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  • 02-11-2011 2:15 AM

    Speakers?

    I will soon be a proud owner of a Beomaster 3000 and am looking for recommendations for speakers.  Relatively small would be nice... prefer vintage.  And of course they must look cool to complement the 3000.  I've recently seen a pair of B & O S35's... And I've seen a number of S45's for sale.  Would either of these be a good fit for the 3000?  What do you think?  Other suggestions?

    Thanks!

  • 02-11-2011 2:52 AM In reply to

    • kallasr
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    Re: Speakers?

    I suggest Beovox S45.2 look nice on stands, too.

    Using mine with Beomaster 3000 and Beolab 5000/Beomaster 5000.

    Love the sound!

    Ralf

    My Beo: Beosound 3000, Beolab 4000, Beo 4 DVD,  Beolab 5000/Beomaster 5000, Beovox S45.2 with Stands, Beosystem 7000 black with Beolink 7000, Beolink 1000, F1000 (3 cubes), Beovox 5000, Beovox 3000, Attyca 1.

  • 02-11-2011 4:21 AM In reply to

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    I agree with the above. S45-2 are a great all round speaker. It would be nice if you could find some trumpet stands to go with them as well although the are quite rare. 

    I have a pair of Beovox 3802 speakers which are also great sounding!

  • 02-11-2011 5:15 AM In reply to

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    Speakers are very personal choices. You don't say what sort of music you like and what sort of vulume you use. S45.2 are great little speakers but are quite bass light. If you listen to classical or jazz they are great. Rock needs more bass. If you listen to the latter, consider S75s or M70s. You have to rely on recommendations as you cannot go and listen for yourself - which would be the best idea!! Smile

  • 02-11-2011 5:31 AM In reply to

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    I have a pair of M150 monitors on stands which need a new home but I fear they would be too power hungry for a BM3000!

  • 02-11-2011 12:03 PM In reply to

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    Re: Speakers?

    Llewelyn:

    I have a pair of M150 monitors on stands which need a new home

    Yes please!

     

    Back to the point-

    The S45-2s are an incredible speaker. I've never really thought of them as bass light, but then again mine are mounted to a wall, and in a 165 sq ft room!

    Evan

     

  • 02-11-2011 1:10 PM In reply to

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    For rock, the S-75's, indeed. The S-45's also sound great in a slightly different way. Both could benefit from a capacitor change in the crossovers, it'll open up the sound and make them be more responsive in frequency response Wink

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  • 02-12-2011 10:50 AM In reply to

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    Thanks for your input... The S45's seem to be very popular... Nice setup!

  • 02-12-2011 10:52 AM In reply to

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    Well I think my hard rock days are over... But I still have many classic rock n roll albums... I seem to be leaning toward the S45's.  Thanks.

  • 02-12-2011 1:13 PM In reply to

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    Re: Speakers?

    There are two S45 speaker versions - the S45 & S45-2.

    You really want to be looking for the 45-2's as these have rubber surrounds on the bass drivers. The S45's have foam surrounds which will have disintegrated & will need refoaming (unless they have already been done).

    I don't know how good your DIY skills are but if you aren't off put by attempting to refoam the drivers yourself (there are some threads on this in the workbench section) then you'll be able to pick up some S45's very cheaply.

     

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  • 02-12-2011 2:12 PM In reply to

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    I would endorse fully the recommendation for S45.2s as excellent speakers, particularly if used with their pedestal stands. ( I love mine). 

    If you are in the UK, an alternative to consider, although slightly less easy to find, are the Beovox 3800.  These were a UK only model designed to maximise the benefits of arcane tax regulations over bass driver size.  They were often recommended by dealers to go with the BM 3000 and its Beocenter derivative, the 3500, and if you like pop and rock music may be more suitable, particulary if you are going to use them in  a reasonable size room - say more 25 sq mtrs.  The S45.2s are accurate but are seen by some as 'bass light'.

    Cleve

  • 02-12-2011 3:44 PM In reply to

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    Medogsfat:

    There are two S45 speaker versions - the S45 & S45-2.

    You really want to be looking for the 45-2's as these have rubber surrounds on the bass drivers. The S45's have foam surrounds which will have disintegrated & will need refoaming (unless they have already been done).

    I don't know how good your DIY skills are but if you aren't off put by attempting to refoam the drivers yourself (there are some threads on this in the workbench section) then you'll be able to pick up some S45's very cheaply.

     

    Chris.

     

     

    There were actually two S45's, one a predecessor to the S45-2 and very similar to it, the other the later S45's with the foam drivers (And split frets) . the later S45's are a different speaker and are not as good as either the original S45.2 or S45 which both had rubber surrounds. I would recommend waiting for one of the earlier versions rather than refoaming the later ones.Confusingly the S45-2s were still labelled as S45 on the front,so most of the S45s you see on eBay etc are actually S45.2's!

     

    I have two pairs of S45.2s and I am very happy with them. I find they have plenty of bass for my needs. They definitely benefitied from Martin (Dillens) capactitor kits.

     

    Simon

     

  • 02-13-2011 12:35 AM In reply to

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    Re: Speakers?

    wirralsimon:

     Confusingly the S45-2s were still labelled as S45 on the front,so most of the S45s you see on eBay etc are actually S45.2's!

    Simon 

    Oddly, my S45-2s have S35 frets!

    Evan

     

  • 02-13-2011 1:01 AM In reply to

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    Interested in parting with one set?  Or know of anyone else that may be?

     

    Thanks.

  • 02-13-2011 1:02 AM In reply to

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    Oops... I see you're from the UK... Shipping may be way too expensive  :-(

  • 02-15-2011 9:01 AM In reply to

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    Best bang for the buck B&o speaker ever!

    wirralsimon:
    There were actually two S45's, one a predecessor to the S45-2 and very similar to it, the other the later S45's with the foam drivers (And split frets)

    This is a very good point to make as I am always concerned that readers here may buy the later S45's and think that we are all crazy!

    Simply: The early S45 and/or S45-2 (SINGLE FRET) are the ones to buy... NOT the later (DOUBLE FRET).

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  • 02-15-2011 10:10 AM In reply to

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    I have later one (double fret) s45, and in my opinion they sound great.

    Very soft and in some cases not that accurate, most of the time lack of bass, but that's the charm about them ... somehow they are lovely, very very pleasant to listen, relaxing and non intrusive. I really like them. They are powerful as well.

    Highly recommend them Smile

     

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  • 02-15-2011 10:19 AM In reply to

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    nmartin771:
    I have later one (double fret) s45, and in my opinion they sound great.

    Certainly -ears are ears and there are few B&o speakers that get snubbed short of the X series.

    But, if you have an opportunity to listen to the early models -you will see hear what we are all raving about!

    There really is a dramatic difference. The single frets are magical -especially when considering availability and price!

     

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