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Latest post 11-11-2011 5:19 PM by georganic. 21 replies.
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10-21-2011 12:58 PM
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georganic
- Joined on 09-24-2011
- Posts 18
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Have recently acquired a beomaster 5000 to go with my beogram 5000. Very low output (I'm listening through headphones) from the turntable (with a proven MMC3).
Perfect sound from a CD player hooked up with RCA connectors through the "line in" jacks, although it plays through all audio channels (aux, phono, tape).
Anybody?
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Medogsfat
- Joined on 02-21-2007
- *Moderator* Leeds, Yorkshire
- Posts 4,045
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This may sound silly but are you 100% sure you are plugging the turntable into the correct socket? There are numerous inputs on the BM5000 & it is easy to get it wrong - it has happened many times before to Beoworld members.
FYI - the phono input socket is the very bottom right hand one when looking directly from behind & it is very tight to plug into.
Chris.
The use of metaphors should be avoided like the plague. They're like a red rag to a bull to me.
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georganic
- Joined on 09-24-2011
- Posts 18
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OK. I've now aquired a correct antenna and speaker wires for my beosystem 5000. Also have MCP 5000. I have the beogram 5000 plugged into the correct DIN receptacle. I haven't hooked up either beocord 5000, because they both smoke from the left rear when I turn them on. I'll check into them later.
Everything seems to be in working order, except there is very low output. Radio stations come in clear, but very low. Same with the turntable (which has a good MMC3), clear as a bell, but low volume. Here's the kicker: When I plug my Denon CD player into "line in" with the RCA jacks, it sounds great. It doesn't respond to the MCP, but I assume that is because of the RCA connections, instead of the 7 pin DIN. Here's the other kicker: The CD player not only works when system is in "aux/cd" mode, but also if you you switch the beomaster 5000 to "phono", "tape 1" and "tape 2", with a slight lag for switching functions.
Any ideas?
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lausvi
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Helsinki - Finland
- Posts 498
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I think I got it.
You mention connecting your CD-player to the RCA line in jacks. The problem is that those connectors are NOT meant to be used that way!
Between the "line in" and "line out" RCA sockets should be two metallic forks connecting them (ie. left line out -> left line in), like this. The "line out" RCAs are the line outs of the pre-amp of the Beomaster and the "line in" RCAs are the line ins of the main amplifier.
Just get a RCA-RCA cable and connect the RCA line inputs to the RCA line outputs and you should have normal operation. To make the connecting easy, get a DIN-RCA adapter and use the CD input! The only RCA-inputs are TAPE2 IN and PHONO.
It might seem complicated at first. I know this from experience!
Bang & Olufsen - The art of controlling sound, picture and light
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georganic
- Joined on 09-24-2011
- Posts 18
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Thanks, lausvi.
I don't have the jumper forks between my "line in" and "line out RCA's. The picture really helps. I've seen jumpers like that on old tube amps, Fishers and Scotts and the like.
Are you saying that with those jumped my output should be normal?
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lausvi
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Helsinki - Finland
- Posts 498
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Without the jumpers there should be no sound at all from the speaker outputs (and from the headphone output as that's just a copy of the speaker output with a limiting resistors). Without the jumpers (line ins not connected) the output amp is not getting anything in, but perhaps in about max. volume the crosstalk is enough for some sound to make it through.
Jumpers are the neatest option but just an ordinary 2xRCA male - 2xRCA male cable will do. Left/right outs to left/right ins and it should work normally.
Bang & Olufsen - The art of controlling sound, picture and light
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georganic
- Joined on 09-24-2011
- Posts 18
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Thank you. RCA's in place and it is sounding great. I'll get a DIN adapter for the CD player, or, better yet a CD50 to complete the system. And, of course some S55's or RL60's to replace the old KLH model 17's I'm playing through now.
Any thoughts on why my beocord 5000's are smoking (I have two, one with a tape stuck in it)? It seems I remember seeing something on this forum or somewhere else saying that (smoking) was a common problem with them.
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elephant
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Melbourne, Australia
- Posts 2,215
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Glad you fixed the jumper problem - I have one of my BM 5000s wired with simple RCA cables, the others have the jumpers as shown in the photo. The purpose of this setup, is to be able to interface an equaliser between the pre-amp and the power-amp should you want one (and no, there was not a 5000 equaliser made by B&O).
georganic: When I plug my Denon CD player into "line in" with the RCA jacks, it sounds great. It doesn't respond to the MCP, but I assume that is because of the RCA connections, instead of the 7 pin DIN.
There are control signals sent on the DIN cable as part of a protocol called DATALINK; I doubt that the Denon will respond to those.
The CD50 of course does respond to these commands, including skimming for track selection (or exclusion); however CD50s do age.
I think you may have to disassemble the Beocords to see what has happened. You will find lots of instructions and photos on how to do that in old forum threads.
First B&O (1976) was a Beogram 1500 ... latest (2011) change has been to couple the BL11 with the BL6Ks *sounds superb*
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georganic
- Joined on 09-24-2011
- Posts 18
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Thanks for the info and advice. I will tear into the beocords ASAP as possible.
I have a user manual (copy) on the way, that may help me navigate the remote.
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Søren Hammer
- Joined on 01-07-2008
- Esbjerg/Denmark
- Posts 554
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When I powered my Beocord 5000 up for the first time the capstan motor would begin to whine and smell burnt. I went for repair and the problem was not that big, can't remember what it was though
Beocenter 9300, Beogam CD50, Beocord 5500, Beomaster 3400, Beomaster 4400, 2 Beogram 4000, Beomaster 8000, 2 beogram 8002, Beovox S-75, Beovox MS150.2, Beovox RL6000, Beovox S-35, Beomaster 6000, 2 Beocord 9000, Beocord 8004, Beocord 5000, Form 1, 2x Beolink 1000, Beo4, MX3500, LS4500. Born 1993.
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Dillen
- Joined on 02-14-2007
- Copenhagen / Denmark
- Posts 5,008
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New belts. The maximum load on the belts are when the tapehead bridge engages and disengages so its typical to see the deck locked midcycle at exactly that point. If the motor was blocked as the belts went, there will also be a minor repair to do in the power supply (light smoke from a fusible resistor at the back of the Beocord). I can supply parts if needed and instructions can be included with the belts to aid removing an eventual stuck tape from the Beocord without damaging neither the deck nor the tape.
One of the best cassettedecks from B&O.
Martin
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georganic
- Joined on 09-24-2011
- Posts 18
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Thanks, Martin. I would like to get a set of belts from you , as well as repairing the power supply. Now it won't open when you push the panel. Any info on disassembly/assembly/etc.. would be greatly appreciated.
I have heard these were great decks, thats why I got two. ($8.00 US on ebay for one, the other was a gift).
Let me know how to get the stuff.
Thanks,
GJS
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georganic
- Joined on 09-24-2011
- Posts 18
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One more thing...Does anyone out there know how to program the start up volume for a Beomaster with MCP. When I turn it on, it comes on @ 4:0. I would like to set it @ 2:8 or thereabouts. I bought a Product Description Beosystem 5000, but although it says you can program it, it doesn't say how to do it.
Thanks for your help.
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tournedos
- Joined on 12-08-2007
- Finland
- Posts 5,808
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georganic: Does anyone out there know how to program the start up volume for a Beomaster with MCP.
STORE, SOUND
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dmacri
- Joined on 05-03-2008
- Posts 63
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It's actually on the drop down door for your MCP5000 - set the volume as desired and press control, store, balance right.
BeoSystem 5000 (BM 5000, BG 5005, BC 5000, CD50), BeoCenter 3500, BeoCenter 2500, BeoLab 2500, BeoVox S-45, S-45.2, RL-140, CX-100, CX-50, C-75, 3 MCL82 link rooms, A8, 4001 relay and ambio
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georganic
- Joined on 09-24-2011
- Posts 18
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You call it a door...I call it a flap...
How bout them belts?
GJS
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