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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 04-04-2011 7:44 PM by Jandyt. 137 replies.
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Jandyt
- Joined on 04-01-2007
- Clitheroe, Lancashire, UK
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Re: D I Y foam replacement on S120s. Step by step with photo's....... by Andy T
What I am about to do is a calculated risk! Please don't try this at home!!!
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Jandyt
- Joined on 04-01-2007
- Clitheroe, Lancashire, UK
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Re: D I Y foam replacement on S120s. Step by step with photo's....... by Andy T
Now I'm not sure, but I would imagine that the glue bonding the fabric to the frame is probably water-based. I filled the sink up four inches deep with warm water and added a dash of Angastora bitters Fairy liquid. With nail brush at the ready, I quickly dunked the first one and scrubbed manically, all over, back and front then whipped it out of the water. Shook it vigorously and then got the hair-dryier on it before the glue dissolved. It was only in water for about twelve seconds. Did the same with the other three.
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Dillen
- Joined on 02-14-2007
- Copenhagen / Denmark
- Posts 5,008
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Re: D I Y foam replacement on S120s. Step by step with photo's....... by Andy T
Yes, handwarm water, no more or you will risk shrinking the cloths, combined with the cheapest hairshampoo you can find. Shower the frets with water, Rub the shampoo in gently using your hands and let it work for a couple of minutes, Scrub gently using a nailbrush if you have some stubborn dirt (gently !), Shower the frets using handwarm water 'till all of the shampoo has come off. Leave to airdry, please no hairdryer. The hairdryer will be fine for some types of cloth but not for all and you won't know before it's too late. Especially some of the Beovox Uniphase series (S22-S45) where at least two different types of cloth has been used seems to be prone to shrinkage caused by excess heat, sometimes towards the extreme (impossible to mount back onto the cabinet!). I never saw any speaker cloth glue dissolve in water but of course it shouldn't be left to soak for hours. Martin
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Jandyt
- Joined on 04-01-2007
- Clitheroe, Lancashire, UK
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Re: D I Y foam replacement on S120s. Step by step with photo's....... by Andy T
All that remained was to introduce the frets to the speakers. Unbelievably, they just slotted into place as if they were new frets!| That's it, job done!
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Jandyt
- Joined on 04-01-2007
- Clitheroe, Lancashire, UK
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Re: D I Y foam replacement on S120s. Step by step with photo's....... by Andy T
I made up a couple of speaker cables with two sockets donated by Craig and two plugs I bought from Maplins. This was about 3.30 this afternoon (Mon) and I was just about to plug them into my Beomaster 7000 when my son and his fiance arrived for a brew. Well, I sat them on the settee and connected up the speakers. Most of you will already have guessed which DVD I put on the Kikinoko DVD player! I muted the Avant speakers and set the 7000 to volume 36 with my newly refurbished S120s. I scrolled through to Hotel California and pressed play.............
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9 LEE
- Joined on 02-14-2007
- Moderator - UK
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Re: D I Y foam replacement on S120s. Step by step with photo's....... by Andy T
......then the doorbell rang, and it was the local Vicar come round for a cup of tea and a chat - so you muted it.. And after discussing the local community centre, the knitting circle, and the problem with teenagers hanging around outside the local 7-11 all night he left and you then got back to pressing play.. and...
BeoWorld - Everything Bang & Olufsen
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Jandyt
- Joined on 04-01-2007
- Clitheroe, Lancashire, UK
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Re: D I Y foam replacement on S120s. Step by step with photo's....... by Andy T
.......and, Ohh! The sweetness of the air! A warm glow swept over me as the introductory trumpet solo played. I gradually incresed the volume to 50 and the kids turned and looked at each other. What a nice pure sound. Sharp and clear with no vibrations or dead spots. I had done this! As the trumpet faded away and the guitars started, I got the goose-pimples just like I had that day in Frede's house in Venø, near Struer. It's hard to believe these are passive speakers. I feel really proud of my handywork and glad I took them on. Near the end of the track, where there is a guitar duet, I threw all caution to the wind and cranked up the volume to max, 78. The whole room was vibrating, my sons eyes nearly popped out! The speakers handled it well and supprisingly didn't cut out. Success. Thank you for following this thread. I have two dillemas now. What will I do with these lovely speakers? and what will my next photo-journal be about? Andy T.
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Medogsfat
- Joined on 02-21-2007
- *Moderator* Leeds, Yorkshire
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Re: D I Y foam replacement on S120s. Step by step with photo's....... by Andy T
Excellent thread and an excellent job - very well done Andy. I know exactly how you feel though. The 1st speakers I ever refoamed were S55's and I too was totally gobsmacked that my efforts were equally successful. It has inspired me to carry on refurbishing other speakers in the B&O range with the knowledge that anything is possible with a little patience and planning. Chris.
The use of metaphors should be avoided like the plague. They're like a red rag to a bull to me.
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wirralsimon
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Birkenhead, UK
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Re: D I Y foam replacement on S120s. Step by step with photo's....... by Andy T
Congratulations on a job well done! If you really can't find a home for them I might be able to help........ Simon
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yachadm
- Joined on 06-24-2007
- Jerusalem, Israel
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Re: D I Y foam replacement on S120s. Step by step with photo's....... by Andy T
Hi Andy, A great thread - well done! I love to see other simple people like me, taking the initiative and making the effort to do the job well (and succeeding, to boot), instead of farming out work to local technicians who can't be bothered to care about professionalism any more! I'm starting on my 4 S45's in a few days to replace the Crossover capacitors. I just got the new Auricaps in the mail yesterday. I'll post that project also.
Learn from the mistakes of others - you'll not live long enough to make them all yourself!
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h1npw
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- A cricket ball throw from Trent Bridge
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Re: D I Y foam replacement on S120s. Step by step with photo's....... by Andy T
What an absolutely fantastic superb thread Andy. Your use of plain English and good photos is an example to us all. As a fan of older B&O, threads like these are what makes this site special (and easily worth the £30 for gold membership - never mind the monthly draw !) for me. The thrill of rescuing and refurbishing an item like these speakers to the standard that you've achieved is something that should be experienced by everyone ! A few questions.....not necessarily for just you to answer, Andy What was that Olympus device in the pics ? There must be a similar product available to day to the scratch remover you've got - the results look amazing. Can anyone suggest anything ? Can Dillen give us more information & photos about shims, spiders, where to purchase the best quality foam surrounds etc, so us lesser mortals can be educated in the ways of repairing the trickier models. Cheers Nigel
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wirralsimon
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Birkenhead, UK
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Re: D I Y foam replacement on S120s. Step by step with photo's....... by Andy T
yachadm I await your post with interest as I am about to tackle the same job on my S45-2 s as soon as the capacitors arrive in the post. Simon
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Friedmett
- Joined on 04-28-2007
- Herning, Denmark
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Re: D I Y foam replacement on S120s. Step by step with photo's....... by Andy T
Well done! Great read. My pair of Beovox M150 has no foamrot but the cabinets have a few scratches and some of the fret plugs broken. I learned a few important things here so thank you.
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Jandyt
- Joined on 04-01-2007
- Clitheroe, Lancashire, UK
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Re: D I Y foam replacement on S120s. Step by step with photo's....... by Andy T
Thank you for your kind words Nigel. I came over with a warm glow when I read that, makes all my work worth it. The little black Olympus device is a remote control for the camera. I couldn't have done most of the photo's without it. (I didn't really use my ear lobe!) Andy T.
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wirralsimon
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Birkenhead, UK
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Re: D I Y foam replacement on S120s. Step by step with photo's....... by Andy T
Nigel A thin covering of teak oil covered a mulitude of sins on my S45-2's. I wouldn't say the scratches disappeared, but you only notice them when you look closely. Simon
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classic
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Venø - Struer / Denmark
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Re: D I Y foam replacement on S120s. Step by step with photo's....... by Andy T
jandyt: I made up a couple of speaker cables with two sockets donated by Craig and two plugs I bought from Maplins. This was about 3.30 this afternoon (Mon) and I was just about to plug them into my Beomaster 7000 when my son and his fiance arrived for a brew. Well, I sat them on the settee and connected up the speakers. Most of you will already have guessed which DVD I put on the Kikinoko DVD player! I muted the Avant speakers and set the 7000 to volume 36 with my newly refurbished S120s. I scrolled through to Hotel California and pressed play.............
Hi Andy, Great job - really - - - I am looking for some help in my small business - now I know who to contact I scrolled through to Hotel California and pressed play......... The one and only pease of music for really enjoying the sound of the B&O products, I do hope to find more of that recorded quality. /Frede
Beolab 5000 - "If another amplifier sounds different then it needs repair!"
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Jandyt
- Joined on 04-01-2007
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Re: D I Y foam replacement on S120s. Step by step with photo's....... by Andy T
Cheers Frede. You know, people remember where they were at gret milestones in their life. I know where I was when Neil Armstrong stepped on the moon and where I was when Elvis died or Princess Diana. I also will always remember where I first heard that version of Hotel California, In a small thatched cottage on the island of Venø! Glad you enjoyed the thread mate. Andy T.
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