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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 10-03-2010 7:25 AM by Step1. 19 replies.
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burantek
- Joined on 05-04-2007
- SE USA
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Re: Beolab 8000 "look alikes" from DK
R Patton: but they sure have copied the BL 8000's.
Good grief...
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Medogsfat
- Joined on 02-21-2007
- *Moderator* Leeds, Yorkshire
- Posts 4,045
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Re: Beolab 8000 "look alikes" from DK
I just love this quote from the description :-
"The technology is similar to the Beolab 8000 speakers, however they are not powered amp".
So the technology is not at all like the Beolab 8000's then? someone simply got a piece of tracing paper & laid it over some BL8000's & then drew their own version from it - except they couldn't be bothered with the meaningless bits like the amps....
Surely there's some copyright infringement going on here.
Chris.
The use of metaphors should be avoided like the plague. They're like a red rag to a bull to me.
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beocool
- Joined on 10-17-2007
- the Netherlands
- Posts 5,514
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Re: Beolab 8000 "look alikes" from DK
Medogsfat:
I just love this quote from the description :-
"The technology is similar to the Beolab 8000 speakers, however they are not powered amp".
Quote of the year so far. On a more serious note: I don't like someone who is violating copyrights!
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Dillen
- Joined on 02-14-2007
- Copenhagen / Denmark
- Posts 5,008
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Re: Beolab 8000 "look alikes" from DK
It says "Made in China" on the label.
Martin
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Daniel
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Svinarp, Sweden
- Posts 1,284
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Re: Beolab 8000 "look alikes" from DK
"The technology is similar to the Beolab 8000 speakers, however they are not powered amp".
Yes, both are "an electromechanical device which produces sound"
OMG, what a rip off! I'm sure they passed the legal line with this copy.
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Peter
- Joined on 02-12-2007
- Posts 9,572
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Re: Beolab 8000 "look alikes" from DK
Are these not the ones we have seen before - called the Rocket or something similar. The nature of these is that they will be appalling - a metal tube with car speakers in is always going to be a compromise and, without tailored amplifiers, likely to have all sorts of nasty resonances and no bass.
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Alex
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Bath & Cardiff, UK
- Posts 2,990
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Re: Beolab 8000 "look alikes" from DK
All metal casing? Have fun getting good thick mains cable into the binding posts without it shorting.
Unless of course they're made out of a plastic of some sort, which wouldn't surprise me looking at the pictures...
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Craig
- Joined on 03-29-2007
- Costa Del St Evenage
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Re: Beolab 8000 "look alikes" from DK
One for B&O's legal department I think.
Craig
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tournedos
- Joined on 12-08-2007
- Finland
- Posts 5,808
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Re: Beolab 8000 "look alikes" from DK
The shipping quote is very much B&O like... but at least the price is right at the moment!
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vikinger
- Joined on 04-16-2008
- Vestri Kirkjubyr, UK
- Posts 2,839
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Re: Beolab 8000 "look alikes" from DK
Presumably B&O will have difficulty pursuing a Chinese manufacturer over a copyright issue........ the Chinese have been notorious for tolerating copying of foreign products. Suprised that eBay allow the blatant references to B&O... but their past record is to do nothing unless the manufacturer actually complains.
The danger is that at some point someone will remove the logos and labels and try to pass them off as genuine.
Graham
I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure. [W C Fields]
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9 LEE
- Joined on 02-14-2007
- Moderator - UK
- Posts 5,223
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Re: Beolab 8000 "look alikes" from DK
Pretty shameless that one - i'm flabbergasted..
I ask myself though, did B&O miss a trick here?!! I wonder how many passive 8000's they'd sell if they ever went down that route. Just a thought.
Anyway - if i was B&O i'd crack open my best axe and go on the rampage.. these people need finding and suing !!!
Lee
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R Patton
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Kansas
- Posts 162
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Re: Beolab 8000 "look alikes" from DK
Anyway - if i was B&O i'd crack open my best axe and go on the rampage.. these people need finding and suing !!!
Well said Lee, I was rolling on the floor with that visual but I wonder if suing would be required after the axe rampage
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Daniel
- Joined on 04-17-2007
- Svinarp, Sweden
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Re: Beolab 8000 "look alikes" from DK
9 LEE:
I ask myself though, did B&O miss a trick here?!! I wonder how many passive 8000's they'd sell if they ever went down that route. Just a thought.
That's what I always said, they should have several different BeoVox. My brother loves the BL8000. He will never give up his HiFi with amplifier, CD-player, LP etc, but he can change the speakers. He even thought of getting BL8000 but rejected for he didn´t want to pay for the amplifiers in the speakers. But if there was BeoVox 8000 he would have bought them.
I'm convinced there is a big market for B&O as the world is dominated by passive speaker. And they have the knowledge and reputation to make very good passive speakers.
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BenSA
- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Durban, South Africa
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Re: Beolab 8000 "look alikes" from DK
Daniel:
9 LEE:
I ask myself though, did B&O miss a trick here?!! I wonder how many passive 8000's they'd sell if they ever went down that route. Just a thought.
That's what I always said, they should have several different BeoVox. My brother loves the BL8000. He will never give up his HiFi with amplifier, CD-player, LP etc, but he can change the speakers. He even thought of getting BL8000 but rejected for he didn´t want to pay for the amplifiers in the speakers. But if there was BeoVox 8000 he would have bought them.
I'm convinced there is a big market for B&O as the world is dominated by passive speaker. And they have the knowledge and reputation to make very good passive speakers.
Thats a very good point. They should venture into manufacturing passive speakers again except B&O like to have an amp to sell with passive speakers. I doubt they would sell passive speakers on their own. They have most definitely produced some awesome passive speakers in the past.
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Peter
- Joined on 02-12-2007
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Re: Beolab 8000 "look alikes" from DK
I think B&O have made their name with active speakers - the passive range were never heralded that much and I think this is with good reason. They did produce some speakers that were good - the ones that stand out are the S45-2 and the S120/MC120.2, but most of the rest are pretty average. The big speakers were good but so were lots of big speakers at the time - if you have a lot of speaker volume and good drivers and a modicum of good design, which B&O did, they should be good. Where B&O really started to stand out was when the produced the Penta and then the column speakers. The Penta solved the problem of poor bass by having lost of small units which worked to an extent, and the later speakers managed by tailoring the amplifiers to the speakers. If you look at the frequency response of the amplifiers in the Beolab 2500, you will see what I mean! Suddenly good sound could come from small packages and this was revolutionary. The advent of class D amplification as a viable method of amplifying speakers has also meant that this trend will continue. The ability to match amplifier and drive unit and have them in close proximity and not need large heatsinks is made for compact active speakers and ICE power. They can also use cheap drivers as they can tailor the amplifier to deal with any foibles.
The problem with passive speakers is that they have to have a flat frequency response - this is far trickier without the ability to match driver and amplifier.
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mediabobny
- Joined on 04-19-2007
- Greenwich Village, NYC
- Posts 336
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Re: Beolab 8000 "look alikes" from DK
For those who missed them the first time, they're baack..
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Step1
- Joined on 07-06-2008
- Manchester
- Posts 961
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Re: Beolab 8000 "look alikes" from DK
Why on earth would anyone want to grace their living room with such blatent rips offs? I would simply be embarrassed!
And what were they thiking with that butt-ugly sub
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