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  • 10-05-2010 7:50 PM

    • Relaximus
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    Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    Would anyone know if the platter from a TX2 or RX2 is a direct replacement for the 3300?  The previous owner (apparently) tried to clean mine and managed to remove a bit of the lacquer.  The platters on those 2 look identical to mine and those models are certainly easier to find than a 3300.

     

    Cheers!

    Dave

    New to B&O, but am now hooked!

    Beogram 3300 & RX2 - Consoles: '56 Fisher Custom Futura & '63 Custom Electra - '58, 2 x '61 & '63 Motorola's - '61 Grundig;  Assorted newer, silver-faced stuff

  • 10-05-2010 9:08 PM In reply to

    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    Relaximus:
    RX2 is a direct replacement for the 3300?

    I can tell you tomorrow when I am next to them sitting side by side! Big Smile

    Welcome to BeoWorld, BTW!

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  • 10-05-2010 9:19 PM In reply to

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    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    Thanks Jaff!

     

    BTW:  Where in the SE are you located?  I'm currently living in CT, but grew up in VA and I really miss it!

     

    Dave

    New to B&O, but am now hooked!

    Beogram 3300 & RX2 - Consoles: '56 Fisher Custom Futura & '63 Custom Electra - '58, 2 x '61 & '63 Motorola's - '61 Grundig;  Assorted newer, silver-faced stuff

  • 10-06-2010 3:13 AM In reply to

    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    The platter from a TX2 is identical mechanically to your 3300. It may be polished rather than matt/brushed but that doesn't matter.

    I have never had a RX2 so not qualified to pass comment.

    Do not clean the turntable from these record decks. The laquer/paint does not survive and there is no easy way back!!

    Regards Graham

  • 10-06-2010 8:43 AM In reply to

    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    Relaximus:
    BTW:  Where in the SE are you located?

    Split time between SC/GA presently... I will have you an answer this evening on the platters!

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  • 10-06-2010 8:55 PM In reply to

    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    Sorry for delay... Wanted to get my eyes on them! Answer in the morning!
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  • 10-07-2010 9:49 AM In reply to

    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    OK... as [JBG] pointed out above...

    1.) Physically: identical

    2.) Cosmetically: RX2 has a duller (matte) finish -very "granular." 3300 has a brighter (plate) finish.

    3.) Graphics: identical, but the 3300's banded sections of the striping is more pronounced.

    Frankly, I like the RX2 platter better -seems to suit the surround and it appears to hold up much better than the 3300's more "delicate" finish.

    Also, from your OP... The TX2 matches the RX2.

    One other quick note -I found it interesting that apparently the early RX2's had (confirmed) a completely different platter... the "circular" style as can be seen in the product pages here.

    If you'd like, I can snap some pics tonight.

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  • 10-07-2010 9:56 AM In reply to

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    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    Wow, thanks Jaff!  Yes, some comparative pics would be very nice.  Now, I just need to find an unmolested TX2/RX2 platter.

     

    New to B&O, but am now hooked!

    Beogram 3300 & RX2 - Consoles: '56 Fisher Custom Futura & '63 Custom Electra - '58, 2 x '61 & '63 Motorola's - '61 Grundig;  Assorted newer, silver-faced stuff

  • 10-07-2010 1:12 PM In reply to

    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    Dummy me just realized I have a pIePhone in my pocket!

    The 3300 is on the LEFT / RX2 on the RIGHT. The differences are more apparent in person.

    You may be able to tell that the smoother finish on the 3300 reflects much more light!


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  • 10-07-2010 1:48 PM In reply to

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    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    Thanks for that pic!  And I agree, the RX2's platter looks as though it might actually match the 3300's top-plate better.  Now, to find one!

     

    Cheers!

    Dave

    New to B&O, but am now hooked!

    Beogram 3300 & RX2 - Consoles: '56 Fisher Custom Futura & '63 Custom Electra - '58, 2 x '61 & '63 Motorola's - '61 Grundig;  Assorted newer, silver-faced stuff

  • 10-07-2010 2:45 PM In reply to

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    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    Other than the platters already mentioned, other Beograms which share the same profile & radial markings are :-

    BG3000 (the 1980's tangential one) 3500, 4500, 6500, 7000 & 9000.

    Any of these will match perfectly well but do differ slighly in the finish on the lacquer coating.

    Chris.

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  • 10-07-2010 3:35 PM In reply to

    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    Hehe, what about the 5005, 5500 and 8500? Smile

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  • 10-07-2010 5:21 PM In reply to

    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    -AND the 9500...Smile

    But -I have never seen an RX with the same platter as the Tangential-models. Huh?

  • 10-07-2010 6:29 PM In reply to

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    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    Hmm ...

    TX2

    RX2

     

    Dave

    New to B&O, but am now hooked!

    Beogram 3300 & RX2 - Consoles: '56 Fisher Custom Futura & '63 Custom Electra - '58, 2 x '61 & '63 Motorola's - '61 Grundig;  Assorted newer, silver-faced stuff

  • 10-10-2010 8:17 PM In reply to

    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    Hmm -Interesting, Dave. Did You buy the RX2 from new - or second hand..? I've been looking through my B&O catalogues and I have never seen this version. (I've acually owned an RX2 some years ago -not with this platter, of course). Wink
    IF you have bought it second hand, the previous owner could have changed the platter...Or maybe B&O -at the end of the radial era -decided to change the platter so they only had to produce one type. Hmm

  • 10-11-2010 9:34 AM In reply to

    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    This is a bit confusing... as far as I am aware:

    The RX only had the early "circular" style platter.

    The RX2 had both the early "circular" AND the later "spoke" style platter.

    Apparently, there was a running change during production. I have seen far more RX2's w/ the later platter.

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  • 10-11-2010 1:53 PM In reply to

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    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    Steffen:

     

    The RX2 was purchased from its original owner and I seriously doubt that he had the wherewithall to change the platter.

     

    Regarding the 3300, does anyone know just how many of these were produced?  I rarely see them for sale on ebay or elsewhere, at least here in the States.  From what I can tell, it is virtually identical to the TX2 other than the cosmetics and the controls on the dustcover (which I love!).  Is this thing as rare as it seems to be?  I actually prefer the looks of it to the TX2.

     

    Dave

    New to B&O, but am now hooked!

    Beogram 3300 & RX2 - Consoles: '56 Fisher Custom Futura & '63 Custom Electra - '58, 2 x '61 & '63 Motorola's - '61 Grundig;  Assorted newer, silver-faced stuff

  • 10-11-2010 3:47 PM In reply to

    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    Relaximus:
    Regarding the 3300, does anyone know just how many of these were produced?  I rarely see them for sale on ebay or elsewhere, at least here in the States.  From what I can tell, it is virtually identical to the TX2 other than the cosmetics and the controls on the dustcover (which I love!).  Is this thing as rare as it seems to be?

    Well, that is an interesting observation.

    They do seem to be a bit rarer than the TX2 and there are probably several reasons for that, IMHO -of course!

    Not knowing production numbers, the 3300 was typically sold as a component in the BS3300 -a BS that had love it or hate it styling, though the BG was the most conventional of the components. In general, I don't think that this particular BS was hugely popular and may not have sold well. Also, at that time turntables were on the way out of favor for CD's. A lot of buyers may not have spec'd a BG when buying the BS3300.

    The peer BG's available at the time were also matched to their respective BeoSystems (the stacks) and used Datalink. I am sure these greatly outsold the BS3300. The oddball might have been the BG9000 designed to pair up with a BC9x00 but it also used Datalink.

    So, someone walking in off the street looking for just a table and no other kit would likely have gravitated to the TX2 and I believe it was marketed as just that. It did not have Datalink (though the product pages here suggest it did). It had RCA connectors in place of the typical DIN and could be plugged up to any off-brand amp without any adapters. Based on the numbers you see for sale today, they must have been a top seller... at the very least -in much greater numbers than the 3300.

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  • 10-11-2010 4:19 PM In reply to

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    Re: Beogram 3300 Platter Compatibilty

    Jaff:

     

    I certainly agree with your observations.  It would seem that the 3300 was very much the "Red-Headed Step-Child" of the line of the time.  The styling was somewhat polarizing and went against the grain of B&O's ideology of that time.  It seems that it was, almost, a last-minute stylistic excercise to meet an unneeded goal.  For me, the slanted dust-cover and thinned-front plinth are timeless.  Mine has the B&O supplied DIN-toRCA adapter, although, I'd like to replace them with interconnects that are somewhat more up-to-date.  Needless to say, I absolutely love this deck!

     

    Dave

    New to B&O, but am now hooked!

    Beogram 3300 & RX2 - Consoles: '56 Fisher Custom Futura & '63 Custom Electra - '58, 2 x '61 & '63 Motorola's - '61 Grundig;  Assorted newer, silver-faced stuff

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