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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 01-27-2010 4:25 AM by bayerische. 23 replies.
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01-25-2010 8:35 AM
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tournedos


- Joined on 12-08-2007
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B&O half year financial report
Just from the ovens:
Interim
report for the period 1 June - 30 November 2009 for Bang & Olufsen
a/s
Main points:
- turnover down to DKK 1,234 m from last year's 1,533 m
- result before tax -100 m against -210 m of last year
- order book significantly up
- BV10-40 has been a success, so BV10-46 will be launched before the end of the financial year (i.e in six months)
- which, on the other hand, means that the new audio system, whatever that is, will be postponed later than that
- increasing turnover and a positive result expected for the second half of the financial year
The stock market isn't initially too happy, but we'll see how it develops...
Apparently there will be a webcast in 20 minutes.
(Yes, I just edited 10-55 to 10-46. My typo.)
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jk1002


- Joined on 04-16-2007
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Re: B&O half year financial report
The delay in the audio system is a bummer even though it probably won't be for me.
I don't see how that goes along with increasing the speed of product development .... it feels to me that so far not much came out of that.
JK
BS9000, BS2300, BC2, BL2500, BL3, Bl2, BS1, BV8, BC4, A8
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dilznik


- Joined on 09-19-2007
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Re: B&O half year financial report
tournedos:
- turnover down to DKK 1,234 m from last year's 1,533 m
- result before tax -100 m against -210 m of last year
Soooooo... they've sold less but have greatly reduced their losses?
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elephant



- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Melbourne, Australia
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Re: B&O half year financial report
tournedos:Apparently there will be a webcast in 20 minutes.
From the B&O web site ...
To see the webcast your computer has to support the Windows Media 9 file format. Information on how to install and test Windows Media Player 9.
Why oh why not use something that is useable by non-Windows people ? And here I include all the Linux etc people of the world !
First B&O (1976) was a Beogram 1500 ... latest (2011) change has been to couple the BL11 with the BL6Ks *sounds superb*
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elephant



- Joined on 04-16-2007
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Re: B&O half year financial report
dilznik:
tournedos:
- turnover down to DKK 1,234 m from last year's 1,533 m
- result before tax -100 m against -210 m of last year
Soooooo... they've sold less but have greatly reduced their losses?
Not an unusual financial state of affairs :-(
Helps to highlight where the cost issue lies
First B&O (1976) was a Beogram 1500 ... latest (2011) change has been to couple the BL11 with the BL6Ks *sounds superb*
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tournedos


- Joined on 12-08-2007
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Re: B&O half year financial report
dilznik:
tournedos:
- turnover down to DKK 1,234 m from last year's 1,533 m
- result before tax -100 m against -210 m of last year
Soooooo... they've sold less but have greatly reduced their losses?
Well, being an industry is a lot more than selling stuff. Apparently result of the cost reductions that were announced ages ago.
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elephant



- Joined on 04-16-2007
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Re: B&O half year financial report
tournedos:
dilznik:
tournedos:
- turnover down to DKK 1,234 m from last year's 1,533 m
- result before tax -100 m against -210 m of last year
Soooooo... they've sold less but have greatly reduced their losses?
Well, being an industry is a lot more than selling stuff. Apparently result of the cost reductions that were announced ages ago.
Yes, if you examine the balance sheet you can see they closed under performing B1 stores, reduced their debt, increased their cash holdings (I hope they get a better interest rate than I do), increased the performance of the automative division, and I think reduced their inventory and factory floor space costs
First B&O (1976) was a Beogram 1500 ... latest (2011) change has been to couple the BL11 with the BL6Ks *sounds superb*
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joeyboygolf



- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Ely, Cambridgeshire, UK
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Re: B&O half year financial report
elephant:
tournedos:Apparently there will be a webcast in 20 minutes.
From the B&O web site ...
To see the webcast your computer has to support the Windows Media 9 file format. Information on how to install and test Windows Media Player 9.
Why oh why not use something that is useable by non-Windows people ? And here I include all the Linux etc people of the world !
You didn't miss much as most of the questions were avoided by 3 people who were way out of their comfort zone!
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elephant



- Joined on 04-16-2007
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Re: B&O half year financial report
joeyboygolf:
elephant:
tournedos:Apparently there will be a webcast in 20 minutes.
From the B&O web site ...
To see the webcast your computer has to support the Windows Media 9 file format. Information on how to install and test Windows Media Player 9.
Why oh why not use something that is useable by non-Windows people ? And here I include all the Linux etc people of the world !
You didn't miss much as most of the questions were avoided by 3 people who were way out of their comfort zone!
I have downloaded it using SWMBO's HP and I am currently converting it to Apple format 
I might even post the slides that accompany the webcast . . . . .
First B&O (1976) was a Beogram 1500 ... latest (2011) change has been to couple the BL11 with the BL6Ks *sounds superb*
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tournedos


- Joined on 12-08-2007
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Re: B&O half year financial report
joeyboygolf:
You didn't miss much as most of the questions were avoided by 3 people who were way out of their comfort zone!
Yeah, it was a bit funny at times
But not all of the questions were that great, either. Like the last guy going on an on about a figure on the report that he couldn't understand... what are the chances of an actual error in a financial report? Or the other one demaning info on Christmas sales when they obviously cannot and won't comment on that for a report ending on November. The time spent on these could've been used for something interesting.
Sound quality was excellent, though!
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dilznik


- Joined on 09-19-2007
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Re: B&O half year financial report
tournedos:
Well, being an industry is a lot more than selling stuff. Apparently result of the cost reductions that were announced ages ago.
Like moving the production of half their stuff to the Czech Republic, not telling anyone, and not reducing the prices at all?
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Daniel


- Joined on 04-17-2007
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Re: B&O half year financial report
dilznik:
and not reducing the prices at all?
Or maybe, not increasing the prices.
Beovision LX5500, BeoCord V6000, BeoSound 9000, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 3500, BeoLab 2000, BeoVox1, BeoCom 6000, Form1, LightControl 1
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dilznik


- Joined on 09-19-2007
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Re: B&O half year financial report
Daniel:
Or maybe, not increasing the prices.
Have you seen the other threads? Can you imagine how people would flip out if there was a cost increase on BL9, and they bought it, and then they found out it was made in CZ and not DK? There would be riots. Or whatever angry rich people do =)
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Daniel


- Joined on 04-17-2007
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Re: B&O half year financial report
dilznik:
Daniel:
Or maybe, not increasing the prices.
Have you seen the other threads? Can you imagine how people would flip out if there was a cost increase on BL9, and they bought it, and then they found out it was made in CZ and not DK? There would be riots. Or whatever angry rich people do =)
My point is that instead of keeping the production in Denmark with an price increase to be able to get a profit they moved the production to the Chech Republic to get a profit with remaing price level.
Beovision LX5500, BeoCord V6000, BeoSound 9000, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 3500, BeoLab 2000, BeoVox1, BeoCom 6000, Form1, LightControl 1
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tournedos


- Joined on 12-08-2007
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Re: B&O half year financial report
Daniel:
I've seen plenty of doubles, but... did you let your pet octopus click on "post"? 
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Daniel


- Joined on 04-17-2007
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Re: B&O half year financial report
Must stop drinking at work! 
Hate when this happens. In the middle of the typing I get one post for ever word in the post. 
I was looking forward to my 888th post, missed that one.
Beovision LX5500, BeoCord V6000, BeoSound 9000, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 3500, BeoLab 2000, BeoVox1, BeoCom 6000, Form1, LightControl 1
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bayerische


- Joined on 12-11-2007
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Re: B&O half year financial report
Daniel:
Must stop drinking at work! 
Hate when this happens. In the middle of the typing I get one post for ever word in the post. 
I was looking forward to my 888th post, missed that one.
Trying to get your post count up again, Daniel!? 
-Andreas
BLab5, BLab5000, BLab8000, BV10, BS9000, BS3, Beo5, Beo4, BLink1000, BLink5000, BLink7000, A2, A8, Form2
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vikinger


- Joined on 04-16-2008
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Re: B&O half year financial report
The markets did not like this report.
B&O shares have dropped from 85kr to 70.5kr since Monday.
Graham
I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure. [W C Fields]
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bayerische


- Joined on 12-11-2007
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Re: B&O half year financial report
vikinger:
The markets did not like this report.
B&O shares have dropped from 85kr to 70.5kr since Monday.
Graham
Better off putting money in Apples. 
-Andreas
BLab5, BLab5000, BLab8000, BV10, BS9000, BS3, Beo5, Beo4, BLink1000, BLink5000, BLink7000, A2, A8, Form2
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vikinger


- Joined on 04-16-2008
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Re: B&O half year financial report
bayerische:
vikinger:
The markets did not like this report.
B&O shares have dropped from 85kr to 70.5kr since Monday.
Graham
Better off putting money in Apples. 
Got the Apples covered! Hope they don't ripen prematurely. 
I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure. [W C Fields]
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XavierItzmann


- Joined on 01-24-2009
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Re: B&O half year financial report
elephant:
Here you are fellow Apple fans :)
Most considerate of you to those of us who prefer B&O and Apple, and feel a bit abandoned by B&O which insists on mostly ignoring Apple users.
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bayerische


- Joined on 12-11-2007
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Re: B&O half year financial report
vikinger:
bayerische:
vikinger:
The markets did not like this report.
B&O shares have dropped from 85kr to 70.5kr since Monday.
Graham
Better off putting money in Apples. 
Got the Apples covered! Hope they don't ripen prematurely. 
Just like Forrest Gump. "Fruit company".
-Andreas
BLab5, BLab5000, BLab8000, BV10, BS9000, BS3, Beo5, Beo4, BLink1000, BLink5000, BLink7000, A2, A8, Form2
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