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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 11-23-2007 4:45 AM by Beolab. 28 replies.
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10-06-2007 9:09 AM
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Gabriel65
- Joined on 04-24-2007
- Posts 6
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Hi all, me too I'm planning to go for the new BV7-40 mkIII (actually, I have a BV7 32, 18 months old). Do you now if it will be a 100 Hz full HD, as the new F8 Samsung series (40" and 46", Full HD, 100 Hz and Motion plus). It seems that 100 Hz full HD tecnology, in this panel, give a fantastic images. My dealer told me that only in spring 2008, the new BV7-40 mkIII will improve a 100 Hz tecnology... Any rumors about it...
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Santiago
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Switzerland
- Posts 3,286
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Gabriel65: It seems that 100 Hz full HD tecnology, in this panel, give a fantastic images. My dealer told me that only in spring 2008, the new BV7-40 mkIII will improve a 100 Hz tecnology...
Hi Gabriel, welcome to the forum! I agree totally with you !!!
I've seen live in action the 100Hz technology in this LCD Sharp just side by side to the last Samsung lcd panel and the Pioneer plasma kuro last G8 generation blablabla...etc, and the improvement in the moving picture section is really AMAZING (even if the sharp panel has huge problems in areas like: real blacks and colours, or contrast levels) exactly the same that in the old CRTs world, 100Hz is clearly a must, and for my eyes the "no flickering" effect is essential when watching tv. I really hope that B&O soon put into action this technology. Regards.
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Beolab
- Joined on 05-18-2007
- Sweden
- Posts 535
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Was it a real B&O dealer ho said that? If thats is true they most change the name to Bv 7-40 MK IV. I don´t think they will do that this year.. Perhaps in the late 2008. My new MK III i haven´t picked up jet are already old.. [:'(]
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moxxey
- Joined on 04-14-2007
- South West, UK
- Posts 2,360
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Beolab: My new MK III i haven´t picked up jet are already old.. [:'(]
Beolab, stop worrying! You're never going to 'beat' technology advancements. We've already established on here that the new BV7-40 MKIII is probably the best (or one of the best) flatpanel TVs available. There's no way that B&O will announce a 100Mhz panel any time soon. If anything does happen with a 100Mhz panel, I bet it's simply included without any fanfare, in the future. B&O won't want MKIII users seeking to upgrade again and repeat the MKII -> MKIII jump. There won't be a MK IV for some time.
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soundproof
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Posts 2,340
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I agree with moxxey. I have been buying Apple's Macs ever since 1985. Whenever I bought one (and there have been quite a few) there was something better that came along shortly afterwards. After a while you realize that this is quite OK, and that you do not have to trade "up" whenever a new spec is available. In the case of the Macs I'm probably not using more than 15% of the processing power in the one I'm using now, if that. As to image technology and resolution. It will keep improving. I hung on to my BeoVision CRT for a long time, until I finally saw flat panels catching up over the last twelve months. I now have a plasma screen and a BeoVision 8, and I know I'll have them around for a long time, providing a lot of viewing pleasure -- no matter what's coming down the pipeline! We already have flatscreens with a resolution they can't really display (Full-HD) intended for large screen projection. And people are speaking of higher resolutions yet, in the tech-spec wars taking place between manufacturers. There's a point at which one should say: this serves my purpose.
I will grant you that having a fast pulse (100Hz) screen is probably preferable to lower rates. Though you should realize that when you're in the cinema, you're watching 48 Hz projection (each image is shown twice, to trick the brain past the threshold where it discerns between separate images) -- and cinema projection works alright, doesn't it?
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mr_anders_son
- Joined on 03-27-2007
- sweden
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Beolab: Was it a real B&O dealer ho said that? If thats is true they most change the name to Bv 7-40 MK IV. I don´t think they will do that this year.. Perhaps in the late 2008. My new MK III i haven´t picked up jet are already old.. [:'(]
Hmm not sure about that. Remember the time between BV9MKI and BV9MKII.....
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moxxey
- Joined on 04-14-2007
- South West, UK
- Posts 2,360
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....mr anders(son): Hmm not sure about that. Remember the time between BV9MKI and BV9MKII.....
The thing is, Beoworld users are very different from the average B&O customer. For instance, the guys on the ground floor apartment in my building have an old Avant and BV6-22 and are happy with both, yet on here many a person has said that the original BV6 has a poor screen. They don't know much about technology enhancements, particularly HD or panel updates. If you're going to invest big money in B&O kit, you have to take the rough with the smooth. The big downside is that B&O kit is no guarantee against technology improvements. Buy a BV7 and you'll seen an updated panel within a year. Buy a BV9 and the same applies. One thing that hasn't changed is that B&O kit retains a value. Buy a BV7-40 MKIII and if you wanted to upgrade to a new TV in a couple of years, I'd said you'd still get a few thousand pounds against the old TV. If I'd bought a £3000 Sony 32" LCD in 2004 - which was an alternative I was considering - I'd be lucky if I could sell this on eBay, in 2007, for more than £100! Whereas my MK1 BV7-32 is still worth around £4000 with the BL7.1 and HD upgrade.
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Flappo The Grate
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Posts 703
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i wouldn't get too carried away with all the hype surrounding 24p / 100hz etc my brother just bought a sony 32d3000 which has all the bells and whistles picture wise - only thing is - we ended up turning them all off as the picture just looks weird , the much trumpeted 100hz feature makes everything look like it's moving in treacle and all the other oddball 'enhancements' utterly ruin the picture , so bad it reminded me of a loewe i think there's a lot to be said for bno's 'keep it simple' ethos
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Bingo
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Posts 922
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24p is something different then 100HZ technology for LCD. 100HZ technology for LCD televisions from a certain level becomes pretty standard now. So it would be a big shame if B&O did not include it now in it 's new MKIII model. You really have much less blurr with the 100HZ technology.
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TerryM
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Posts 208
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The Loewe Individual Compose is substantially cheaper than a BV7,and is available in both 40",and 46" size panels,with the 40" model,with floorstanding speakers costing about £3250. The current edition of the UK magazine "What Video & High-Definition TV" has a generally very favourable review of the 40" Individual Compose.
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Gabriel65
- Joined on 04-24-2007
- Posts 6
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I agree with moxxey (10-07-2007, 5:51). Anyway, the forthcoming BV7 Mk III will be 50 Hz and it upgrades in the 2008. We can see it in a few days...and sharing our impression about new chassis and new panel.
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Niveau
- Joined on 09-25-2007
- Posts 63
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Will there also be a new chassis ? I'm the "lucky" owner of a one year old 7-40 MKII.. I wonder how the market will go, and how the MKII's can be upgraded to MKIII's. If ionly the flatpanel could be updated, I could probably live without the BS3. The Dane
Maybe this is as good as it gets...
BV7-40 MKII, BL9, BC2, BL6000, MX4000, Beosound 3, HDR1
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moxxey
- Joined on 04-14-2007
- South West, UK
- Posts 2,360
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Niveau: Will there also be a new chassis ? I'm the "lucky" owner of a one year old 7-40 MKII.. I wonder how the market will go, and how the MKII's can be upgraded to MKIII's. If ionly the flatpanel could be updated, I could probably live without the BS3.
Sadly you won't just be able to update the panel. The MKIII is an entirely new TV with an updated BS3-based chassis. You can't 'upgrade' a MKII to a MKIII, you can only trade it in and pay for an upgrade to the new TV.
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Lene
- Joined on 10-08-2007
- Posts 7
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Are there any such thing as a BV7"32 mkIII ( BeoVision 7"32Full HD version)?
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Bingo
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Posts 922
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To be honest, I don 't understand why B&O did not include the 100HZ technology right now. It is available for months now. By the way. A beauty to look at. The new BV7. But I miss the red letters in the screen :-)
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Gabriel65
- Joined on 04-24-2007
- Posts 6
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Beolab, what to say... it seems amazing ... Could you say more about standard definition source. For example, what about TV performance? How does it work with BS3 upscaled? Does it works better than the mkII or not? And what about DVD performance... Thanks in advance
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Beolab
- Joined on 05-18-2007
- Sweden
- Posts 535
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I read an very interesting article about 100HZ / 24p in the Swedish magazine Hemmabio (= Home Cinema) today! The article described that the 100Hz and 24p technology are just a selling nonsense!! Because 24p and 100Hz dissent work so very well together! If we do a little simple math here.. If you take 100 divided with 24 you get 4.1 pictures. And then take 4 x 24 you get 96 pictures. It docent sync at all with 100Hz as the manufactures say. I could be therefore B&O doesn't put the 100Hz 24p technology in the BV 7 or BV 9 Full HD because it´s not going to approve the picture just more struggle for the video possessing to calculate. = More artefact's! They did mentioned in the article that some High End brands haven't jumped on this 100Hz train yet, because it´s a "dog hidden some where" they didn't say any names but i can assume they meant B&O for example.. I trust the great high speed in the processor of my inbuilt BS3, so i don´t need the 100Hz 24p nonsense talk...!! I can´t see any motion sickness at all !? Why do i need 100Hz 24p then..! Regards
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Gabriel65
- Joined on 04-24-2007
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Beolab it looks fantastic!!! I go for it. See you soon
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Santiago
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Switzerland
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Santiago: Gabriel65: It seems that 100 Hz full HD tecnology, in this panel, give a fantastic images. My dealer told me that only in spring 2008, the new BV7-40 mkIII will improve a 100 Hz tecnology...
I really hope that B&O soon put into action this technology.
Finally this event has been confirmed by my dealer too. BeoSystem3 and BV7-40 will fit the 100Hz technology next year however there isn't a fix date yet. I've already started saving anyway
Regards.
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