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  • 06-14-2011 6:21 PM

    Impossible Option Programming?

    My dealer is telling me that it is impossible to do the option programming in such a way as to solve the problem I am having. Thought I would post it as a sort of a puzzle and see if anybody here has a solution.

    Room 1  has a BV7-55 and connected speakers.

    Room 2 has a BV10-40 and connected speakers, along with a Beosound 5 and a Beosound 3000.

    Here is the problem. If I set the BV10 as the Master, then the timer function in the BV7 is not available. If I set the BV7 as the Master, then the timer function is available and works perfectly, but......if I turn the Beosound 5 on by using the Beosound 5 itself instead of a remote, that turns the speakers on that are connected to the BV7 in the other room, instead of turning on the speakers connected to the BV10 in the same room as the Beosound 5.

    Any option programming solution that will allow me to use the timer on the BV7 and have the Beosound 5 activate the speakers in the room it is in?

    Thanks

    Beovision 7-55 with Beolab 7-4, 9s and 4000s

    Beovision 10-40 with Beolab 1s and 6000s

    Beosound 1, 5, 2000, and 3000

    Beotime, Beotalk, Beocoms

  • 06-14-2011 9:31 PM In reply to

    • Alex
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    Re: Impossible Option Programming?

    Razlaw:

    My dealer is telling me that it is impossible to do the option programming in such a way as to solve the problem I am having. Thought I would post it as a sort of a puzzle and see if anybody here has a solution.

    Room 1  has a BV7-55 and connected speakers.

    Room 2 has a BV10-40 and connected speakers, along with a Beosound 5 and a Beosound 3000.

    Here is the problem. If I set the BV10 as the Master, then the timer function in the BV7 is not available. If I set the BV7 as the Master, then the timer function is available and works perfectly, but......if I turn the Beosound 5 on by using the Beosound 5 itself instead of a remote, that turns the speakers on that are connected to the BV7 in the other room, instead of turning on the speakers connected to the BV10 in the same room as the Beosound 5.

    Any option programming solution that will allow me to use the timer on the BV7 and have the Beosound 5 activate the speakers in the room it is in?

    Thanks

     

    I think I have a creative way of getting this working.  Do you have an ML Gateway and RadioRa2 by any chance?

    Store Manager Bang & Olufsen Broadway 927 Broadway New York, NY 10010
  • 06-14-2011 9:48 PM In reply to

    Re: Impossible Option Programming?

    No, I have neither. But, you have me intrigued. How would those two items be used to make it work?

    Beovision 7-55 with Beolab 7-4, 9s and 4000s

    Beovision 10-40 with Beolab 1s and 6000s

    Beosound 1, 5, 2000, and 3000

    Beotime, Beotalk, Beocoms

  • 06-15-2011 4:16 AM In reply to

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    Re: Impossible Option Programming?

    Razlaw:

    Any option programming solution that will allow me to use the timer on the BV7 and have the Beosound 5 activate the speakers in the room it is in?

     

    NO, but a BEOTIME "solves" the problem of the missing BV10 timer.

  • 06-15-2011 8:04 AM In reply to

    Re: Impossible Option Programming?

    Wouldn't it take two Beotimes? one for the 10 and one for the 7 in the other room?

    Beovision 7-55 with Beolab 7-4, 9s and 4000s

    Beovision 10-40 with Beolab 1s and 6000s

    Beosound 1, 5, 2000, and 3000

    Beotime, Beotalk, Beocoms

  • 06-15-2011 6:22 PM In reply to

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    Re: Impossible Option Programming?

    Razlaw:

    Wouldn't it take two Beotimes? one for the 10 and one for the 7 in the other room?

     

    Maybe the the Play Timer / Wake Up Timer of your BV7 fulfills your requirements
    - otherwise you'll need a second BeoTime ...

  • 06-16-2011 12:17 AM In reply to

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    Re: Impossible Option Programming?

    Razlaw:

    No, I have neither. But, you have me intrigued. How would those two items be used to make it work?

    You could program a custom MLGW driver to recognize the Timer commands in the Ra2 program and trigger ML commands to both of your video systems.  ie. whatever timer command you wanted to issue would be handled by the Lutron and MLGW tandem (say for instance an "All Off" ML Command and an "All Lights Off" Ra2 command at midnight if you're anything like me and you fall asleep watching TV on an almost nightly basis) in place of using the B&O timers.  The same can be done for the opposite ... if you want to wake up to N.Radio in the morning just set a second timer on the Ra2 system and add a little more code to the MLGW custom driver.

    It's probably a lot easier than I just made it sound! 

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  • 08-16-2011 9:25 AM In reply to

    Re: Impossible Option Programming?

    I have found an "almost" solution. Anybody have any thoughts as to either anything, any problem I am missing, or any solution to the minor issue I still seem to have?

    The option problem I was having is in my first post in this thread. I have now set the BV10 to option 2, and the BV7 to option 1.

    This has allowed me to turn on the Beosound 5 using the Beosound 5 controls, not a remote, and the speakers connected to the BV10 in the same room as the Beosound 5 turn on just as they should. Additionally, the timer function is still visible and available in the BV7-55. Not only does it work, but an added unexpected benefit appeared. The timer on the BV7 will now turn the BV10 on, something that I thought was not possible in the USA with a system connected only by Masterlink. It does, however, also activate the motorized stand on the BV10 which I know timers are not suppose to, but that is just another added benefit.

    The only issue I have found so far is difficulty accessing audio sources in the room with the BV7. Pressing N. Music does nothing. However, I added A N Music to the Beo 4 and that works perfectly, with one exception. If I am watching TV, and press A N Music, N Music starts, but the TV picture remains. Any thoughts on how to activate  N Music in the option 1 programmed BV7 when the TV is on and have the TV turn off? I could use picture mute? Could my Beo 5 be programmed to activate A N Music and Picture Mute with the press of one button? 

    Thanks!

    Beovision 7-55 with Beolab 7-4, 9s and 4000s

    Beovision 10-40 with Beolab 1s and 6000s

    Beosound 1, 5, 2000, and 3000

    Beotime, Beotalk, Beocoms

  • 08-16-2011 10:13 AM In reply to

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    Re: Impossible Option Programming?

    Did you try V.OPT 4 for the BV7? As far as I know, it`s a master option setting. You just have to press LINK - source for video- and audio sources.

    And for the BV10 V.OPT 2, so this should start your BV10 using BS5 controls.

    I never checked that. But maybe worth a try...?

    Stefan

  • 08-16-2011 10:17 AM In reply to

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    Re: Impossible Option Programming?

    I use the MLGW/RA2 version. . .IT works perfectly. . 

    I use RA2 and Beolink controls together to operate all kinds of things.

    I have certain B&O products react to certain RA2 commands and visa versa. . 

    It really is cool

    The only problem is that you will be making about a 10k investment with RA2 and MLGW (if you do the whole house, which is the only way to go)

    I'm ready for something new that I actually want to buy!

  • 08-16-2011 1:47 PM In reply to

    Re: Impossible Option Programming?

    I will try Option 4 when I get home.

    Beovision 7-55 with Beolab 7-4, 9s and 4000s

    Beovision 10-40 with Beolab 1s and 6000s

    Beosound 1, 5, 2000, and 3000

    Beotime, Beotalk, Beocoms

  • 08-16-2011 2:41 PM In reply to

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    Re: Impossible Option Programming?

    Try setting the BeoSound 5 as no audiomaster in the settings meny. 

  • 08-16-2011 8:25 PM In reply to

    Re: Impossible Option Programming?

    I have everything working almost perfectly now.  I have now set the BV7 to option 1, and the BV10 to option 2.


    This has caused the timer to remain active in the 7. And, even better, not only does the timer in the 7 turn the 7 on, it is also turning the 10 on. I then programmed the receiver connected to the 10 to turn on and select the channel at the same time. Thus, I can now have the BV7 timer turn both TVs on to the desired channel. The BV10 even turns to the preset stand position which I know does not typically happen with timer commands. I had been told the timer in the 7 could not be used to activate the 10, here in the USA, where the TVs are connected only by Masterlink.

    As for control of the Beosound 5, in the room where it is located, with the 10, turning the wheels on it activates it and the speakers in that room. Also, using a remote all seems to work fine.

    In the room with the BV7, the Beo 4 works to turn on and control N. Music with only a couple minor problems. To activate N. Music in that room I had to add A-N Music to the Beo 4. Using that command the N. Music starts perfectly and I then have full control. One other slight problem is that if I have the TV on, and then use the A-N Music button the N Music starts but the picture remains on the TV. That is a minor problem as I rarely switch from TV to N Music. I added the Picture Mute button but it disappears when I activate N Music and I can not get it to reappear.

    Beovision 7-55 with Beolab 7-4, 9s and 4000s

    Beovision 10-40 with Beolab 1s and 6000s

    Beosound 1, 5, 2000, and 3000

    Beotime, Beotalk, Beocoms

  • 08-16-2011 8:28 PM In reply to

    Re: Impossible Option Programming?

    Razlaw:
    I will try Option 4 when I get home.

    Option 4 worked but I did not like having to use Link for TV. Maybe if I get my Beo 5 reprogrammed it will be the way to go. 

    Beovision 7-55 with Beolab 7-4, 9s and 4000s

    Beovision 10-40 with Beolab 1s and 6000s

    Beosound 1, 5, 2000, and 3000

    Beotime, Beotalk, Beocoms

  • 08-16-2011 8:29 PM In reply to

    Re: Impossible Option Programming?

    Steffen:

    Try setting the BeoSound 5 as no audiomaster in the settings meny. 

    But if I do that, wont I lose the ability to control the Beosound 5 with an iPad or iPhone?

     

    Beovision 7-55 with Beolab 7-4, 9s and 4000s

    Beovision 10-40 with Beolab 1s and 6000s

    Beosound 1, 5, 2000, and 3000

    Beotime, Beotalk, Beocoms

  • 08-18-2011 5:28 AM In reply to

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    Re: Impossible Option Programming?

    Yes, right. For using BS5 with ipad/iphone you must set it up to Audiomaster and music server on. This makes your setup more strange, as you have two videomasters (BV7 and BV10) in one Masterlink setup in addition to two audiomasters - BS3000 and BS5....(?)

    Stefan

  • 08-18-2011 7:53 AM In reply to

    Re: Impossible Option Programming?

    Yes, it is strange, but it works. Also, i currently have disconnected the Beosound 3000 from the system.

    Beovision 7-55 with Beolab 7-4, 9s and 4000s

    Beovision 10-40 with Beolab 1s and 6000s

    Beosound 1, 5, 2000, and 3000

    Beotime, Beotalk, Beocoms

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