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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 05-28-2010 8:56 PM by BeoTom. 18 replies.
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05-26-2010 3:41 PM
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moxxey


- Joined on 04-14-2007
- South West, UK
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Re: Beovision 7-40 update
Peter :
Now with 200Hz screen - though still cold cathode Fluorescent tube, not LED. Quite a variety of screens now available!!
So....the BV10-40/46 has a "better" screen than the more expensive BV7-40 MKV? How bizarre.
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Ehlerz



- Joined on 04-17-2007
- DK
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Re: Beovision 7-40 update
moxxey:
Peter :
Now with 200Hz screen - though still cold cathode Fluorescent tube, not LED. Quite a variety of screens now available!!
So....the BV10-40/46 has a "better" screen than the more expensive BV7-40 MKV? How bizarre.
IMO, the picture on the bv-7 is not matched by any other B&O television, LED or no LED, so what defines "Better Screen"?
BV7-40 MK IV, BL5´s, BL3´s, BL 3500, BL7-4, BS3000, BC 6-23, BV 1, BS3.
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moxxey


- Joined on 04-14-2007
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Re: Beovision 7-40 update
Technically better.
I've seen the BV10-46 next to a BV7-40 MKIV and the picture was sharper and more clean. The BV9 has a better picture, too.
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TripEnglish



- Joined on 10-27-2007
- America
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Re: Beovision 7-40 update
The BV7-40MKIV is vastly more capable than the BeoVision 8-40. The picture is night and day. We show the exact same source on all the TVs in my shop for exactly this reason. The difference is notable.
There is scarcely anything in this world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little more cheaply. The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey. - John Ruskin
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Seanie_230



- Joined on 04-20-2007
- Milton Keynes, England
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Re: Beovision 7-40 update
So my questions are:
Will the panning be vastly improved going from the 60Hz MKIII to the 200Hz MKV.
What other benefits does the MKV offer??
Beovision 7 MKIV (Blu Ray) Beolab 9 Beolab 6000 Beo 4 Beocenter 9300 Apple TV SKY HD Optoma HD65 Projector Lintronic TT455-RT-238 Beovision 3 MKII
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Hungedu



- Joined on 08-08-2009
- Ambergris Caye, Belize
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Re: Beovision 7-40 update
Guess I'll be buying a BV10-40 or wait for the next BV7-40.
CCFT is so 20th century.
BeoVision 7-55 3D, BeoSound 9000, BeoSound 8, BeoLab 7-6, BeoLab Penta III, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 6000, BeoLab 2, LC-1, BeoTime (analog clock), Form 1 headphones, Beo 4 remote.
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fishta


- Joined on 02-12-2009
- London
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Re: Beovision 7-40 update
I should be getting my MKV next week and will let you all know what the step up is like to the 200Hz.
All I can really say now though is that I am very excited about it!!
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BeoTom


- Joined on 02-09-2010
- Texas
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Re: Beovision 7-40 update
TripEnglish:
The BV7-40MKIV is vastly more capable than the BeoVision 8-40. The picture is night and day. We show the exact same source on all the TVs in my shop for exactly this reason. The difference is notable.
I would assume that probably has as much to do with the built in BS 3 as it does the screen itself. The BS 3 is IMHO an amazing processor! The BV8-40 also costs slightly less!
Trip: Does the US version of the BV 8-40 have a built in tuner, or is there no tuner like the 8-32? Have you compared the picture quality of the 8-40 against the BV 10-40 and BV 8-32. Just wondering how it compares against both of these.
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moxxey


- Joined on 04-14-2007
- South West, UK
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Re: Beovision 7-40 update
Seanie:
Will the panning be vastly improved going from the 60Hz MKIII to the 200Hz MKV.
There's a noticeable difference between my old MKIII and the latest MKIV. Probably not worth the expensive upgrade, but there's an improvement.
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TripEnglish



- Joined on 10-27-2007
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Re: Beovision 7-40 update
BeoTom:
TripEnglish:
The BV7-40MKIV is vastly more capable than the BeoVision 8-40. The picture is night and day. We show the exact same source on all the TVs in my shop for exactly this reason. The difference is notable.
I would assume that probably has as much to do with the built in BS 3 as it does the screen itself. The BS 3 is IMHO an amazing processor! The BV8-40 also costs slightly less!
Trip: Does the US version of the BV 8-40 have a built in tuner, or is there no tuner like the 8-32? Have you compared the picture quality of the 8-40 against the BV 10-40 and BV 8-32. Just wondering how it compares against both of these.
You're absolutely correct about the BeoSystem 3 doing the lion's share of the improvements. The native panel, when considering processing, is a minor link in the quality chain and processing as we've proved, can account for tremendous performance.
The US BV8-40 does not have a tuner and most televisions will not have one going forward. There is simply not enough use in the US to justify the incorporation. And I have compared the PQ on both and the BeoVision 8-40 is more capable in pulling detail out of blacks. The BeoVision 10 is noticeably weak on this one point, though stands out in every other respect in terms of edge lit LCDs.
That being said, for my money I'd rather be a BeoVision 10 owner than a BeoVision 8 owner. The minor deficiency in PQ is a small price to pay for such a beautiful machine. That's me speaking personally, though.
There is scarcely anything in this world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little more cheaply. The person who buys on price alone is this man's lawful prey. - John Ruskin
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darioazul


- Joined on 04-30-2007
- USA
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Re: Beovision 7-40 update
Dear Trip:
Would you please clarified if and when the BV 7 is going to see an upgrade? What's the upgrade? New processor? New screen? The current BV 7-40 is defected. B&O has agreed to replace it. I would to hold off and perhaps upgrade to an LED screen.
Regards,
Darioazul
When I hear music, I fear no danger.
I see no foe...
Thoreau
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Sigmund



- Joined on 06-20-2007
- Norway
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Re: Beovision 7-40 update
Me too. The lack of LED backlight is the fundamental reason that keeps me from buying one.
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Michael



- Joined on 05-20-2009
- Glen Waverley, Victoria, Australia
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Re: Beovision 7-40 update
BeoTom:I would assume that probably has as much to do with the built in BS 3 as it does the screen itself. The BS 3 is IMHO an amazing processor!
In fact, which TV's have the BS3 processor? As we all know it's not about the panel (whether sourced from Samsung, Sharp or whomever). It's all about the processor (Kuro, BS3, Viera, BE3).
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BeoTom


- Joined on 02-09-2010
- Texas
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Re: Beovision 7-40 update
TripEnglish:
You're absolutely correct about the BeoSystem 3 doing the lion's share of the improvements. The native panel, when considering processing, is a minor link in the quality chain and processing as we've proved, can account for tremendous performance.
The US BV8-40 does not have a tuner and most televisions will not have one going forward. There is simply not enough use in the US to justify the incorporation. And I have compared the PQ on both and the BeoVision 8-40 is more capable in pulling detail out of blacks. The BeoVision 10 is noticeably weak on this one point, though stands out in every other respect in terms of edge lit LCDs.
That being said, for my money I'd rather be a BeoVision 10 owner than a BeoVision 8 owner. The minor deficiency in PQ is a small price to pay for such a beautiful machine. That's me speaking personally, though.
Thanks for the feedback Trip, it is appreciated! That's kind of along the lines of what I was thinking, but I haven't had the chance to see a BV 8-40 yet.
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BeoTom


- Joined on 02-09-2010
- Texas
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Re: Beovision 7-40 update
Michael:
BeoTom:I would assume that probably has as much to do with the built in BS 3 as it does the screen itself. The BS 3 is IMHO an amazing processor!
In fact, which TV's have the BS3 processor? As we all know it's not about the panel (whether sourced from Samsung, Sharp or whomever). It's all about the processor (Kuro, BS3, Viera, BE3).
In the US, the BV 7 and BV 9 have the BS 3 built in. The actual separate BS 3 processor is designed to be used with the BV 4, though it is not built into the screen itself (the BV 4 103" may have it built, I'm not sure about that one). Other non B&O screens can be used with the BS 3 as well.
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