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  • 12-08-2011 8:37 AM

    • KMA
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    BeoMaster 5 with Beo6, without BeoSound 5

    Greetings fellow members,

    The recent update to the BeoMaster 5 and Beo6 got me thinking:

    Would it be possible to use the BeoMaster 5, connected to a BeoVision 10, and also use the 2-way function of Beo6 to see album covers and control music (in a main and a link room), without adding BeoSound 5 to the combo?

    I'm initially more interested in the user experience of having a two-way remote, than adding the BeoSound 5 user interface to the setup. I like the idea of "having the music" at hand and controlling it with the visual feedback Beo6 could provide, wherever I am around the house.

    So with BeoMaster 5, is Beo6 a viable stand-alone terminal (with TV connected to the BM for configuring the setup and for more complex operations) without BeoSound 5?

    KMA

     

    KMA

    Current setup: BeoVision 10-46 (grey speaker cover, AR, motorized stand) with Apple TV 2 (FireCore), Sony BDP-S780, Mac Mini, BeoLab 11 (silver), Beo5, BeoSound 8 (red speaker covers). Accessories: A8 Earphones, wine bottle coasters.


    B&O product history, in chronological order since 1990, after the onset of the treaded BeoVirus (I tend to upgrade/change my setup "infrequently"): BeoSystem 2500 (with blue speaker covers), BeoLink 5000, BeoSystem 7000 (complete; silver/black), BeoLink 7000, RedLine 60.2, BeoVox Penta, BeoVision MX4000 (black, motorized floor stand), BeoCord VX5000 (black), BeoSystem 4500 (complete), BeoCenter 9500, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 6000, BeoVision Avant (original, 28" AR, VHS, green), BeoCenter 2300, BeoVision 3-32 (grey speaker frame, AR, motorised cabinet), DVD1 (grey), BeoCord V8000 (grey), Beo4, BeoSound Ouverture (w/ floor cabinet stand), BeoVision Avant RF (grey, 32", AR, VHS), BeoSound 9000, BeoCenter AV5 (blue), BeoVision 1 (yellow, motorized floor stand), Beo1, BeoSound Century (yellow), BeoCenter 1 (blue, AR, motorized floor stand), BeoSound 1 (silver, floor stand), BeoVision Avant RF DVD (grey, 32", AR), BeoVision 7-32 MkI (AR, motorized floor stand), BeoLab 3 (black), BeoSound 2, BeoVision 10-40 (grey speaker cover, AR, motorized stand).

  • 12-08-2011 8:46 AM In reply to

    Re: BeoMaster 5 with Beo6, without BeoSound 5

    I think they artificially block this feature if you do not get the BS5. This has to be verified of course. Bit is silly from B&O, as the BS5 does not make sense, but BM5 + 2 way Beo6 would make a lot of sense of course.

    p.

  • 12-08-2011 10:00 AM In reply to

    • KMA
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    Re: BeoMaster 5 with Beo6, without BeoSound 5

    I suspect the same, but it will be interesting to know how it actually is. BeoMaster 5 is sold on its own as a companion to BeoVisions, so it would be wery odd in my opinion if B&O would limit its functionality with Beo6 without the BS5. It would kinda go against the two-way approach B&O is revitalizing. Maybe someone will "jailbreak" the BM5 in this case to allow the functionality :)

    KMA

    Current setup: BeoVision 10-46 (grey speaker cover, AR, motorized stand) with Apple TV 2 (FireCore), Sony BDP-S780, Mac Mini, BeoLab 11 (silver), Beo5, BeoSound 8 (red speaker covers). Accessories: A8 Earphones, wine bottle coasters.


    B&O product history, in chronological order since 1990, after the onset of the treaded BeoVirus (I tend to upgrade/change my setup "infrequently"): BeoSystem 2500 (with blue speaker covers), BeoLink 5000, BeoSystem 7000 (complete; silver/black), BeoLink 7000, RedLine 60.2, BeoVox Penta, BeoVision MX4000 (black, motorized floor stand), BeoCord VX5000 (black), BeoSystem 4500 (complete), BeoCenter 9500, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 6000, BeoVision Avant (original, 28" AR, VHS, green), BeoCenter 2300, BeoVision 3-32 (grey speaker frame, AR, motorised cabinet), DVD1 (grey), BeoCord V8000 (grey), Beo4, BeoSound Ouverture (w/ floor cabinet stand), BeoVision Avant RF (grey, 32", AR, VHS), BeoSound 9000, BeoCenter AV5 (blue), BeoVision 1 (yellow, motorized floor stand), Beo1, BeoSound Century (yellow), BeoCenter 1 (blue, AR, motorized floor stand), BeoSound 1 (silver, floor stand), BeoVision Avant RF DVD (grey, 32", AR), BeoVision 7-32 MkI (AR, motorized floor stand), BeoLab 3 (black), BeoSound 2, BeoVision 10-40 (grey speaker cover, AR, motorized stand).

  • 12-08-2011 10:36 AM In reply to

    Re: BeoMaster 5 with Beo6, without BeoSound 5

    This question I also asked myself, because it would be a great solution for people who don't like the Beosound 5. I don't like the design of BS 5 and with a two-way Beo 6 it makes no sense anymore.

    This solution would mean:

    - Beomaster 5 = Apple TV

    - Beo 6 = IPhone/IPod

    The advantage would be more space for (lossless) music files on harddisk of BM 5 than on IPhone/IPhone.

    Hope it will work!

    /Räuber

  • 12-08-2011 11:43 AM In reply to

    Re: BeoMaster 5 with Beo6, without BeoSound 5

    The Beomaster 5 page on the B and O site speaks of using the Beo 6 to select music but makes no mention of the Beo 4. Perhaps that indicates it will work?

    Should be simple to test. Unplug a Beosound 5 from a Beomaster. I would try it but my Beo 6 wont be arriving until later this month.

    Beovision 7-55 with Beolab 7-4, 9s and 4000s

    Beovision 10-40 with Beolab 1s and 6000s

    Beosound 1, 5, 2000, and 3000

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  • 12-08-2011 12:11 PM In reply to

    • KMA
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    Re: BeoMaster 5 with Beo6, without BeoSound 5

    Raeuber:
    This question I also asked myself, because it would be a great solution for people who don't like the Beosound 5. I don't like the design of BS 5 and with a two-way Beo 6 it makes no sense anymore.

    This solution would mean:

    - Beomaster 5 = Apple TV

    - Beo 6 = IPhone/IPod

    The advantage would be more space for (lossless) music files on harddisk of BM 5 than on IPhone/IPhone.

    Hope it will work!

    /Räuber

     

     

    Yes, excatly.

    I have an Apple TV 2, iPhone and Beo5 at the moment, but I would like to have a holistic "B&O only" approach... which would mean using BV10/BM5 to distribute music to the bedroom, where Beo6 would be the "visual key" to what I'm listening. In my setup, BeoSound 5 in the living room would be a double (or triple) interface to music (TV with BM5 + Beo6 + BS5).

    Let's see. If the BM5 + Beo6 approach works, I will be getting a BM5, Beo6 and new link speakers to the bedroom. Otherwise, I'll stick to what I have now, but it lessens the "hands on" audio user interface and music listening experience in the bedroom.

    BS5 is (a fancy) interface, and Beo6 would be a handy interface. I hope they work together or separately.

     

     

    KMA

    Current setup: BeoVision 10-46 (grey speaker cover, AR, motorized stand) with Apple TV 2 (FireCore), Sony BDP-S780, Mac Mini, BeoLab 11 (silver), Beo5, BeoSound 8 (red speaker covers). Accessories: A8 Earphones, wine bottle coasters.


    B&O product history, in chronological order since 1990, after the onset of the treaded BeoVirus (I tend to upgrade/change my setup "infrequently"): BeoSystem 2500 (with blue speaker covers), BeoLink 5000, BeoSystem 7000 (complete; silver/black), BeoLink 7000, RedLine 60.2, BeoVox Penta, BeoVision MX4000 (black, motorized floor stand), BeoCord VX5000 (black), BeoSystem 4500 (complete), BeoCenter 9500, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 6000, BeoVision Avant (original, 28" AR, VHS, green), BeoCenter 2300, BeoVision 3-32 (grey speaker frame, AR, motorised cabinet), DVD1 (grey), BeoCord V8000 (grey), Beo4, BeoSound Ouverture (w/ floor cabinet stand), BeoVision Avant RF (grey, 32", AR, VHS), BeoSound 9000, BeoCenter AV5 (blue), BeoVision 1 (yellow, motorized floor stand), Beo1, BeoSound Century (yellow), BeoCenter 1 (blue, AR, motorized floor stand), BeoSound 1 (silver, floor stand), BeoVision Avant RF DVD (grey, 32", AR), BeoVision 7-32 MkI (AR, motorized floor stand), BeoLab 3 (black), BeoSound 2, BeoVision 10-40 (grey speaker cover, AR, motorized stand).

  • 12-08-2011 12:25 PM In reply to

    • KMA
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    Re: BeoMaster 5 with Beo6, without BeoSound 5

    Razlaw:
    The Beomaster 5 page on the B and O site speaks of using the Beo 6 to select music but makes no mention of the Beo 4. Perhaps that indicates it will work?

    Should be simple to test. Unplug a Beosound 5 from a Beomaster. I would try it but my Beo 6 wont be arriving until later this month.

    Razlaw,

    Since I am in no hurry, it would be great to have this tested.

    However, considering the setup, it would mean that this would need to tested by setting up BM5 with Beo6 without having the BeoSound 5 connected at all at first. If there's a need for a BS5 during setup, although it could be disconnected later for Beo6 to work without it, this would mean that the combo is more or less BS5 dependant. I cannot image dealers lending out a BS5 just for allowing the customer to set up a system without it.

    In any case, since BM5 can be set up with a BeoVision on its own, I also cannot imagine what setup functionalities the BS5 interface would provide that a display on a TV screen would not. I've looked at the BM5 installation manual, and the Beo6 manual, and there's nothing that says that you need a BS5 to get things working. However, both manuals are either outdated or "superficial", so only hands on experience will tell.

     

    KMA

    Current setup: BeoVision 10-46 (grey speaker cover, AR, motorized stand) with Apple TV 2 (FireCore), Sony BDP-S780, Mac Mini, BeoLab 11 (silver), Beo5, BeoSound 8 (red speaker covers). Accessories: A8 Earphones, wine bottle coasters.


    B&O product history, in chronological order since 1990, after the onset of the treaded BeoVirus (I tend to upgrade/change my setup "infrequently"): BeoSystem 2500 (with blue speaker covers), BeoLink 5000, BeoSystem 7000 (complete; silver/black), BeoLink 7000, RedLine 60.2, BeoVox Penta, BeoVision MX4000 (black, motorized floor stand), BeoCord VX5000 (black), BeoSystem 4500 (complete), BeoCenter 9500, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 6000, BeoVision Avant (original, 28" AR, VHS, green), BeoCenter 2300, BeoVision 3-32 (grey speaker frame, AR, motorised cabinet), DVD1 (grey), BeoCord V8000 (grey), Beo4, BeoSound Ouverture (w/ floor cabinet stand), BeoVision Avant RF (grey, 32", AR, VHS), BeoSound 9000, BeoCenter AV5 (blue), BeoVision 1 (yellow, motorized floor stand), Beo1, BeoSound Century (yellow), BeoCenter 1 (blue, AR, motorized floor stand), BeoSound 1 (silver, floor stand), BeoVision Avant RF DVD (grey, 32", AR), BeoVision 7-32 MkI (AR, motorized floor stand), BeoLab 3 (black), BeoSound 2, BeoVision 10-40 (grey speaker cover, AR, motorized stand).

  • 12-08-2011 2:20 PM In reply to

    Re: BeoMaster 5 with Beo6, without BeoSound 5

    I have tried a setup with BM5 + BV7-40+BC2. No Beosound5 and it works well. Use tv as display so my guess is that it should work with Beo6 2-way without BS5. Just a guess though

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