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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 11-03-2011 5:36 PM by Jakelepeg. 16 replies.
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11-02-2011 9:58 AM
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Jakelepeg
- Joined on 10-03-2011
- Midi-Pyrenees, France
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Beomaster 7000 not recognising turntable
After suffering the problem of not being able to turn off the timer on the BM without an MCP550 or a Beolink 7000 (as if I know what is was programmed with!!). I have now finally re-wired all my Hi-fi and find the turntable (a Pioneer PL-550) will not operate via the phono on the Beomaster.
I guess now someone is going to tell me it will only accept a Beogram unit.
Who wants a cheap BM7000 ???
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Søren Hammer
- Joined on 01-07-2008
- Esbjerg/Denmark
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Re: Beomaster 7000 not recognising turntable
The Beomaster 7000 accepts pretty much any turntable, but the "Phono/play"-command only works with B&O turntable equipped with DataLink. The pioneer should play with RCA-plugs in the underboard (if is the same as the Beomaster 5500). Otherwise, turntables equipped without a DIN-plug can be connected to the Phono-DIN plug with a standard adapter.
Beocenter 9300, Beogam CD50, Beocord 5500, Beomaster 3400, Beomaster 4400, 2 Beogram 4000, Beomaster 8000, 2 beogram 8002, Beovox S-75, Beovox MS150.2, Beovox RL6000, Beovox S-35, Beomaster 6000, 2 Beocord 9000, Beocord 8004, Beocord 5000, Form 1, 2x Beolink 1000, Beo4, MX3500, LS4500. Born 1993.
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Medogsfat
- Joined on 02-21-2007
- *Moderator* Leeds, Yorkshire
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Re: Beomaster 7000 not recognising turntable
The problem is more than likely to be a lack of RIAA phono preamp. The Beomaster 7000 does not have RIAA in the phono as it was fitted to the matching Beogram 7000 turntable instead.
Is there very low sound when you turn the volume up? if so then it will be a RIAA problem - you can fit an external one between your turntable & the Beomaster.
Chris.
The use of metaphors should be avoided like the plague. They're like a red rag to a bull to me.
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Søren Hammer
- Joined on 01-07-2008
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Re: Beomaster 7000 not recognising turntable
Duh, forgot about the missing RIAA of the Beomaster 7000!
Thanks for correcting
Beocenter 9300, Beogam CD50, Beocord 5500, Beomaster 3400, Beomaster 4400, 2 Beogram 4000, Beomaster 8000, 2 beogram 8002, Beovox S-75, Beovox MS150.2, Beovox RL6000, Beovox S-35, Beomaster 6000, 2 Beocord 9000, Beocord 8004, Beocord 5000, Form 1, 2x Beolink 1000, Beo4, MX3500, LS4500. Born 1993.
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Jakelepeg
- Joined on 10-03-2011
- Midi-Pyrenees, France
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Re: Beomaster 7000 not recognising turntable
Just tried once more. Had CD running and placed record on platter and in play. Changed from CD to Phono - nothing. Turned volume up to maximum but the only thing audible was coming from the CD !
I'm obviously not a B & O fan after all this fuss and, if I can't sell it, will condemn it to the dustbin and put it all down to an expensive mistake.
Maybe one of my grandchildern will buy me an Ipod for Christmas.
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chartz
- Joined on 07-20-2009
- Burgundy
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Re: Beomaster 7000 not recognising turntable
Hi,
I can give you the address of my dustbin Jake!
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Søren Hammer
- Joined on 01-07-2008
- Esbjerg/Denmark
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Re: Beomaster 7000 not recognising turntable
Please don't bin a 7000 system, it is the most valuable of the stackable series being the last one. You should get it repaired instead
Beocenter 9300, Beogam CD50, Beocord 5500, Beomaster 3400, Beomaster 4400, 2 Beogram 4000, Beomaster 8000, 2 beogram 8002, Beovox S-75, Beovox MS150.2, Beovox RL6000, Beovox S-35, Beomaster 6000, 2 Beocord 9000, Beocord 8004, Beocord 5000, Form 1, 2x Beolink 1000, Beo4, MX3500, LS4500. Born 1993.
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Medogsfat
- Joined on 02-21-2007
- *Moderator* Leeds, Yorkshire
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Re: Beomaster 7000 not recognising turntable
Hmmm....
Are you using a phono/DIN adapter lead? It must be wired for output on pins 2,3 & 5 (2 = common ground, 3 & 5 are left & right channels) a lot of adapter leads are wired 1,2 & 4.
Chris.
The use of metaphors should be avoided like the plague. They're like a red rag to a bull to me.
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Jakelepeg
- Joined on 10-03-2011
- Midi-Pyrenees, France
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Re: Beomaster 7000 not recognising turntable
The problem is it is not broken. Through ignorance I purchased the unit not knowing it would require special DIN plugs, its own remote (cannot operate without one) and not be compatible with my turntable. After purchasing these items I find that the generic remote will operated most functions but is not able to adjust balance or select any radio stations.
Luckily, I had received a decent amount of money for a 30 year old Pioneer SX1280 receiver (£750) and thought I would splash out on a bit of B&O kit. I should have researched first and been aware of any drawbacks.
As a OAP, I really don't want to throw any more money at it especially if it is never going to be compatible with the turntable.
My best course is to sell the item and replace it with something more suitable.
Afraid your poubelle will have to wait for the moment Jacques. Desole.
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chartz
- Joined on 07-20-2009
- Burgundy
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Re: Beomaster 7000 not recognising turntable
Jakelepeg:
Afraid your poubelle will have to wait for the moment Jacques. Desole.
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Søren Hammer
- Joined on 01-07-2008
- Esbjerg/Denmark
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Re: Beomaster 7000 not recognising turntable
The 7000 can be remote controlled by a Beolink 1000, very easy to obtain cheaply.
The Record player is compatible with the Beomaster. Beoworld Member Peter Pan has made a whole bunch of easy-to-read diagrams of DIN-connections. If you use this diagram: Look at the red and blue leads, these are for sound going in the direction of the DIN-plug. "Højre ind" means Right channel in and "Venstre ind" means Left channel in.
Beocenter 9300, Beogam CD50, Beocord 5500, Beomaster 3400, Beomaster 4400, 2 Beogram 4000, Beomaster 8000, 2 beogram 8002, Beovox S-75, Beovox MS150.2, Beovox RL6000, Beovox S-35, Beomaster 6000, 2 Beocord 9000, Beocord 8004, Beocord 5000, Form 1, 2x Beolink 1000, Beo4, MX3500, LS4500. Born 1993.
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Jakelepeg
- Joined on 10-03-2011
- Midi-Pyrenees, France
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Re: Beomaster 7000 not recognising turntable
My lead is a DIN to 4 RCA plugs and I did wonder about the internal wiring. However, with 4 leads, I did connect one at a time and should have had some result. Unfortunately, there was no sound on any of the leads.
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Søren Hammer
- Joined on 01-07-2008
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Re: Beomaster 7000 not recognising turntable
The Converter could be faulty or not functioning with your system, I have seen a couple problems with the commercial 4-wired ones as they are made for tape recorders. For the price of a male 5-pin DIN plug and RCA cable you can test it. Try the cable on "tape" with a CD-player.
Beocenter 9300, Beogam CD50, Beocord 5500, Beomaster 3400, Beomaster 4400, 2 Beogram 4000, Beomaster 8000, 2 beogram 8002, Beovox S-75, Beovox MS150.2, Beovox RL6000, Beovox S-35, Beomaster 6000, 2 Beocord 9000, Beocord 8004, Beocord 5000, Form 1, 2x Beolink 1000, Beo4, MX3500, LS4500. Born 1993.
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Blackrix
- Joined on 04-20-2009
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Re: Beomaster 7000 not recognising turntable
Jakelepeg:
The problem is it is not broken. Through ignorance I purchased the unit not knowing it would require special DIN plugs, its own remote (cannot operate without one) and not be compatible with my turntable. After purchasing these items I find that the generic remote will operated most functions but is not able to adjust balance or select any radio stations.
Which remote do you use? And the BeoMaster is compatible with every turntable (I guess even a 78RPM player will play) , it just requires an external RIAA pre-amplifier if the optional RIAA pre-amplifier is not mounted in the BeoMaster.
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Jakelepeg
- Joined on 10-03-2011
- Midi-Pyrenees, France
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Re: Beomaster 7000 not recognising turntable
I could not afford a genuine Biolink 1000 remote and settled on a generic copy.
Selection of CD, Tuner, Tape 1 and Phono works well as does the shift element to give Tape 2 and Aux. However, following the functions of the genuine remote it will not get "balance" or allow any control for radio at all.
I can't really afford to buy any more equipment and am sure someone else will make better use of the BM7000.
Watch this space on eBay !!
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Jakelepeg
- Joined on 10-03-2011
- Midi-Pyrenees, France
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Re: Beomaster 7000 not recognising turntable
Excellent, what a good spot. Toggling the SOUND button can adjust Bass and Treble. Thank you so much.
Just now need to know how I can access the Radio, FM and AM, and change frequencies, store stations etc.
Any clues there please?
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