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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 02-03-2012 9:50 AM by chartz. 68 replies.
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Leslie
- Joined on 05-07-2009
- Netherlands
- Posts 2,201
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chartz:
Hello!
I have just discovered that someone here in France does B&O re-tips!
I had missed that one. Maybe because since the demise of the Revue du Son I haven't read any other mags than the excellent Hi-Fi World (I'm a 20 year subscriber!).
I'll have to give them a ring to know whether they also renew the suspension. I'll keep you informed.
HERE
Please do!
B&O item 1, B&O item 2, B&O item 3,...................B&O item 735
Beovirus? What's that?
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chartz
- Joined on 07-20-2009
- Burgundy
- Posts 984
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Hello!
No news from Axel, no mail, nothing. Odd.
Still waiting...
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Leslie
- Joined on 05-07-2009
- Netherlands
- Posts 2,201
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Should already been solved without any interference from others doesn't it?
I've made my choice already.
B&O item 1, B&O item 2, B&O item 3,...................B&O item 735
Beovirus? What's that?
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chartz
- Joined on 07-20-2009
- Burgundy
- Posts 984
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Leslie:
Should already been solved without any interference from others doesn't it?
Indeed, my friend, indeed.
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joeyboygolf
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Ely, Cambridgeshire, UK
- Posts 3,252
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I received my 4 MMC4's back from Axel this morning. He has rebuilt them for free and they look OK now.
I have one playing in a BG6500 right now and it sounds and looks 100% to my ears and eyes.
The diamond would appear to be riding in the groove at the correct angle.
I have just sent him another mixed batch for refurb.
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chartz
- Joined on 07-20-2009
- Burgundy
- Posts 984
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Hello!
I finally got my second MMC4 this morning. I haven't had much time, but it looks better and certainly appears to sound better too, with much more treble and deeper bass. It also rides at a normal height.
It still doesn't look anything like the original though!
I'll post my conclusions (and a photo) when I have completed my listening tests.
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chartz
- Joined on 07-20-2009
- Burgundy
- Posts 984
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Hi!
After many comparisons with CDs I also have on vinyl, I can now report that there is not much between the two. Axel's new MMC4 (he changed his way of doing them it seems) works very well indeed, even though it does look odd—30 years of many different carts speaking!
Now playing: Katie Melua's The House, what a delight...
This is what it looks like (actually the picture is Axel's own, hope he doesn't mind, I couldn't manage better):
PS: I finally got my Beolab Terminal for my Beomaster 8000 and it's a minter (€30).
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Søren Mexico
- Joined on 09-13-2007
- Mexico city
- Posts 1,621
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Here to comparation my SMMC4, 1 year old, used 2 times a week 3-4 LPs
Beosound 3000, BL 4000, BL 8000, BG 2404,BG 5000, BG CD50, Beocord 5000, BM 901, BM 2400, BM 4000, BV S45, BV 3702. There is nothing we cannot do, but a lot of things we don't want to do!!
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Søren Mexico
- Joined on 09-13-2007
- Mexico city
- Posts 1,621
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And here my MMC4 came with my BG 5000 2 years ago, still plays good, and very small diff. to SMMC4, through BM 2400
Beosound 3000, BL 4000, BL 8000, BG 2404,BG 5000, BG CD50, Beocord 5000, BM 901, BM 2400, BM 4000, BV S45, BV 3702. There is nothing we cannot do, but a lot of things we don't want to do!!
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Søren Mexico
- Joined on 09-13-2007
- Mexico city
- Posts 1,621
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In my opinion Axels new look is the most correct, the MMC has the biggest angle and is the original, the SMMC is somewhere between the 2, I have to run both with 1.5 gr. weight on the arm, both correctly 0 adjusted, with 1.2 gr. the sound is missing highs and bass.
Beosound 3000, BL 4000, BL 8000, BG 2404,BG 5000, BG CD50, Beocord 5000, BM 901, BM 2400, BM 4000, BV S45, BV 3702. There is nothing we cannot do, but a lot of things we don't want to do!!
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Rich
- Joined on 07-10-2010
- Orlando, Florida, USA
- Posts 1,089
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chartz:
This is what it looks like (actually the picture is Axel's own, hope he doesn't mind, I couldn't manage better):
Is it just me, or is that cantilever SHORT!
Current primary listening: SMMC20EN -> BG4002 -> BM4000 -> Beovox M70
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chartz
- Joined on 07-20-2009
- Burgundy
- Posts 984
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Hi,
It is just short enough to allow the stylus guard to be safely lowered, contrary to the previous one on which it was impossible because of the extra length of the cantilever.
I would like to try an SMMC though!
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joeyboygolf
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Ely, Cambridgeshire, UK
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I did raise the stylus guard issue with Axel and in his answer he indicated that he would be making the cantilever slightly shorter to accomodate the stylus guard.
I used to supply quite a few SMMC4's in the "pre Axel" days. I quite liked them as they were brighter and a bit more "in your face" than the B&O equivalent.
I think I prefer the more "laid back", "easy listening" sound of the original B&O model for extended listening when compared to the Sound-smith version. This latest "Axel" would appear, at first listening, to be some where in between. I would recommend it.
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chartz
- Joined on 07-20-2009
- Burgundy
- Posts 984
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I get the best sound with my MMC20CL on my Beogram 4000/Beomaster 4400 set-up. It is painfully bright with CD though...
With rock the SMMC20EN is better but less subtle, very CD-like!
As you say Graham, the new Axel lies in between, but the Beomaster 5500 is less bright than the 4400, and the Soundsmith on the BG8000/Beomaster 8000 is the brightest, the BM8000 being also midway between the aforementioned receivers!
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aja097
- Joined on 01-03-2011
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Hi Jacques,
On my side, i bought recently a MMC2 to Axel. When received, i did install it on my 8002 and i'm afraid to say i've been slighly disapointed
comparing its sound to my old MMC3 and even to my newer SMMC4 from
SoundSmith.
Actually, the MMC2 sound was a little bit "boomy" on one side and seems
to lack treble on the other side. Comparing to the old MMC3, it was
obviously really less bright and even a little bit dull. Comparing to
the SMMC4 it was even worst as my SMMC4 is itself slighlty brighter than
my MMC3.
So i went back to Axel and ask what we could do to solve that problem. He told me he was soory for me and did immediatly propose to change for another MMC2.
I did receive the other MMC2 yesterday and tesed it : Perfect !
With 1.2 g tracking force i can read my test LP with a 80µ elongation
with no distortion. This was not the case with the other cell where i
had a lot of distortion on the left channel at 1.4 g for 60µ elongation.
Sound of that MMC2 is comparable to my old mmc3. Just a little bit warmer but not
dull at all.I'm pretty happy now with that 8002/MMC2 association !!!
Jerome
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Orava
- Joined on 10-25-2009
- Finland
- Posts 28
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Who is Axel?
Ok, found him
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chartz
- Joined on 07-20-2009
- Burgundy
- Posts 984
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Orava:
Who is Axel?
Ok, found him
Good!
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