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  • 12-26-2010 1:25 PM

    Is the Beosystem 7000 still a good buy?

    I am looking at buying a Beosystem. I want either a 6500 or 7000.

    They are getting pretty old now. I am worried that they may be on their last legs these days but then we are talking about B&O so all bets are off.

    I keep thinking about getting one but then I think about the beosound 9000 and get all confused. Then when I see a complete beosystem I melt inside a little. Then I see a 9000 mounted on the wall and the cycle begins again. 

    I am guessing that they both pretty much sound the same (?). Has anyone else been in this dilemma? (old/new dilemma that is)

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  • 12-26-2010 1:44 PM In reply to

    Re: Is the Beosystem 7000 still a good buy?

    Not had your dilemma, but if you're also considering the Beosound 9000 then have you asked yourself whether you need a cassette deck and turntable too???

    President, Beomaster 8000 Appreciation Society

  • 12-26-2010 2:21 PM In reply to

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    Re: Is the Beosystem 7000 still a good buy?

    All time classic. I wouldn't hesitate for a Beosystem 7000. Beosound 9000 is available anywhere anytime but the 7000 quite rare to find in mint condition and complete setup.

    Best regards

    Spiros

  • 12-26-2010 3:15 PM In reply to

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    Re: Is the Beosystem 7000 still a good buy?

    If you like the 6500/7000 system, I wouldn't hesitate for minute to go for one!  It's one of my favorite B&O systems of all time.  If you do get one, one suggestion that may help, is to take all of the pieces to a good service technician (unless you want to do it yourself), and have any "normal" maintenance performed.  For example, CD laser cleaned, tape heads cleaned, any belts replaced with new ones, turntable suspension adjusted, new cartridge (or rebuilt), etc.  I bought a BeoSystem 5500 back in 1997, and I did this with my 5500 when I first got it, and I'm still enjoying it today.  Listening to it now actually!  

    While I still listen to vinyl, tapes, and CDs, along with iTunes, one advantage of the older separate systems, is that as you stop listening to a particular source, you can disconnect it, and just not use it anymore.  For example, if you primarily listen to the radio and iTunes (or similar) today, you can just use a BeoMaster and hook up a computer (or Airport Express, etc.) to it.  If you have a BeoSound 9000 in this scenario, you essentially just have a giant sized radio/pre-amp!

    Whichever one you go for, the 6500/7000 or 9000, enjoy, as they are both great systems! Smile

  • 12-26-2010 3:48 PM In reply to

    Re: Is the Beosystem 7000 still a good buy?

    My experience with a BS9000 this fall versus a Beosystem 6500 came to that my fear of just cd's only really were not going to be the primary way so the BS9000 is now sold but again its another of many great B&O products aviable.

    I do listen to cassete tapes, DAT, vinyl and cd's but I don't mind only using 1 cd at the time.

     Again the reliability is up to every single unit but they mostly still last better since 6500/7000 it was out '91 to'95 something. I did have some trouble. At first I got the 6500 with BM,BC and CD6500 + a Beo4 MKII. Sadly the outputs in the BM were not good and after a year or so it died. Dillen serviced as many faults as he could find which was quite a few including the fault of using to much voltage.

    I saw a cheap BC6500 (being used to running a BC5500 as a second)and for a bit more I could get a non working BM6500 so I got Dillen to service both with the BM6500 with bad outputs etc.

    It took a week for the first BM6500 to get kind of non functioning. It got back to Dillen and I'm still waiting for the diagnose on it. Something smelled burned. Some former owner had done some repairs and it was not very good.

    The second BM6500 replaced number 1 almost immediately and even when writing this it's working great. The CPU had gone and other things.

    The second BC6500 works great and I can see that BC6500 nr.1 needs to be slightly serviced here and there.

    The BS9000 MKIII worked great. An early 2001 version. No problems at all.

    I love the 6500 for the many options it has. Active or passive speakers? Link MCL or ML? Beolink remotes? MCP, 1000, Beo4 etc.

    It looks good and the space is better than the '80s Beosystem 6000/8000

    The only down side is the Beogram 6500/7000 is rare and can cost alot.

    You can get 6500 in black/chrome or white. You can get 7000 in black/chrome, white or black.

    I second that whicever you go for you get a great system. If you are more into cd's the Beosound 9000 is the best for the job.

     

     

  • 12-26-2010 4:57 PM In reply to

    Re: Is the Beosystem 7000 still a good buy?

    I love the Beosystem 6500/7000 (and the 5500 too).

    I am also always tempted to get a BS9000 (probably will at some time), but would never replace the 6500/7000 with one - if I got a BS9000 it would be in addition.

    If your reasonably careful & sensible about buying 6500/7000 units you will be fine - I've never had any problem with any unit I've had, and i've had probably over twelve 5500/6500/7000 component units - with no issues at all.

    If you can do without a turntable (like me), then you can hook 2 CD units up using the BM's Phono socket. So although I would like the 6-CD of the BS9000, I find I can cope just fine with a 2 cd capacity. (I have one CD7000 and one CD6500).

    I find it's a fantastic system, and I've also got it hooked up to an audio/video integrated together with a Beovision 5 with Penta Labs and RedLine 60.2 via the AUX sockets. DTV, DVD, TV and all audio sources are just great! Thoroughly recommended system!

    If I were you - I'd definately get a 6500 or 7000, and not worry about it. Below I will try to post a picture of how my current set-up looks....

    Michael

    BV5, BV Avant, MX4000, MX1500

    BS 7000, BS 5500

    Penta III, Penta II, BL 4000, RL 60.2,  RL 35, CX-100 Alu

    BL 7000, MCP6500, MCP5500,  BL 5000,  Beo4 (x2), BL 1000 (x2)

  • 12-26-2010 4:59 PM In reply to

    Re: Is the Beosystem 7000 still a good buy?

    Apologies, my pictures are of ludicrous proportions - I dont know how to resize them! Confused

    Michael

    BV5, BV Avant, MX4000, MX1500

    BS 7000, BS 5500

    Penta III, Penta II, BL 4000, RL 60.2,  RL 35, CX-100 Alu

    BL 7000, MCP6500, MCP5500,  BL 5000,  Beo4 (x2), BL 1000 (x2)

  • 12-26-2010 5:10 PM In reply to

    Re: Is the Beosystem 7000 still a good buy?

    BeoSystem 6500 and BeoSystem 6500 are almost the same and both very reliable, except the BeoCord. The early BeoCord 6500 had the same tape-mechanism as the BeoCord 5500 and the BeoCenter 9000. The later BeoCord 6500 and the BeoCord 7000 had the later mechanism which is not as reliable as the first version. You can see the difference from the outside by taking a look at the pinch-rollers. In the old reliable mechanism they are in metal brackets, in the later mechanism they are in plastic brackets. Maybe someone has information from which serialnumber Tape Deck Version II was introduced in BeoCord 6500?

  • 12-26-2010 5:19 PM In reply to

    Re: Is the Beosystem 7000 still a good buy?

    Bentleyman:

    Apologies, my pictures are of ludicrous proportions - I dont know how to resize them! Confused

     

    Can anyone tell me how to resize pictures posted in here, so that they are the correct size for the page..?

    Thanks.

     

    Michael

    BV5, BV Avant, MX4000, MX1500

    BS 7000, BS 5500

    Penta III, Penta II, BL 4000, RL 60.2,  RL 35, CX-100 Alu

    BL 7000, MCP6500, MCP5500,  BL 5000,  Beo4 (x2), BL 1000 (x2)

  • 12-26-2010 5:45 PM In reply to

    Re: Is the Beosystem 7000 still a good buy?

    Bentleyman:

    Can anyone tell me how to resize pictures posted in here, so that they are the correct size for the page..?

    I think drag and resize the picture wil do the trick, or not?

    I've got two complete systems for sale 6500/7000 (black/silver) and that includes the record player with MMC2 and MCP, in super mint condition. Makes it more complete with the Beolink 7000 RDS including the floorstandCool which I also have.

    Also a white 6500 and black 7000 but (unfortanetely) without the record player!   

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  • 12-26-2010 5:53 PM In reply to

    Re: Is the Beosystem 7000 still a good buy?

    But the weight in total (for shipment) is incredible!

    B&O item 1, B&O item 2, B&O item 3,...................B&O item 735

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  • 12-26-2010 10:59 PM In reply to

    Re: Is the Beosystem 7000 still a good buy?

    I will be shipping them from the UK so it is going to cost me an arm and a leg. I may wait as I may be moving to Germany.

    I would only be getting a beomaster and beogram. I will keep an eye out for them in the usual places in the new year.

    Beosystem 7000/6500- Beolab 4000 - Beosound 1 - A8 - Earset 3 - Beo4

  • 12-27-2010 1:22 AM In reply to

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    Re: Is the Beosystem 7000 still a good buy?

    And I can confirm that the packaging made by Leslie can really travel to the moon!!!!

    A tank could go over the package without any problems!!!!!

    It is incredible!

    Best regards

    Spiros

  • 12-27-2010 1:25 AM In reply to

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    Re: Is the Beosystem 7000 still a good buy?

    May I also add that I usually use transportation companies instead of couriers (especially for large packages) and it reduces the cost dramatically. This for me is an excellent alternative.

    Best regards

    Spiros

  • 12-27-2010 3:02 AM In reply to

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    Re: Is the Beosystem 7000 still a good buy?

    Bought a Beomaster/cord/gram CD7000 myself last year; the cord isn't working but that's no problem because I don't use tape, it came for free with the rest.

    The most important is the very good CD-player that the CD7000 is. Never heard a better one. Very clean, very detailed, beautiful bass. The master 7000 is a good amp I think.

  • 12-27-2010 3:57 AM In reply to

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    I have two complete Beosystems 7000. I love them and have decided to keep them both!

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  • 12-27-2010 5:10 AM In reply to

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    Re: Is the Beosystem 7000 still a good buy?

    jc:

    The most important is the very good CD-player that the CD7000 is. Never heard a better one. Very clean, very detailed, beautiful bass.

    Absolutely; the Beogram CD7000/6500/5500 is an absolutely fantastic sounding deck. Extremely tight low-end, very detailed transparent top-end, a huge, but pin-point accurate stereo image, and overall very musical and smooth without a lof of the brittleness I associate with many (even quite 'high-end') digital sources. I often think it actually sounds really quite analog!

    jc:
    The master 7000 is a good amp I think.

    I'd agree with this - it doesn't seem to be B&O's best amp, but still very good nonetheless. As long as you give it a 6-8Ω load, controlled low-end with plenty of power. I always find the top-end just needs a bit more sizzle and drive. Doesn't sound as good as my Beomaster 4400, but sounds better than most budget-ish HiFi amps I listen to. I've heard you can modify the BeoMaster 6500/7000 to improve it's sonics, although I haven't tried it myself...

    I'm currently using mine to run a pair of active monitor speakers, with a Rega Planar 3 + CD7000 as sources, and it sounds absolutely fantastic! Still looks the part, sounds great, and has good link capability once you add in the converter...

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  • 12-27-2010 5:45 AM In reply to

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    I'm thinking about just buying a beosound 4. The cost of the units plus shipping is about the same as a new beosound 4.

    It's such a hard decision as I am going to be using it for about 10 years or so. I'll sleep on it.

    Beosystem 7000/6500- Beolab 4000 - Beosound 1 - A8 - Earset 3 - Beo4

  • 12-27-2010 6:29 AM In reply to

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    The Beosystem 7000 is the ultimate remote control system made by B&O (for the moment!) The Beosystem 8000 (I know it is called the Beolab 8000 but that is confusing!) is probably the best sounding. The flexibility of the 7000 has never been better and the multi-room control with the Beolink 7000 is simply the best. I swaqpped mine for a BC2 and in some ways I wish I hadn't. Sound quality of the 7000 was better, the amplifier drove passive speakers very well unlike the ML/MCL converter and the ability to record radio programmes is something I miss. Also beautifully made, though not as good as the 5000 that started this line. Remember that the 7000 is only half the system without the Beolink 7000 though.

  • 12-27-2010 6:58 AM In reply to

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    Re: Is the Beosystem 7000 still a good buy?

    Soundquality better than BC2? Do you mean to say that the CD player of the BC2 sounds sounds worse than CD7000?

  • 12-27-2010 10:01 AM In reply to

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    It is difficult to say which bit is the weak link, but playing CDs through my BS7000 sounded better than my BC2.

  • 12-27-2010 11:35 AM In reply to

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    Doctor:

    The Beosystem 7000 is the ultimate remote control system made by B&O (for the moment!) The Beosystem 8000 (I know it is called the Beolab 8000 but that is confusing!) is probably the best sounding. The flexibility of the 7000 has never been better and the multi-room control with the Beolink 7000 is simply the best. I swaqpped mine for a BC2 and in some ways I wish I hadn't. Sound quality of the 7000 was better, the amplifier drove passive speakers very well unlike the ML/MCL converter and the ability to record radio programmes is something I miss. Also beautifully made, though not as good as the 5000 that started this line. Remember that the 7000 is only half the system without the Beolink 7000 though.

    Great description between the Beosystem 8000 and Beosystem 7000, very well put!  I enjoy my Master Control Panel 5500 too, though it's not as cool as the Beolink 7000!

    As a side note, the SD card reader/writer is one thing I really like about the Beosound 4.  You can record from the radio, or any other source connected to it, such as the audio from something on TV.  Plus, it's a removable media.

     

     

  • 12-28-2010 9:09 AM In reply to

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    I was wondering if anyone could help me. I found a good deal on a 6500 but it is listed as junk on a Japanese auction site. So if the vocab is strange that will be my translation.

    They said that they tested but they are lacking a specialist cable to test it but it does up power up. What would that "specialist cable" be? Powerlink? It is a complete Beosystem and it is going cheap at the moment anyway. They did say the Beogram doesn't spin but I don't care about that. I would get it fixed in the future but my focus would be on the Beomaster and Beogram CD to start with.

    I am going to send him an e-mail and ask what this means. Can you think of anyother questions I should ask?

    I had Beogram 6500 about 4 years ago and a Beogram 7000 2 years ago but never actually used them together as I never owned them at the sametime. Sorry for the noob stuff?

    Beosystem 7000/6500- Beolab 4000 - Beosound 1 - A8 - Earset 3 - Beo4

  • 12-28-2010 11:17 AM In reply to

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    At a guess, they don't have any 2 pin DIN speaker plugs. Always assume, however, that "not tested" means broken!

  • 12-28-2010 11:27 AM In reply to

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    Yeah I am going on the fact that its broken. I asked them what cable they were missing and if all the units power up. And if the CD tray ejects. It seems risky but it is at 150 for the complete system. A beogram is 400 alone here if you can find one. Importing is expensive shipping wise. Are there any common problems with the Beomasters and Beograms?

    Beosystem 7000/6500- Beolab 4000 - Beosound 1 - A8 - Earset 3 - Beo4

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