http://beophile.com/

Take a look!

Mmmm. Fair play to the effort, but having a quick look around I couldn't find a sausage about the people behind the site as it was all written in a detached third person form. Anyone know who is behind this (dare I ask!)??

OK - but what's new? - I don't really see the point or the need.

....and a lot of copying and pasting presumably. Check out the review I wrote for the Beolit 800 for this site, and the one on the other site. Not word for word I grant you, but every single point made in their review follows the points in the same order as I set out in my review.

Could we find out who it is so I can bill them please?

j0hnbarker:

....and a lot of copying and pasting presumably. Check out the review I wrote for the Beolit 800 for this site, and the one on the other site. Not word for word I grant you, but every single point made in their review follows the points in the same order as I set out in my review.

Could we find out who it is so I can bill them please?

Funnily enough I'd just checked out a section on "Datalink" - pretty much a rewrite of the passage in BeoTech.

I think I could guess at the owner.

Puncher:

I think I could guess at the owner.

Cheeky blighter - maybe they could bung me a used (ahem, pre-loved) BV5 as compo?? Where there's blame there's a claim and all...

I think, from the links and the absence of any links to the UK's pre-owned market companies, that a Dutch trader may have been behind this effort.  Good luck to them, there is no reason why not to applaud there efforts, Beoworld may not appeal to them and vice versa in some instances. 

Puncher:

j0hnbarker:

....and a lot of copying and pasting presumably. Check out the review I wrote for the Beolit 800 for this site, and the one on the other site. Not word for word I grant you, but every single point made in their review follows the points in the same order as I set out in my review.

Could we find out who it is so I can bill them please?

 

Funnily enough I'd just checked out a section on "Datalink" - pretty much a rewrite of the passage in BeoTech.

I think I could guess at the owner.

Who do you think it could be?  You are not pointing the finger at morethanAV's way surely?  Eduard?  The Rt. Hon. Steve James?

I think it doesn't meter who is behind this ( I was try to find it also ), it is good to have one more source ...

Whoever is behind this one thing is for sure, he/she put great efort to do it and I'm respect that !

I think soon will be link called FORUM on this site.

But I will never be a member

nmartin771:

I think it doesn't meter who is behind this ( I was try to find it also ), it is good to have one more source ...

Whoever is behind this one thing is for sure, he/she put great efort to do it and I'm respect that !

I think soon will be link called FORUM on this site.

But I will never be a member

I'm not sure plagiarising original work counts as something that should be respected Martin....my article took me a long time to write and I made sure I did my homework. I for one am more than a little miffed

j0hnbarker:

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I'm not sure plagiarising original work counts as something that should be respected Martin....my article took me a long time to write and I made sure I did my homework. I for one am more than a little miffed

Have you contacted them John?  There is a bit on the site about anyone objecting to having their work ripped off can apply to have it removed.

You are right to feel miffed if your work has been nicked without permission, but at least if they remove it goes some way to redressing things.

A new site would get more favour from Beoworlders and other B&O fans if they asked for contributors, not just took their work...

John I was talking about whole project.

I'm sure that is not all copy-paste.

I remember on university when someone did the same and re write my whole project, at first I was really mad, but on second thought I was happy .... why ... if someone plagiarising your work it only means that your work is good !

All great designers, writers, architect were been plagiarisig by someone.

Your work is good and you don't need to worry.

I hope you understand me.

I never report guy who rewrite my work, he got highest degree, and he graduated ... I feel sorry for him ....

And I'm happy because my work got second highest degree

Why am I not surprised?

I know who is behind it. He's not Dutch, but an English person living in France.

Nothing changes...  in more ways than one.

Lee

9 LEE:

I know who is behind it. He's not Dutch, but an English person living in France.

Nothing changes...  in more ways than one.

Lee

If you're 100% sure Lee I have no probs with him as a person. A shame that there's any bad feeling between B&O lovers, but I guess that's what goes with the territory :( 

I agree that it looks very much like Steve and there is a french member on the dying Yahoo group Beolist announcing it
in extremely positive words, but I'm not sure;

This page http://www.aboutus.org/BeOpHile.com gives the owner as Enom Inc.
A little google work brings up this page full of interesting reading, if it is indeed Steve behind this, he's ended up in bad company
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/256/RipOff0256553.htm
Speaks for itself, same goes for those related domain names ...

Hmm...
Sorry but 

Martin

Dillen:

This page http://www.aboutus.org/BeOpHile.com gives the owner as Enom Inc.
A little google work brings up this page full of interesting reading, if it is indeed Steve behind this, he's ended up in bad company
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/256/RipOff0256553.htm
Speaks for itself, same goes for those related domain names ...

These aren't really related - Enom is just another domain registrar, which allows for privacy proxy i.e hides the real registrant from the whois information.

As to the site, I don't know... I'll probably follow it, but I hope they (he) won't embarrass themselves by trying to set up a forum.

Am I missing something?

Apart from the plagerism of members' articles, surely we should all be happy that there's another B&O resource online?

I have no problem with someone setting up another B&O fan site, but I am left confused by the whole thing.

When people  set up fan sites (of whatever type) they are usually very keen to say who they are and why they created the site.

Setting a site up and going to great lengths to avoid stating who you are and where you come from (to the point of hiding domain registration information) seems a little perverse to me to the extent  I am not really sure what the point of the site is.

Simon

Be careful when going to www.beophile.com as you may find your PC has picked up some "datamining" spyware without you knowing it.

Most anti-spyware software will not pick these up on the fly, so you have to run a PC scan to remove them with products such as AVG or PC doctor or similar.

The following data mining spyware may find itself installed on your PC normally via a cookie

Aldmt

Serving-sys

Doubleclick

Tradedoubler

Mediaplex

You must do an actual scan to pick them up, AVG version 8.0 and above has anti-spyware detection, but cannot pick it up "on the fly" i.e. in normal running mode.

So, if you have been to the site, run the scan which depending on how much you have on your PC could take a long time.

Chris.

k984942:

Am I missing something?

Apart from the plagerism of members' articles, surely we should all be happy that there's another B&O resource online?

 

I agree, I think it's good with more beo-sites.

Regarding your first question: Steve, who according to some is the man behind the new site (and I think they're right, it looks lika a Steve-site), was the creator and owner of "old" Beoworld.

Boring, nothing new to me and I daresay that any news posted on Beoworld will be posted almost immediately on there.... and claim to be a leading and... argh cant be bothered.

Surely as the genesis of Beoworld was the brainchild of Steve James and it is his early work and ownership that this site greatly benefits from - if the rumours are true and he is behind this site then it should be applauded.  There is nothing controversial on there, are you suggesting that all on Beoworld is totally original and down to the new owner and the Moderators?  I think not.

KingOfSnake:

Surely as the genesis of Beoworld was the brainchild of Steve James and it is his early work and ownership that this site greatly benefits from - if the rumours are true and he is behind this site then it should be applauded.  There is nothing controversial on there, are you suggesting that all on Beoworld is totally original and down to the new owner and the Moderators?  I think not.

On the other hand, he sold the site, presumably along with the copyright to all that was within. To do some superficial rewrites and resurrect the site he sold is not only pointless but also very bad form, maybe even in direct contradiction of the terms of the sale to which he agreed.

The choice to sell and give up his "brainchild" was his - he did, end of story! I don't see what he hopes to achieve from this new site, other than mischief.

I for one won't be supporting it.

Although it is said there is nothing wrong with this, what about from an ethical point of view?

Selling a site, then stealing the content of that site to start another site of the same ilk sounds dodgy to me...