures. And then take 4 x 24 you get 96 pictures. It docent sync at all with 100Hz as the manufactures say.

    I could be therefore B&O doesn't put the 100Hz 24p technology in the BV 7 or BV 9 Full HD because it´s not going to approve the picture just more struggle  for the video possessing to calculate. = More artefact's!

    They did mentioned in the article that some High End  brands haven't jumped on this 100Hz train yet, because it´s a "dog hidden some where" they didn't say any names but i can assume they meant B&O for example..

    I trust the great high speed in the processor of my inbuilt BS3, so i don´t need the 100Hz 24p nonsense talk...!! I can´t see any motion sickness at all !?

    Why do i  need 100Hz 24p then..!

     

    Regards Storm

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  • 10-10-2007 2:50 AM In reply to

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    Re: BV7-40 mkIII 100Hz?

     Look here: http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/ShowThread.aspx?PostID=53197#53190

     

    With standard aerial signal you get what you feed it with so it is a few steps better than the MK II.. ( Crap in gold out=)

    But with DVD it´s like welcome to Paradise! The picture have tons of micro detail and the upscaling to 1080p HD must be one of the best upscaling in the world or i have ever seen!

    The colors are rich and have great dept and everything looks so real.. no plastic feeling in the picture...

    Here you can get a glimts on the PQ upscaled...  (DVD playback... )

    1. Lost 2: http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder/770/beovision-7-mk-lll-dark-grey

    2. http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder/771/beovision-7-mk-lll-dark-grey

    3. http://www.ladda-upp.com/bilder/769/beovision-7-mk-lll-dark-grey

     

    Regards

     

    BL8000 MkII Black

  • 10-10-2007 4:25 PM In reply to

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    Beolab

    it looks fantastic!!!

    I go for it.

    See you soon 

     

     

  • 10-26-2007 7:09 AM In reply to

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    Santiago:
    Gabriel65:

    It seems that 100 Hz full HD tecnology, in this panel, give a fantastic images.

    My dealer told me that only in spring 2008, the new BV7-40 mkIII will improve a 100 Hz tecnology...

     

    I really hope that B&O soon put into action this technology.

    Finally this event has been confirmed by my dealer too.

    BeoSystem3 and BV7-40 will fit the 100Hz technology next year Party!!! however there isn't a fix date yet. 

    I've already started saving anyway Cool

    Regards. 

    Santiago

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