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  • 06-02-2010 5:04 PM In reply to

    • fishta
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    Re: Tomorrow comes the BeoSound 5 software update !

    This is most likely because the BeoSound 5 has not had a chance to do the MOTS calculations. Turn MOTS off and then try. It may solve this problem.

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  • 06-02-2010 5:09 PM In reply to

    Re: Tomorrow comes the BeoSound 5 software update !

    Puncher:

    Anyone who has one care to mark the update out of 10, in terms of solving your issues, misgivings of your BS/BM5?

    Are you asking us to rate the update on the basis of rumors?  The ability to turn of MOTS was something I really wanted.  Because they did everything in the release notes, B&O would probably get a 10.  I wanted Apple Lossless but they never announced they would do that.  Otherwise the Beosound 5 works as detailed in the specifications.

    Since I already own a Beosound 5, I guess I am satisfied for the time being.  I am not going to be an early adopter of new B&O products.  However I still like the brand. 

    Beosound 5 BL9 BC2 BL8000 Beovision 7 BL6002  BL11 

     

  • 06-02-2010 5:17 PM In reply to

    Re: Tomorrow comes the BeoSound 5 software update !

    I have MOTS turned off for the whole system.  Thanks

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  • 06-02-2010 5:32 PM In reply to

    Re: Tomorrow comes the BeoSound 5 software update !

    I was disappointed that the Apple Lossless & FLAC were not included in this update, but they're on the way. Soon from what I understand. As a dealer I rate this one around a 7 or 8 as it addresses nearly all the issues that I have found troubled my clients and potential buyers. With the inclusion of additional audio formats and the possible addition of a streaming service, I think we'll have pretty good product. 

    There is scarcely anything in this world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little more cheaply. The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey. - John Ruskin

  • 06-02-2010 6:28 PM In reply to

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    Re: Tomorrow comes the BeoSound 5 software update !

    TripEnglish:

    I was disappointed that the Apple Lossless & FLAC were not included in this update, but they're on the way. Soon from what I understand. As a dealer I rate this one around a 7 or 8 as it addresses nearly all the issues that I have found troubled my clients and potential buyers. With the inclusion of additional audio formats and the possible addition of a streaming service, I think we'll have pretty good product. 

    Seems fair enough. It's unfortunate (in my eyes at least) that they still haven't quite got there, with what folk wanted and have vocally asked for, this far down the line after release.

    Generally speaking, you aren't learning much if your lips are moving.

  • 06-02-2010 8:50 PM In reply to

    Re: Tomorrow comes the BeoSound 5 software update !

    I rate this a 4. It doesn't bring me closer to buying one. I like that they picked up on the christmas music issue and that would have bugged me but not as much as the missing gapless does.

    I just appreciate that they listen to customers complaining even though they don't pick up on my main issue. As long as that is not addressed I won't be buying any B&O digital music product.

    I can not believe that so many customers wish to access their TVs through the link system. To me this is a function that would become obsolete the 2nd there is a 2 way remote.  

    BS9000, BS2300, BC2, BL2500, BL3, Bl2, BS1, BV8, BC4, A8

  • 06-02-2010 9:41 PM In reply to

    Re: Tomorrow comes the BeoSound 5 software update !

    jk1002:

    I can not believe that so many customers wish to access their TVs through the link system. To me this is a function that would become obsolete the 2nd there is a 2 way remote.  

    It's as much for photos as anything else in my experience. Clients seem to love the photo capabilities. It's like boring your guests with vacation slides for the new millennium. I'm always surprised to find out just how many of my clients have loaded it with photos.

    There is scarcely anything in this world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little more cheaply. The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey. - John Ruskin

  • 06-03-2010 12:48 AM In reply to

    Re: Tomorrow comes the BeoSound 5 software update !

    For me the photo thing is really useable and all vacation pictures are in the BM5 and shown via the TV. Now with my new 10-46 it will be even more fun. The websurf functionality is also fun, I use it to show old TV-programs from the TV-stations website.

    Ingar

    Collector since 1996, BS5/BM5, BL3*4, BL11, BEO6, BV10-46, BL2000, MX4002, Beocom6000, Beotalk1200

  • 06-03-2010 3:22 AM In reply to

    • TWG
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    Re: Tomorrow comes the BeoSound 5 software update !

    Could anybody explain how the 2 new main functions work on the Beosund 5? 1. Having multiple BS5 in your Masterlink Setup: How do they behave, does a slave Beosound 5 in the bedroom show what's playing on the Beosound 5 master in the living room? 2. Masterlink-Gateway: What does the BS5 screen look like when you control lights etc.? thank you :-)

  • 06-03-2010 10:41 AM In reply to

    Re: Tomorrow comes the BeoSound 5 software update !

    the photo option is NOT new. The 5.03 was already capable to distribute photo and web to link TV.

    what is ment now is the "AV TV" command; to listen to the sound of the tv-set when BL are connected to the BS5.

     

    it's a step forward but stll a little bit disappointing!

    No flac

    When mots is disabbled the music stops after one selected track, album, artist, playlist

    hardly any control to choose albums, artist, etc. in a link room

     

     


  • 06-03-2010 2:04 PM In reply to

    • pf85
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    Re: Tomorrow comes the BeoSound 5 software update !

    My BM5 / BS5 update is running now all day already... not yet finished. Is the server infrastructure a bit weak in Struer to handle a few thousand updates ?

  • 06-03-2010 7:44 PM In reply to

    Re: Tomorrow comes the BeoSound 5 software update !

    jk1002:
    I rate this a 4. It doesn't bring me closer to buying one. I like that they picked up on the christmas music issue and that would have bugged me but not as much as the missing gapless does.

    I'd imagine missing gapless is mainly a codec issue.  Without liberal software fudging, barely any of the common lossy codecs support gapless playback.  To make it work, you need to do what iTunes does and scan each end of the track and work out how it might fit seamlessly.

    WMA Lossless supports it, as do a most of the other lossless codecs.  Unfortunately, as yet, the BS5 only supports WMA Lossless.

  • 06-03-2010 9:19 PM In reply to

    Re: Tomorrow comes the BeoSound 5 software update !

    >> Without liberal software fudging, barely any of the common lossy codecs support gapless playback<<

     

    I know that is is caused by the codec, I remember researching this when I switched from Sony Minidisc and Atrac to MP3/AAC and Ipod.

     

    Thing is, most players support that these days somehow so I wouldn't cause it a liberal software change but a common standard feature that they fail to support.

     

     

     

     

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  • 06-04-2010 2:25 AM In reply to

    Re: Tomorrow comes the BeoSound 5 software update !

    Windows Media Player doesn't support it (for MP3), and as far as I know that's the backend of BeoPlayer/BS5.

    In fact, unless you use something like LAME to encode with a certain tag set and a player that supports it, nothing can play MP3 gapless except iTunes.  All the solutions (DSP etc - including whatever iTunes uses) isn't perfect and you'll likely end up with some side-effects.  Wikipedia has a good article.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gapless_playback

    I'm sure they're working on something, but it's not likely to be easy.  I'd recommend ripping as Lossless, as it's better quality and supports it properly.  Hopefully more support than WMA Lossless will be added one day...

  • 06-04-2010 3:34 AM In reply to

    Re: Tomorrow comes the BeoSound 5 software update !

    Talking about gapless playback, I thought BS5 could do this, I can't believe that a EUR 5,000 machine can't handle this, when an Ipod Classic costing 20 times less can do it. Besides, even in the B&O family, my BeoSound 2 could play gapless, you heard the same 3 light"pops" at the end of each track, like with Itunes, but there were no gaps during MP3/WMA playback, and BS2 doesn't play lossless files.

    Lossless music per se is gapless, then comes the player limitations/specs, so B&O should have enough skills to find a solution, since they had it for BS2 (funny too, that my Serenata can't play gapless..Surprise).

    Going back to the BeoConnect software for PC, I'm confused: does it only work with BeoMaster 5? Or is it eventually going to replace BeoPlayer/BeoPort softwares?

     

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