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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 07-12-2011 6:50 PM by bayerische. 51 replies.
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bayerische


- Joined on 12-11-2007
- Helsinki, Finland
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Evan:
Congrats Andreas! You know the drill, pictures asap!
Thanks Evan!
BRW, they arrived today!!!! And they are perfect! Just checked the drivers, and they look brand new almost, so maybe they have been replaced?
Really nice, only problem I have is that I'll have to order custom wall brackets for them from a welder... So that'll add a few hundred I guess, since they are heavier than I expected, and I'm not comfortable putting them on a drywall with 3cm of stone glued to the wall, the screws would be acting like a lever.
But hey, with a little luck I'll have them installed in a few days! 
-Andreas
BLab5, BLab5000, BLab8000, BV10, BS9000, BS3, Beo5, Beo4, BLink1000, BLink5000, BLink7000, A2, A8, Form2
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joeyboygolf



- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Ely, Cambridgeshire, UK
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bayerische:
Evan:
Congrats Andreas! You know the drill, pictures asap!
Thanks Evan!
BRW, they arrived today!!!! And they are perfect! Just checked the drivers, and they look brand new almost, so maybe they have been replaced?
Really nice, only problem I have is that I'll have to order custom wall brackets for them from a welder... So that'll add a few hundred I guess, since they are heavier than I expected, and I'm not comfortable putting them on a drywall with 3cm of stone glued to the wall, the screws would be acting like a lever.
But hey, with a little luck I'll have them installed in a few days! 
I have had 3 pairs of 5000's hanging on drywall for years, no problem.
I use Rawlplug Interset cavity fixings with standard brackets.
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bayerische


- Joined on 12-11-2007
- Helsinki, Finland
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joeyboygolf:
bayerische:
Evan:
Congrats Andreas! You know the drill, pictures asap!
Thanks Evan!
BRW, they arrived today!!!! And they are perfect! Just checked the drivers, and they look brand new almost, so maybe they have been replaced?
Really nice, only problem I have is that I'll have to order custom wall brackets for them from a welder... So that'll add a few hundred I guess, since they are heavier than I expected, and I'm not comfortable putting them on a drywall with 3cm of stone glued to the wall, the screws would be acting like a lever.
But hey, with a little luck I'll have them installed in a few days! 
I have had 3 pairs of 5000's hanging on drywall for years, no problem.
I use Rawlplug Interset cavity fixings with standard brackets.
You think it's going to be alright?
How many screws do you have into the wall?
The problem I have (maybe) is that the drywall has stone glued onto it. The stone is perhaps 3-4 cm thick, so the bolts or screws would be longer than usual, and sort of act like a cantilever...
Another problem I have it that I'll need to drill holes trough the slate stone that is glued onto the wall, risking breaking it.
So what I'm thinking of is to order a large "L" bracket.
-Andreas
BLab5, BLab5000, BLab8000, BV10, BS9000, BS3, Beo5, Beo4, BLink1000, BLink5000, BLink7000, A2, A8, Form2
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beocool


- Joined on 10-17-2007
- the Netherlands
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They will look awesome once they are in place. Hope to see pics soon.
Beoworld's twenty-eighth ninth prize winner and fifty-first second prize winner. Best £30 I've ever spent!
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joeyboygolf



- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Ely, Cambridgeshire, UK
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bayerische:
joeyboygolf:
bayerische:
Evan:
Congrats Andreas! You know the drill, pictures asap!
Thanks Evan!
BRW, they arrived today!!!! And they are perfect! Just checked the drivers, and they look brand new almost, so maybe they have been replaced?
Really nice, only problem I have is that I'll have to order custom wall brackets for them from a welder... So that'll add a few hundred I guess, since they are heavier than I expected, and I'm not comfortable putting them on a drywall with 3cm of stone glued to the wall, the screws would be acting like a lever.
But hey, with a little luck I'll have them installed in a few days! 
I have had 3 pairs of 5000's hanging on drywall for years, no problem.
I use Rawlplug Interset cavity fixings with standard brackets.
You think it's going to be alright?
How many screws do you have into the wall?
The problem I have (maybe) is that the drywall has stone glued onto it. The stone is perhaps 3-4 cm thick, so the bolts or screws would be longer than usual, and sort of act like a cantilever...
Another problem I have it that I'll need to drill holes trough the slate stone that is glued onto the wall, risking breaking it.
So what I'm thinking of is to order a large "L" bracket.
5 screws in each bracket.
They are not really brackets, more accurate to describe as mounting plates which are flat on the wall.
The weight is taken straight down the surface of the wall. There is virtually no outward strain at all.
I am convinced that no major engineering solution is required.
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Evan



- Joined on 12-15-2008
- Ohio | USA
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joeyboygolf:
bayerische:
joeyboygolf:
bayerische:
Evan:
Congrats Andreas! You know the drill, pictures asap!
Thanks Evan!
BRW, they arrived today!!!! And they are perfect! Just checked the drivers, and they look brand new almost, so maybe they have been replaced?
Really nice, only problem I have is that I'll have to order custom wall brackets for them from a welder... So that'll add a few hundred I guess, since they are heavier than I expected, and I'm not comfortable putting them on a drywall with 3cm of stone glued to the wall, the screws would be acting like a lever.
But hey, with a little luck I'll have them installed in a few days! 
I have had 3 pairs of 5000's hanging on drywall for years, no problem.
I use Rawlplug Interset cavity fixings with standard brackets.
You think it's going to be alright?
How many screws do you have into the wall?
The problem I have (maybe) is that the drywall has stone glued onto it. The stone is perhaps 3-4 cm thick, so the bolts or screws would be longer than usual, and sort of act like a cantilever...
Another problem I have it that I'll need to drill holes trough the slate stone that is glued onto the wall, risking breaking it.
So what I'm thinking of is to order a large "L" bracket.
5 screws in each bracket.
They are not really brackets, more accurate to describe as mounting plates which are flat on the wall.
The weight is taken straight down the surface of the wall. There is virtually no outward strain at all.
I am convinced that no major engineering solution is required.
Let's see, thinking back, in their most recent position, my 5000s have been hanging on standard 1/2 inch thick drywall for a year now with only 3 anchors per speaker. They are very sturdy.
Previously, my 5000s were hanging on 1/2 inch drywall with 5 plain drywall screws per speaker - also very sturdy.
You should be fine with any of the above Andreas.
Make sure that your custom bracket holds the speaker against the wall and not away from it, you will get much better performance. Doesn't STB manufacture reproductions?
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bayerische


- Joined on 12-11-2007
- Helsinki, Finland
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-Andreas
BLab5, BLab5000, BLab8000, BV10, BS9000, BS3, Beo5, Beo4, BLink1000, BLink5000, BLink7000, A2, A8, Form2
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Jonathan



- Joined on 05-03-2007
- Melbourne, Australia
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There's a danger that the people sitting at those seats will catch the cloth or dent the stainless steel panels...
Also, conversation might be a little difficult with a massive speaker in your left ear!!
Maybe they need to be a little higher??
My B&O: 2009 Catalogue and Pricelist
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petermc


- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Shepparton, Australia
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They look great but if they are in a public area I wouldn't have them anywhere near where they can be touched.
I have a friend who owns a restaurant and he is constantly amazed how things he thought were 'public proof' get damaged.
If the picture shows where they are to be installed permanently they will be damaged. They will have dents, food stains and holes within days. I can picture someone putting a jacket over them to muffle the sound so they can talk.
People don't intentionally damage things (mostly) but I think these need to mounted well up and out of the way.
Once installed you'll love them; I'm still glad I purchased mine.
Peter
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kallasr



- Joined on 04-19-2007
- Willich, NRW, Germany
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Well, what is even worse: people will fall over the cables...

As I see it, it was just a test of where to put the speakers (they are ON the chairs...).
I am sure, Andreas will hang them WAY higher.
Ralf
My Beo: Beosound 3000, Beolab 4000, Beo 4 DVD, Beolab 5000/Beomaster 5000, Beovox S45.2 with Stands, Beosystem 7000 black with Beolink 7000, Beolink 1000, F1000 (3 cubes), Beovox 5000, Beovox 3000, Attyca 1.
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bayerische


- Joined on 12-11-2007
- Helsinki, Finland
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kallasr:
Well, what is even worse: people will fall over the cables...

As I see it, it was just a test of where to put the speakers (they are ON the chairs...).
I am sure, Andreas will hang them WAY higher.
Ralf
Right on! 
That was just a fast pic, when we tested them last night. They will be hung so that the top of the speaker will be inline with the top of the painting. I don't think they will get damaged, I had my Beolab5's at the very same spot for over a month last year, nothing happened.
The sound reproduction is way over my expectations! They are very good. I'm so glad I bought them.
-Andreas
BLab5, BLab5000, BLab8000, BV10, BS9000, BS3, Beo5, Beo4, BLink1000, BLink5000, BLink7000, A2, A8, Form2
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petermc


- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Shepparton, Australia
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They do sound good don't they?
I was amazed when I first connected ours. My wife likes the sound better than the 8000's.
They look good too.....
Peter
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Evan



- Joined on 12-15-2008
- Ohio | USA
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Those are fantastic examples you have there Andreas! They look great on that backdrop and next to that huge painting.
Glad to hear you are pleased with their sound!

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Steffen



- Joined on 06-24-2008
- Denmark
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bayerische:And they are perfect! Just checked the drivers, and they look brand new almost, so maybe they have been replaced?
I don't think they have been replaced -they are just very good drivers with rubber edges - instead of those terrible foam rings they used in the CX-series and the late S-series (s-45, s-55, s-80 etc.). The drivers in my 5000's still looks like new -and so they do in my 3000's.
Congrats with your lovely speakers 
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bayerische


- Joined on 12-11-2007
- Helsinki, Finland
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OK, guys installed and done!
Man, do they look good?! 

They are absolutely perfect, the pic is not the best possible, as it was dark outside already. The table is mostly for decorative purposes, no-one ever sits at it. Freerk and Nikola knows this.
-Andreas
BLab5, BLab5000, BLab8000, BV10, BS9000, BS3, Beo5, Beo4, BLink1000, BLink5000, BLink7000, A2, A8, Form2
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bayerische


- Joined on 12-11-2007
- Helsinki, Finland
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mediabobny:
Being Mondrian-inspired, they deserved to be spotlighted as much as the painting does (if not more so).
True, but it looks way better in real-life than with the iPhone pics...
-Andreas
BLab5, BLab5000, BLab8000, BV10, BS9000, BS3, Beo5, Beo4, BLink1000, BLink5000, BLink7000, A2, A8, Form2
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beocool


- Joined on 10-17-2007
- the Netherlands
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bayerische:
Freerk and Nikola knows this.
Yes, that's true, I've never seen anyone use it. Those speakers have found a good place! they look awesome! Looks like I will have to go back to Finland to see it with my own eyes. 
Beoworld's twenty-eighth ninth prize winner and fifty-first second prize winner. Best £30 I've ever spent!
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bayerische


- Joined on 12-11-2007
- Helsinki, Finland
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beocool:
bayerische:
Freerk and Nikola knows this.
Yes, that's true, I've never seen anyone use it. Those speakers have found a good place! they look awesome! Looks like I will have to go back to Finland to see it with my own eyes. 
Yes, you have to!
They are indeed awesome looking, and very good sounding too.
I'm happy.
-Andreas
BLab5, BLab5000, BLab8000, BV10, BS9000, BS3, Beo5, Beo4, BLink1000, BLink5000, BLink7000, A2, A8, Form2
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beocool


- Joined on 10-17-2007
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bayerische:
beocool:
bayerische:
Freerk and Nikola knows this.
Yes, that's true, I've never seen anyone use it. Those speakers have found a good place! they look awesome! Looks like I will have to go back to Finland to see it with my own eyes. 
Yes, you have to!
They are indeed awesome looking, and very good sounding too.
I'm happy.
Deal! Haven't seen a pair of those in years.
Beoworld's twenty-eighth ninth prize winner and fifty-first second prize winner. Best £30 I've ever spent!
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Leslie



- Joined on 05-07-2009
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@Andreas, you're interior look fabulous, so simple and clean
One question though, the square part of your speakers seems to be white? Is that original or has it been painted to match your white interior? Thought they only were in brushed alum. or blue?
Btw, when are we invited
B&O item 1, B&O item 2, B&O item 3,...................B&O item 735
Beovirus? What's that?
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Leslie



- Joined on 05-07-2009
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@Andreas, you're interior look fabulous, so simple and clean
One question though, the square part of your speakers seems to be white? Is that original or has it been painted to match your white interior? Thought they only were in brushed alum. or blue?
Btw, when are we invited
B&O item 1, B&O item 2, B&O item 3,...................B&O item 735
Beovirus? What's that?
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lausvi


- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Helsinki - Finland
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Leslie:
One question though, the square part of your speakers seems to be white? (--)
Btw, when are we invited
I was just wondering the same (the color I mean, not if we're being invited or not!) 
Anyway that setup looks awesome, Andreas! I have a pair of BL3000's and have never seen or heard 5000's live. But if my BL3000's are even half as good as the 5000's, I believe those are very good, too.
Bang & Olufsen - The art of controlling sound, picture and light
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